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Has periodic limb Movement Disorder in sleep - is xtandi ok to start

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Dad , 83 , has periodic limb movement disorder ( PLMD ) , during the time when he is going to sleep. Once fully asleep it does not happen.

he is supposed to start xtandi next week. At 40 mg to start with and then after a few days has to increase to 80 gm.

I was wondering if xtandi would be a wise choice with the Plmd issue as I read xtandi can exacerbate neurological stuff ??

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Tinkudi

Meaning ? Why would I joke Allen.

Please can you guide me on this

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Tall_Allen in reply toTinkudi

Sorry, I deleted my comment. It just never occurs to me that someone might worry about restless limbs during sleep from a drug delaying death from a disease.

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Tinkudi in reply toTall_Allen

Thanks Allen 🙏🏻

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janebob99 in reply toTall_Allen

It's a terrible disorder. Very painful, like the pain from opiate withdrawals, but not as bad as that.

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Tinkudi in reply tojanebob99

Dad does not have any pain at all from plmd. He only gets it when going to sleep and is not also aware of it.

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janebob99 in reply toTinkudi

He's lucky, then. Mine happens just as I'm falling asleep.

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Tinkudi in reply tojanebob99

Do you take xtandi ?

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janebob99 in reply toTinkudi

No, I don't.

I'm going to start Orgovyx in a couple of weeks, and I have been taking Dutasteride to reduce my DHT levels. I also take estradiol for good bone health and to reduce future hot flashes when I start Orgovyx.

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lcfcpolo

Your Dad is starting on the smallest possible dose of Xtandi, so hopefully he can tolerate and move up to 80 mg. Even 80 is only half the usual dose of 160 mg. I think the oncologist is being cautious. If your Dad does get any side effects then Darolutamide maybe a good alternative as from what I understand it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier. Good luck to your Dad and your family.

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Tinkudi in reply tolcfcpolo

Thank you. Good luck to you too 😊🙏🏻 Was reading your bio. You did not do chemo ? Have been asking the MO’s if dad can get triple therapy but they prefer doublet they say for him

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lcfcpolo in reply toTinkudi

When I was diagnosed in May 2020 triplet was not a option for newly diagnosed. Infact the reason I was given Enzalutamide (Xtandi) was only because during COVID they did not want to start me on chemotherapy incase patients became immunosuppressed. I have responded well to Xtandi 🙏. It is really difficult to know what to do. Maybe go for a second opinion?. A friend in my prostate cancer support group in the UK aged 81 started on Xtandi like me and then did x10 Docetaxel chemotherapy treatments after Xtandi stopped working.

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Tinkudi in reply tolcfcpolo

Tall Allen says chemo must be done relatively early on for it to be fully effective as later cells go into senescence or something.

What is your experience with Xtandi

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lcfcpolo in reply toTinkudi

My experience on 160 mg is good. Some days I am lethargic in the morning first thing but ok once I get up and going.

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Tinkudi in reply tolcfcpolo

What is this care oncology protocol. Does that work well ?

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lcfcpolo

The care oncology clinic is a private clinic in London. You can Google them. I also believe they are based in the USA and that they ship. I have no idea if it works but I threw it into the mix. It consists of daily Metformin, Atorvastatin and alternatively between Mebendazole and Doxycycline. I have recently stopped the Doxycycline due to photosensitive response. You have to pay every 12 weeks. Even the clinic doesn't really know if the protocol actually works. The following is copied from the website:The COC Protocol is a specific combination of conventional pharmaceuticals which may work together to restrict the overall ability of cancer cells to take up and use (i.e., ‘metabolise’) energy. The addition of non-cytotoxic agents with well-established safety profiles seeks to impede the prospects of cancer cell survival, especially in a hostile environment, such as during standard-of-care chemotherapy, radiotherapy, immunotherapy and hormone therapy.

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Tinkudi in reply tolcfcpolo

They recommend this for all cancers.?

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lcfcpolo in reply toTinkudi

No idea if any cancers are excluded but they do prescribe for my advanced prostate cancer.

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Tinkudi in reply tolcfcpolo

I sent you a DM. Did you get it

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janebob99

I have restless leg syndrome. My Dad had it, too. It may be due to a magnesium deficiency. I take Ropineral (Requip) , which works greatl.

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