Hi all,
My dad was recently diagnosed with advanced metastatic prostate cancer with Gleason 4+5. We are trying to do everything possible to help him including switching to a Mediterranean diet. His doctor advised him to take a calcium and D3 supplement, as well as a men’s multivitamin.
I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on a good multivitamin for men with PC? I’m worried about the multivitamin counteracting against the zoladex injection.
Thank you
Be careful about multivitamins. They may contain too-large doses of Vitamin E, or biotin that may interfere with PSA tests.
Good morning TA! Hope you are well. What is the correlation between Biotin and PSA?
It may interfere with test results.
Avoid calcium supplements and large amounts of B12 but eat foods that have calcium and magnesium. If one wants bones like chalk eat foods with calcium. A doctor of naturopathy said, "If one wants bones like ivory eat foods with calcium and magnesium". Bromelain, black pepper and a piperine supp can help with absorption as well as a high quality olive oil.
Currumpaw
Bones like chalk? That's bad? Or did you say two different things about calcium?
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How Magnesium Supports Bone Health - Dr Carolyn Dean MD ND
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Wishing you the very best!
Currumpaw
My confusion is that I think of "bones like chalk" to be a bad thing (based upon a line in Spartacus), whereas I was unfamiliar with bones like ivory (but seemed sturdier, stronger). But I understand that calcium and magnesium and K2 are supposedly good for bones. Thanks for the links.
I take D3 and Calcium every day at my doctor’s request. I don’t take any vitamins and my doctor says B12 pills are mostly passed right through the body. Instead I eat spinach and other healthy foods to get the best effect. Unlike almost everyone on my forums has modified their diet. I have done very little different, including still enjoying sweets and other junk food pretty much as I did before being diagnosed stage 4, inoperable, in December 2009. Good luck with your treatments. Always remember that a positive attitude can lead to as much as 20% better results for treatments.
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Currumpaw
Don’t take a multivitamin, they can actually feed prostate cancer especially if they contain vitamin E and B12. Stick with a healthy diet.
Ed
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Currumpaw
...this is the 2d post for this same subject...all is never lost, just done give up. Rick
I had pattern 5 noted at the margins of my EPE so I went looking for a study that was predictive of pattern 5 and found this...if the worst case there is a 67% survival from PCSM, 10 years from surgery, so the picture is not as bleak as it would appear...the 'p' factor (the chance that this outcome is wrong) is 0.4%!
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The study also talks about the use of Dechipher testing and its importance...I have stressed in these posts why I think its so critical...take a look at my posts; there are several that talk about this test. If your Dad has not had it done you can still do the test as the hospital keeps biopsy specimens on file for years...get one if you dont have one. GS is the type of cancer and Decipher will tell you how lethan the cell type is...you can have a GS of 4+5 and yet have a less lethal grade of cancer...
Last, look at some other predictors for GS 4+5 that are noted...hope this helps. Trust that many predictors of survival, as your Dr may state, are based on you being a 'deer in the headlights;' doing nothing! Once you start to push back on this thing the algorithims change...dont ever, ever, ever give up...AND always get 2d, 3d, 4th opinions before you act! Rick
Rather than worrying about one or two vitamins/supplements, I recommend that you work with a competent Naturopath who can put together a comprehensive supplement/multivitamin plan designed specifically for your Father. I wish you and your Dad the best on this journey!
Suggestion. Before you take any supplement, discuss with your medical oncologist.
Gourd Dancer
As a German doctor would tell you: Vit - A - Min.... (Wait - A - Minute)................stretching it huh?
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Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.
j-o-h-n Saturday 04/08/2023 10:59 PM DST
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In 2018 Johns Hopkins reported that multivitamins are not helpful.
Vitamin D, vitamin K, and magnesium appear to be very useful, not in high doses! according to other sources.
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