Breaking bones

[spencoid2]

When I pee I lean my head against the wall behind the toilet to stabilize myself. I did this in an unfamiliar bathroom and hit my sternum against a shelf pretty hard but not that hard. I think I cracked my sternum because it is quite painful. Have been on ADT about a year. Does it sound like osteoporosis?

[Javelin18]

I think it's worth talking with your doctor about. An MRI would reveal any hairline fractures. There is also a procedure to measure bone density, and evaluate you for osteoporosis.

[tango65]

Talk with your doctor to get a DEXA scan to determine bone density. Since you hit hard ii is not considered a fragility fracture. If the T value in the DEXA is at -2.5 it will be considered osteoporosis and treatment with denosumab or zoledronic may be indicated.

[spencoid2 in reply to tango65]

I can tolerate the pain and there is nothing to do about a hairline so I am not going to get an mri bur a decade scan makes sense. I did not hit hard enough that I should have sustained a fracture under normal conditions

[tango65 in reply to spencoid2]

I understand you may have osteoporosis, the DEXA scan will give you the diagnosis.

[Tall_Allen]

Don't guess. Get a DEXA scan.

[podsart in reply to Tall_Allen]

I had a dexa scan yesterday, it’s been many years since the last time. This one includes a trabecular score , especially for the lumbar region. I read it has something to do with the bone micro architecture. Do you know how to combine the BMD score and the trabecular score to get combined fracture risk score?

[Tall_Allen in reply to podsart]

All I have is this calculator:

sheffield.ac.uk/FRAX/tool.a...

You have to purchase this to calculate the adjustment:

link.springer.com/article/1...

[podsart in reply to Tall_Allen]

Thanks, saw that one

[Irun]

I have a decxa scan every 2 years , very quick and non invasive /no traces etc . Mine showed my score at -1,1 , apparently normal range is +1 to -1 so I have been consistently a hairs breadth over “normal” . As such I am told I have osteopenia (early stage osteoporosis).

Apparently osteopenia makes me twice as likely to break a bone than normal (I am only just in the scale though) . I was put on calcichew and zolondronic acid . The latter made my teeth all feel uncomfortable so came off that 3 years ago and only in calcichew . My score has not changed , I run trail races and fall over often by tripping on roots/stones but to date have never broken a bone ..

[Hidden in reply to Irun]

Doctors aren't real keen on recommending supplements. I suggest that you consider taking vitamin K2 for bone health. I take a vit K2 supplement that also includes nattokinase, from Vitacost.

healthline.com/nutrition/vi...

[SteveTheJ]

Your sternum is cartilege so probably not but you can always ask for a bone scan to be sure.

[spencoid2 in reply to SteveTheJ]

just looked it up and sternum is a flat bone that is connected to ribs with cartilage. is sure does not feel like cartilage and feels broken/ i broke my shoulder once and it felt like this but much worse. i have broken other bones and have an idea what a broken bone feels like.

[SteveTheJ]

Yes, sorry. I wasn't thinking and didn't know if I could edit or delete my reply. There are various other things like your nose that are cartilege but sternum is bone.

[j-o-h-n]

Next time remember that sitting is not always for . . . . . . . .

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 04/08/2022 7:14 PM DST

[Hidden in reply to j-o-h-n]

I'm tall and my aim is sometimes off. Unless you have a urinal then sitting, while not 'macho', works, at least for me. After a number of retention episodes I'm thankful that I can pee at all.

[j-o-h-n in reply to Hidden]

That brings up a fact, when Officers of corporations want to keep their male staff on their toes, they raise all the urinals a few inches.....

Yep. I agree, easy to pee, time for a jubilee.......

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Saturday 04/09/2022 2:41 PM DST

[Poowater]

Get a scan.

[Hidden]

was alcohol involved? 🤔

[spencoid2 in reply to Hidden]

are you referring to my original post about hitting the shelf? No alcohol, just unfamiliar space and it was pretty dark as was the shelf and I wear progressive glasses so ???

[Hidden]

Hey guy! There is now Nothing normal about us with no t and on adt . The muscle then the bones and teeth go . I went into osteopenia after yrs no t using adt . The6 put me on prolia . Two yrs later a non displace anterior l3 rib fracture showed in nuke scan last yar . I’m getting the new scans read to me Tuesday again . Prolia doesn’t help the joints any . My joints lit up on the scan , all joint S . It’s systematic djd fir me now . So Why after years of prolia are my bones breaking ? It doesn’t work . 👎