Urinary incontinence: anyone heard of Urox?

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Hyperactive bladder and incontinence is a problem for many of us (me especially!). A respected Australian supplier (Paralogic) of catheters, pads etc is marketing a product called Urox. It contains: horsetail (equisetum extract); cravataeva nurvala extract (cravetox) and lindera aggregata. I know nothing of these and am asking if anyone can enlighten me. The first link is to Paralogic's page, the 2nd link is to a phase 2 randomised double blind placebo controlled trial. On the surface it looks tickety-boo and if correct would be an advance for one of the more annoying and lifestyle destroying side effects of many PCa treatments.

Paralogic have also marketed a product directed at prevention of urinary tract infections called Urofem. It consists of D-mannose, a sugar that attaches to bladder bacteria and flushes them. (Third link)

I know there are no magic bullets but any advance on oxybutenin and mirabegron would be a relief, literally.

So: any knowledge or experience with these herbals, good, bad or warning against for PCa patients would be of great interest. Any naturopaths out there who dealt with urinary incontinence? Nal?

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This is the same trial that the company has on their website but perhaps the raw data might help you. Note that one of the cosponsors sells Urox. In and of itself this doesn't prove anything. But might be a warning sign. However, the two universities seem legit.

And I assume that you have tried Kegels? I usually get up 0-1 times a night to pee. But whenever that goes to 1-2 I do a few minutes of Kegels every day for a week or two. Seems like there is a slight delay but the number goes down to 0-1. I don't think it's a coincidence.

For me, Kegels work better if I contract while I'm using a back hyper machine. I'm doing an exercise anyway, so super time efficient and I also seem to get a better "Kegel muscle" contraction.

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