menbendazole or fenbendazole

[lewicki]

Is there a difference and which one should be used . OC will not prescribe menben but can buy fenben on line usage for animals. OK to do fenben?

[Hidden]

Your putting dog dewormer in your body. Think about it, surely you can't be that desperate.

[lewicki in reply to Hidden]

I am under the impression there is no difference in the medicine. Just in the name.

[lewicki in reply to lewicki]

Bark Bark

[Kaliber in reply to lewicki]

Yayahahahaya 😊😊😊

[dhccpa in reply to Hidden]

Mebendazole is actually prescribed for humans. But many use fenbendazole as well. They're very similar.

[lewicki in reply to dhccpa]

Thank you.

[Shooter1]

OK you got all the jollys. Some of us, me included started fenben before there was the other on the market. It followed when results started showing a benefit. I use the goat medicine as it comes in bottle for way less $$ than the vet for dog kind. Merck safe-guard fenbendazole 125 ml bottle $26. 2.4 ml with a 3 ml syringe in my morning coffee 3 days on and 4 days off. 55 doses of liquid, so way easier. Still don't have the old goat smell back in my sweat.

[lewicki in reply to Shooter1]

Funny. My daughter has some farm animals and offered the liquid that she uses on the animals. Did not take her up on it since I did not know if they were the same. She has two miniature goats Really. I will let you know if I get the ole Billie smell.

[dhccpa in reply to Shooter1]

I've been using fenben 14 months now. I haven't drawn any conclusions yet, but all is stable so far.

[LearnAll]

FenBen and Meben are very similar but not identical. Mebendazole is approved for humans but Fenbendazole is approved only for animals. If one wants to be on dewormer.. Mebendazole is preferable as this is in Care Oncology (UK) protocol .

[lewicki in reply to LearnAll]

Care oncology will provide it?

[LearnAll in reply to lewicki]

I heard from someone that CareOncology based in UK and now have branches in USA provide their 4 re-proposed medicines for PCa for a cost of $60 per month. Prescription from your Doctor is not required. These 4 medicines are (1) Atorvastatin (2) Metformin (3) Doxycycline and (4) Mebendazole. And I believe that these are all included in the cost of $60 per month. You need to call and verify if this info is accurate or not.

[kapakahi]

from the Indian online pharmacy I use you can get (no prescriptions needed):* atorvastatin for 10¢-30¢ per pill or $3-$9/mo;

* 1000 mg metformin sustained release for 13¢ per pill or $4/mo

* 100 mg mebendazole for 27¢ per pill or $8/mo;

* 100 mg doxy for 9¢ per pill or $2.70/mo.

The prices vary. I generally order large amounts so I cut down on shipping costs, but lately sometimes there's a limit because of supply problems due to covid. Other Indian pharmacies may be priced higher or lower, but in general India makes a huge percentage of the medications we use in the US and around the world . At this pharmacy you do have to pay $15 or so shipping, which is registered airmail; before the pandemic it would take about two weeks, now up to 3-4 weeks. But of course if you can get the same thing for an affordable price here the convenience would easily make up for the higher prices.

alldaychemist.com/

[dhccpa in reply to kapakahi]

They ship to USA?

[kapakahi in reply to dhccpa]

yes - theoretically the post office is supposed to get your signature when delivered (because it's registered mail) but that's become rare now, maybe because of short staffing

[dhccpa in reply to kapakahi]

I'll look into it. Thanks!

[podsart in reply to kapakahi]

Won’t you become resistant to the powerful antibiotic doxycycline with continuous use?

[lewicki in reply to podsart]

Don't know.

[podsart in reply to lewicki]

might consider asking your drs

[lewicki in reply to podsart]

Not sure why I would take an antibiotic.

[kapakahi in reply to podsart]

I don't use doxy - just noting its availability - I've always wondered about its longterm use myself, for both resistance and toxic potential

[Kuanyin in reply to podsart]

I believe the recommended dose of the antibiotic is100 mg which, theoretically, is subclinical, meaning, among other things, at this strength it shouldn't kill off the good bacteria in your microbiome. Also, there are people who take antibiotics for acne for long periods of time at much higher doses. My oncologist would never write me a script for an antibiotic even when I said that I would only take 60 mg. He thought there was a danger of liver damage. The CARE Oncology doctors will give you the medication and, I assume, they will monitor your situation with the appropriate blood tests. Fenbendazole works for me: be sure to mix it with olive oil which enhances its bioavailability.--K

[lewicki in reply to Kuanyin]

Thanks for the olive oil trick.

[Bethpage in reply to Kuanyin]

Kuanyin, "theoretically, it is subclinical, meaning, among other things, at this strength it shouldn't kill off the good bacteria in your microbiome." I'm the wife of a PCa patient, but as someone with Sjogren's for the last 20+ years, have experience with long-term doxy. 50 mg for the first many years, but then increased to 100 mg per the ophthalmologists for the last 14 years. In March of last year, I developed unrelenting diarrhea. Could not eat or drink anything for 12 weeks until I was prescribed Restora RX, a new scripted super probiotic. Initially, I thought perhaps covid, but it worked out my gut had had enough doxy. Eventually, I got better, but the ophthalmologist (saying there was no way the doxy was the culprit) put me right back on the doxy. This time I had 14 weeks of the no-eat, no-drink business. Restora RX worked again, but slower this time. No more doxy ever.

[Kuanyin in reply to Bethpage]

Hi Beth,There are members of this forum who have been taking Doxycycline (or Minocycline) for years and have never indicated any problems with habitual use. I agree with you, I, personally, would be hesitant to do so. Once the microbiome is disturbed I have heard that it may sometimes take years to reestablish gut balance. However, since you are a member of this forum, is your husband thinking of adding Doxycycline to his own regimen? If so, then perhaps he might want to contact the CARE Oncology people who have used this medication for quite some time in their protocol. There must be thousands of individuals taking the antibiotic on a regular basis with no major adverse reactions.

--K

[Bethpage in reply to Kuanyin]

Kuanyin, having seen my reaction to 20+ years of Doxy (and having had to nurse me through 3 months of that, which was ugly), my husband is studiously trying to avoid long term use of any kind of antibiotic. In addition to prostate cancer, he has CLL, so he's exposed to antibiotics far too often anyway. Several years ago we were considering a consultation with Dr. Dattoli. We decided against because of his protocols, which we realized meant success for some. Neither of us would ever say never as regards any treatment for PCa, but hopefully it will not be soon.

[lewicki in reply to kapakahi]

Thank you. Great Info.

[lewicki in reply to kapakahi]

Thanks . Good stuff.

[j-o-h-n]

Don't forget the flea and tick powder......and praticing sniffing.......

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Wednesday 04/07/2021 9:55 PM DST

[lewicki in reply to j-o-h-n]

Bed bugs ok?

[j-o-h-n in reply to lewicki]

Ok but not the blind ones.....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 04/08/2021 6:14 PM DST

[lewicki in reply to j-o-h-n]

blind bed bugs ??

[j-o-h-n in reply to lewicki]

Yep you can tell who they are, they're the ones with a white cane and a seeing eye dog....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 04/08/2021 7:25 PM DST

[lewicki in reply to j-o-h-n]

Great John. Thanks for the laugh.

[Kaliber in reply to j-o-h-n]

John would know .... they weren’t blind until they saw j-o-h-n in bed.

[Kaliber in reply to j-o-h-n]

I thought the flea and tick collar would be better than the powder ....... but it made my “ arm “ limp and shrivel ( the buckle gets caught in your zipper too ) .

Just say’in 😂😂😂😂❤️❤️❤️

[j-o-h-n in reply to Kaliber]

No zipper on my jeans...... buttons......

Just say’in 😂😂😂😂❤️❤️❤️

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 04/09/2021 10:58 PM DST

[Kaliber in reply to j-o-h-n]

Yea and REAL stretchy waist bands too. 😂😂😂😂

[j-o-h-n in reply to Kaliber]

With cummerbunds....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 04/09/2021 11:14 PM DST

[Kaliber in reply to j-o-h-n]

Yayahahahaya yayahahahaya....that’d be a sight. Bow tie too.

[j-o-h-n in reply to Kaliber]

Suspenders........

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 04/09/2021 1132 PM DST

[Kaliber in reply to j-o-h-n]

Too dressy for me yayahahaha 😂😂😂😂

[sm60]

I had a PSA of 20.3 two months ago, started a daily protocol of keto, resveratrol, 50K IU Vitamin D, 22 drops of 2% Lugol's in water and brought it down to 18.6 three weeks later to the surprise of of my GP. Finally got an appointment to see an urologist last week, and am getting another PSA test on Friday.

Adding Fenben next week (with DMSO solvent and Budwig diet mixture for bioavailability,) regardless of the new PSA result, for nine weeks (3 days on, 4 off.)

I've got enough Fenben coming for the 9-week course and will get a 4th PSA after that...all before submitting to a biopsy, as the urologist is hard selling...and is clearly all fired up to declare cancer and get me radiated.

I'm so naughty.

Will report results.