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Doctor wants information before giving cholera shot

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Today I saw an alternative doctor in Michigan. I requested a cholera shot and a script for Mebendazole 22.2 mg.

He wants information to study before he agrees to my request. Where can I find

this? Thanks

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Dachshundlove profile image
Dachshundlove

nature.com/articles/s41467-...

Journal Nature / Dukoral Post Diagnostic use and Prostate Cancer

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lewicki in reply to Dachshundlove

Great Thank You.

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lewicki in reply to Dachshundlove

BTW I have A miniature Dachshund. She is 15 years old. Going blind and deaf.

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Dachshundlove in reply to lewicki

Lewicki, I cannot imagine life without at least 1 dachshund. And I generally prefer having 2. I have long and fascinating non verbal conversations about food with my ginger weenies. They are splendid companions.

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lewicki in reply to Dachshundlove

They can be stubborn.

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Tall_Allen

You will never be able to provide him with anything definitive - there are no clinical trial data.

Here's the data on mebendazole, such as it is:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

The data on cholera shots is even weaker. It is just an observation from Swedish population data that men with prostate cancer who had that specific cholera vaccine (unavailable in the US), had lower PC-specific death rates. Of course, those who got cholera shots may be health workers and people who are more aware of health in general, and may have gotten diagnosed earlier. Here's the data:

nature.com/articles/s41467-...

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lewicki in reply to Tall_Allen

I think this will work . Thank you. As far as Mebendazole I will buy at Amazon Fenbendazole.

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dhccpa in reply to lewicki

I switched to the liquid fenben in November. I think 007 would definitely want it "shaken, not stirred."

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dhccpa in reply to lewicki

I have seen some accounts that indicate fenbendazole may work synergistically with chemo or immuno. But I've never seen anything that indicates it does or doesn't work well with Lupron. Doing a 1-man trial here.

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cesces in reply to Tall_Allen

"Itraconazole: The anti-fungal drug itraconazole has shown some evidence of having anti-cancer activity, possibly through an anti-angiogenic action and inhibition of Hedgehog signalling pathway [11, 12]. It is currently being investigated in a number of clinical trials, principally in metastatic prostate cancer (e.g. clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show.... A recently completed Phase II trial in basal cell carcinoma showed that in eight previously untreated patients with multiple tumours, four showed partial response and four had stable disease. In contrast, patients previously treated with vismodegib showed no significant changes in proliferation or tumour size [13]. There is laboratory evidence that Hedgehog inhibition can reverse resistance to taxane chemotherapy in a range of cell lines, including ovarian [14] and prostatic cancer [15]. There is specific evidence that itraconazole itself is able to reverse multi-drug resistance in resistant HeLa cells, at least in vitro, at doses achievable in humans [16]."

"12. Antonarakis ES, et al. Repurposing itraconazole as a treatment for advanced prostate cancer: a noncomparative randomized phase II trial in men with metastatic castration-resistant prostate cancer. Oncologist. 2013;18(2):163–73. doi: 10.1634/theoncologist.2012-314. [PMC free article] [PubMed] [CrossRef] [Google Scholar]"

That's sort of interesting.

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lewicki in reply to cesces

Anti fungal and anti parasitic meds may be taken just in case? What could it hurt?

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Tall_Allen in reply to lewicki

It is highly toxic.

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Tall_Allen in reply to cesces

"the magnitude of effect is modest, and treatment carries risk of toxicities associated with mineralocorticoid excess"clinical-genitourinary-canc...

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Schwah in reply to Tall_Allen

If you read the entire article, they seem to have really tried to adjust for any differences in Income, age, healthy lifestyle etc. etc.I could find no substantive risks I’m taking the vaccine so it seemed like a good risk reward scenario.

Schwah

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Tall_Allen in reply to Schwah

They did not adjust it for many confounding variables that probably make a big difference: like how often they tested their PSA, how often they had urological exams, age at first PSA and DRE, family history of prostate cancer, or use of 5aris. It is just another in a long list of associations with no known causative relation.

Can I ask where you located an alternative doctor in Michigan? I also live in Michigan and would like to make an alternative doctor part of my medical team, thank you.

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lewicki in reply to

Dr. David Brownstein. 6089 W Maple, West Bloomfield Mi 248-851-1600.

George71 profile image
George71

You can buy Dukoral over the counter in Canadian drug stores, I flew to Montreal and did it 2 years ago.

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INTZER11 in reply to George71

Thought Quebec required prescription.

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lewicki in reply to George71

I am near Detroit. Americans not allowed in Canada. Virus.

Irun profile image
Irun

My understanding is that you need a cholera jan if you are travelling to Central America or much of Africa so just tell the doc you are going to travel ! As an aside I had the jab as I was running in a race in Africa , only afterwards did I find out that it may also help my pca. I am due to go back for another as that was 2 years ago now .

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lewicki in reply to Irun

Might be what I will do. Thanks

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j-o-h-n in reply to Irun

If I told my Doc I'm going to "one of those" countries to run in a race, I know that he would say "do you mean a race to the all you can eat Buffet"....... Hate Him!!!

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 01/19/2021 5:38 PM EST

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lewicki in reply to j-o-h-n

He must have been hungry.

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j-o-h-n in reply to lewicki

Yes, for money....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 01/19/2021 6:04 PM EST

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lewicki in reply to j-o-h-n

The Oath.

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j-o-h-n in reply to lewicki

I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

To charge patients as much as the market will bear.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 01/19/2021 6:16 PM EST

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lewicki in reply to j-o-h-n

Right on. U of M wanted $ 5000 for a PSMA scan. $400 in India nd 900 Euros at the university of Heidelberg. But U of M turned me down to do the scan . Reason I still have a prostate. Fact.

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j-o-h-n in reply to lewicki

Best not to root for them when they play football.....

** To play video just click on the title on the top of the video**

youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCs...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 01/19/2021 6:40 PM EST

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Drphil1938 in reply to j-o-h-n

A Doc with humor, rare, and you as a patient has to be a comedy routine when you visit. You should create a reality show.🍸🍸🤠

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j-o-h-n in reply to Drphil1938

I did,,,,, It's called "Docs and Pairofdoxs"...............On channel 1....Everyday except today...

p.s. Good to see you!!!

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 01/21/2021 5:11 PM EST

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Drphil1938 in reply to j-o-h-n

Great response as usual.🤠🍸🍸

Marge65 profile image
Marge65

Try Facebook Fenben groups. Very informative!

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lewicki in reply to Marge65

Great Thanks

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lewicki in reply to Marge65

Not to familiar with Facebook. How do I do this? Thanks.

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paige20180

Greg Riggins at Hopkins is involved in a study on Mebandazole after they reduced cancer in the cancer lab lab rats after giving them Mebendazole because they had worms. Dr Emmanuel Antonanakis at Hopkins also was doing a study on dewormer. I believe Itracondazole. Been awhile since I read up on this.

I’m sure you have read Joe Tippens website and heard his story?

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lewicki in reply to paige20180

Thanks. The reason I am pursuing this is I really believe the more things we can through at this decease the better are chance of remission. I think the Cholera shot is an important one.

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TheTopBanana in reply to paige20180

cancer.gov/about-cancer/tre...

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lewicki in reply to TheTopBanana

Thanks TheTopBanana.

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TheTopBanana in reply to paige20180

cancer.gov/about-cancer/tre...

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MateoBeach

The cholera vaccine in the study is Dukoral. Not available in the USA but is over the counter in Canada. It is oral and not a “shot”.You can contact legitimate Canadian Pharmacies and find one that will ship it to you in a cold pack. There are no import restrictions on it. It is two doses. Yes the Swedish study is probably flawed by self-selection biases, but no downside in taking it. That is why I did so. Puts oneself in the same self-selected category.

Fenbendazole is great for worms. But for PC it makes sense to me only (possibly) in support of taxane chemotherapy. Just an opinion. No compelling evidence for this.

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lewicki in reply to MateoBeach

This is great. Since I live close to Detroit I will seek a pharmacy in Windsor Canada. Thanks

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