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Zoladex not working

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Well after years 23 to be exact it’s happening anti hormonal therapy zoladex has stopped working and waiting for oncology for the next step..

I am told it would probably be Enzalutamide. Can anyone tell me if it works and possible side effects?

Almost 74 GS 9 out of gland 7 weeks radiation in 98..

Been on intermittent anti hormonal therapy for about 15 years..

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Tall_Allen profile image
Tall_Allen

What is your PSA now? Any new metastases?

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roncyn in reply toTall_Allen

4.16 and testosterone <3

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roncyn in reply toroncyn

Showed pubic bone undecided by docs cancer or pageants been there several years

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Tall_Allen in reply toroncyn

I think autocorrect changed what you wrote- "pageants"?

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roncyn in reply toTall_Allen

Sorry misspelled

Paget's disease of bone

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Tall_Allen in reply toroncyn

Well, I think it's important to determine if you are detectably metastatic before deciding on a treatment. If the spot on your pubic bone did not shrink with Zoladex, it is most likely not a metastasis.

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roncyn in reply toTall_Allen

I have gotten different readings from radiology.. which is frustrating.

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Tall_Allen in reply toroncyn

Different size readings?? But did it shrink significantly on zoladex?

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roncyn in reply toTall_Allen

Last scan it has not enlarged..

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Tall_Allen in reply toroncyn

I was asking if Zoladex ever shrank it.

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roncyn in reply toTall_Allen

Not sure hasn’t change according to ct scans

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Tall_Allen in reply toroncyn

The radiologist report should contain a remark on its size before and after. If it never shrank after Zoladex, it is probably not a metastasis.

in reply toTall_Allen

What would it be then if not a met?

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A benign lesion.

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Shooter1

It works--see my prior posts for possible adverse effects, I think I had all of them other than death.

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RyderLake2

Hello,

Xtandi (enzalutamide) works. At least it has for me. I have been on it for over three years. My medical oncologist's advice would be to stay on the Zoladex train and simply add Xtandi to it. Hope that helps!

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roncyn in reply toRyderLake2

Will find out on the 20th with meeting with oncologist.

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tango65

You could request an Axumin PET/CT scan to determine if the lesion in the pubic bone is cancer and if there are other metastases.

If the pubic bone lesion is not a metastasis and there are not other metastases , you could qualify for darolutamide which is effective and better tolerated than enzalutamide or apalutamide.

The scan could also determine if there is activity in the prostate or in the pelvic lymph nodes and you could discuss if some local treatment could be indicated.

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Rod98168 in reply totango65

I've had several Axumin Scans showing one spot near where my prostate was, but when I had surgery to possibly remove the cancerous lymph node, pathology found no trace of cancer there. I also had several Mayo clinic C-choline 11 scans that showed the same possible cancerous spot. So my conclusion is these so called sensitive scans For prostate cancer are bogus and a waste of money and time. I did the scans with the hope of finding oligometastatic cancer that could be removed thus being curative.

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tango65 in reply toRod98168

Sorry to hear these PET/CTs did not work for you. They did work for me and in fact work very well for most of the patients according to the clinical studies,

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billyboy3

Bad news pal, but like me, you got so many years since the start of the war, so feel very blessed, as so many men do not get the time we have had. You should not give up but the fact is, as of this date, lots of stuff in the pipeline, but most offer short term benefits.

I suggest you make up a bucket list and go pedal to the metal-in all senses, live LARGE, love lots and fill up your remaining days. I too am getting ready for the last stage, and this damn virus has totally screwed up my plan to race my drag car as much as I could. such is life boys, rock on all!!!

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roncyn in reply tobillyboy3

Billy Boy I have a 1930 ford tuder street rod!

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billyboy3 in reply toroncyn

WAY COOL!!!!!

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Dalph87

Dad was on Zytiga (Abiraterone) which is similar, both this one and Enzalutamide can cause extreme fatigue.

Enzalutamide usually works for 2-3 years I think, but considering you got such an amazingly long response to Zoladex, you have a good chance of squeezing a lot more time than the average on Enza.

Every hormonal drug usually works for less time than the previous.

Best wishes.

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roncyn in reply toDalph87

Thank you!

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immunity1

Wow 23y, all of them winners I'm sure, with your staging and Gl score. Great. I would go to some effort to determine the ? metastasis in the pelvis. Could be a spot weld (SABR) might do the trick, +/- systemic treatment such as Enzalutamide.

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roncyn

It’s been a long haul. When I’m cognitive I can tell more

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Bodysculpture in reply toroncyn

Wow roncyn 23 years is incredible

I am praying there is a treatment that will give you many more

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roncyn in reply toBodysculpture

Thanks I appreciate that..working hard to keep going for wife and family!

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markoch26 in reply toroncyn

Would it work when you go back to your old treatment? Give it a try!

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NOCanceros

Hello

Is PSMA PET finds more cancer than Axumin.......?

George

Like Allen, did the public spot shrink significantly on zoladex?

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Andrevz

I was on Zoladex for 6 Years, then Oncologist told me i am Zoladex resistant now.. put me on Xtandi and Firmagon.. made a huge difference to the PSA.. but many more side effects..

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j-o-h-n

23 years.... keep on keeping on.... 23 more.....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 10/15/2020 5:46 PM DST

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tarzan11

I have been on intermittent hormone therapy for 17 years. PSA low as less than .002 to high of 72 depending if I'm on or off. No surgeries, no radiation. Initial psa of 14, 8 out of 12 cores positive, gleason 7(3+4). Hormone therapy has kept it under control but it has spread some. I'm 70 now. Started intermittent xtandi 5 years ago. It is approved for stand alone therapy if u want to dump the zoladex. Lowest psa on xtandi was 0.98. I think it would have went lower but I had a thyroid storm and heart issues for several months ...long story. Back on a cycle again. Psa 2.2 and dropping. No bone mets yet. Xtandi side effects not bad for me. I exercise and it helps. I can also get erection with xtandi alone. Wife and I still have fun date nights. Docs want me to add something that would probably ruin that. No thank you.

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