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Hi everyone,

Father is Diabetic and sugar levels are Out of control.He is always depressed and he sometimes go futher to 200 at sugar levels. He follows a healthy diet with organic good.Does anyone has experience with this? What can be done to equalize sugar levels.

Thanks you very much

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pjoshea13

Oral Prednisone seems to be a significant issue in diabetes & pre-diabetes. Anyone here injecting the stuff?

-Patrick

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Noel91 in reply topjoshea13

Thanks Patrick

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tango65

He should be seen by an endocrinologist . There are several medicines to control glucose levels. The obvious ones are metformin and insulin. Only an expert with clinical experience in treating diabetes can tell what is the best way to control his glucose levels.

mayoclinic.org/diseases-con...

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Noel91 in reply totango65

Thanks for answering.We went and he is on a diet but still Out of control.We went to doc today and she recommended to distribute insulin inyections.Let's see what happen.

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JimVanHorn

I am also diabetic with PCa and I have kidney disease. Sugar levels are basically insulin verses intake of calories especially high calorie foods and simple carbohydrates. I have had diabetes for 45 years. Exercise helps, but to most important thing is to watch how often and how much you are eating. I check my sugar level before each meal, and then I eat what I need, not what I want. You see when there is to much sugar in your body, your Red blood cells have too much sugar in the cell membrane. They do not exchange oxygen and CO2 in the lungs. They become brittle and break open in capillaries. This causes leg soars in diabetics. I think of them as M&M's. So have a hemoglobin A1C from 5.5 to 6.5, and diabetes almost disappears! This test gives you an average of 3 months of how much sugar is in the cell membranes of your RBC's. Now unhealthy kidneys can be a problem. They inactivate insulin in your body and get rid of it. So the insulin in your body can build up and you get sugar lows. Also, the kidneys give off a hormone that releases RBC's from your bone marrow. When the kidneys are in poor health they release no hormone and you get tired because your RBC count is under 10.0.

So all of these factors keep is going and your doctor can help. I wish you and your father well and just keep truckin'.

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Noel91 in reply toJimVanHorn

Thank You very much for your response Jim.He had 7.8 in hemoglobin A1C so It is quite high,isn't It?

Last scans show kidney function is okay.Is kidney disease related to Diabetes,PCa and Prednisone?

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JimVanHorn in reply toNoel91

I have read of many men on health unlocked/ PCa on Lupron with kidney disease. I have had diabetes for 40 years. When I stopped Lupron my heart fibrillation went away. So I can only tell what I believe to be true. Also, all of these things I had to figure out for myself and I want you to be aware of what to look for. I was so tired all the time which made me depressed and thinking the end was near until I found out that there were answers. An A1C of 7.8 could be lowered, and it really is not that hard. Sometimes I only eat half of a meal and eat the rest 3 hours later. When I am hungry I have a small snack of about 100 calories. I cleared off the top drawer of the refrigerator door and put the stuff on the back wall of the refrigerator. Now I have 100 calorie snacks on the door, so I don't look through the entire refrigerator and end up over-eating. I hope you have glucose tablets (from the drug store) for a sugar low. When sugar is under 85 the diabetic wants to over eat (clean out the refrigerator). The glucose brings him back faster without a high sugar level of 350! I take 2 or 3 tablets when that happens with a glass of water. You should have a sleeve of glucose pills in your car. Emotions can lower your glucose levels (when you are all keyed up). I check my sugar level before each meal. This may not be about PCa, but we all live in one body and each problem causes another. So I have a CPAP machine because I snore, and that machine has increased the oxygen in my RBC's! So I feel much better when I use it. Prednisone changes your sugar levels at higher doses of 50 mg or more. 5mg doses should be taken at the same time every day. It should be taken the same way way every day, before meals or after meals, but not whenever you remember to take it. Prednisone effects every part of your body and is really a form of adrenaline. It helps us heal faster, but has side effects of water retention. So a low sodium diet (no added table salt) is needed. If something tastes salty, do not eat it. You can ask your doctor why he is taking it. So just keep truckin' and asking questions.

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Noel91 in reply toJimVanHorn

Thank You Jim taking notes. What kind of 100 calories snaks do You take when You are hungry? Do you check your sugar before and after the snack? Or is just when You are hungry?Sorry for asking everything but I wanna make It clear.

Thank You!

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JimVanHorn in reply toNoel91

Well I look for "snack packs" like fruit or yogurt and nuts. Just look at the calorie count. Your father should tell you what he will eat. Each strip costs $1 and over the years I know what my sugar level is, so I do not check each time. If I have an early dinner I need something before I go to bed. In the late afternoon need something, but not every day. I also keep diet jello in little cups for a snack without calories. I have cut out gravies and most sauces and use low calorie salad dressings. Most of this is just common sense, but we get "used" eating the same thing without thinking. I only drink diet drinks including generic diet 7-up mixed with water. Unsweetened ice tea and a lot of water helps keep me hydrated. At my age I do not drink milk. I stay away from butter and greasy foods, and eat plenty of veggies with every meal. Spices help make foods taste better and can be added to almost everything. Like cinnamon to apple dishes and rosemary and thyme to soups. It is not like we ate in the 1980's, but after a short time we get used to it. Good luck.

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BigRich in reply toJimVanHorn

I am in the same boat, thanks for the info. My A1C was 5.8 for years with no meds; just diet restriction, took Prednisone and Zytiga increased to 7.7- did further diet restriction and brought it to 6.8

Rich

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tango65

it is related to diabetes and hypertension.

niddk.nih.gov/health-inform...

Prednisone can make diabetes worse. When taking zytiga (abiraterone) the prednisone is a replacement for hormones not produced by the body and to avoid the excessive production of hormones that retain sodium and water. I do not know if prednisone in this particular situation make diabetes worse.

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