Quercetin - another option.

[pjoshea13]

Was just reading an email from Anthony at RevGenetics. Patients of Dr. Myers will know RevGenetics as the manufacturer of resveratrol products such as Nitro250:

store.revgenetics.com/produ...

Anthony has been pushing a curcumin product that he claims meets Myers' standards:

store.revgenetics.com/produ...

He also has a quercetin product:

store.revgenetics.com/produ...

"We Estimate This Product To Have An 85 Fold Absorption Over Regular Quercetin."

store.revgenetics.com/colle...

Estimates are fine, but I would like to see a study or two. Thought I would mention it as a bioavailable option.

-Patrick

[rococo]

I recall LIFE EXTENTION made similar clalms on its products and even provided studies pc studies which I am going to to look back on and compare. There business models are similar

[Kuanyin]

This is a "straw man" type of argument: the RevGenetics so-called comparison chart lists several older products which long ago were replaced by more advanced preparations of curcumin: for example, Optima C 65x PC which not only cpntains 555 mg of Longvida curcumin per teaspoon, but also includes 2,777 mg phospholipid complex and 1,111 mg of phosphotidylcholine as well.

[AnthonyLoera in reply to Kuanyin]

Hi Kuanyin,

First.... Liposomes are not Micelles:

Liposomes are composed of a lipid bilayer separating an aqueous internal compartment from the bulk aqueous phase.

Micelles are closed lipid monolayers with a fatty acid core and polar surface, or polar core with fatty acids on the surface.

Now how do they compare because they are different?

Longvida (lipid curcumin) states it has:

up to 65 times the bioavailability of standard curcumin

MetaCurcumin (micellar crucumin) has

up to 277 times Bioavailability of standard curcumin in women according to German University study.

As for Dr. Myers, we have changed our curcumin formulas over the years to meet or exceed his recommendations. He likes our micronized products and because of his direction in curcumin, we went from offering regular curcumin, to offering BCM95 and now Micelle Nano Curcumin which is the most powerful we have come across.

While we offer the pure micelle liquid in a pump, our liquid capsules have additional curcuminoids that you can see as they are not dissolved into the micelle curcumin liquid.

I hope this helpa clear things up. If you have more questions email me directly: Anthony (at) RevGenetics (dot) com

Anthony

[Kuanyin]

OK, I got it. Now for the Sixty-four Thousand Dollar question. Without providing any "advice" or claims (which I know you are not allowed to make concerning your product) regarding illness (you know the background of most of the people who subscribed to this forum), what does research show as a therapeutic dose of your product (the softgels)? What I have read, what few studies there have been in this area, it was three grams of lipposomal curcumin. So, how much Micelle Nano Curcumin would it take?

Without realizing it, I have been using pTeroBlue Pterostilbene Plus Resveratrol whenever I run out of Reservage Reservatrol 250 mg +Pterostilbene. Their formula has organic French whole red grape AND Muscadine, which has other attributes that work differently from reservatrol grapes. Here, again, the recommendations for reservatrol are all over the map. What I can figure out is, it would be 500-700 mgs of a formula such as the one in Reservage. How many pTero Blues are we talking about for such a dose? Thanks for taking the time to comment on my original post.

[AnthonyLoera in reply to Kuanyin]

Your Sixty-four Thousand Dollar answer on MetaCurcumin:

Read the Amazon reviews by actual customers to see what they believe the benefits are: amazon.com/RevGenetics-Meta...

We also don't sell Reserveage, we sell Orgonica which is EU Organic Resveratrol. Also the trans-resveratrol molecule is the same whether it comes from grapes, peanuts, chocolate or japanese plants. It activates SIRT1.

We don't sell Pterostilbene or Ptero Blue, as we have tested that MetaCurcumin activates more Sirtuins than Resveratrol.

Currently Ptero seems to activate SIRT1, however we have verified that our RevGenetics Resveratrol activated SIRT1, SIRT2, SIRT4 and SIRT5 in immune cells while MetaCurcumin activated SIRT1, SIRT2, SIRT3, SIRT5, SIRT6 and SIRT7 in immune cells.

Maybe that is why most people get both MetaCurcumin and our EU Organic resveratrol.

[Kuanyin]

I have read the five-star replies on Amazon. Great anecdotes. However, you still haven't answered my Sixty-four Thousand Dollar question: how much for a therapeutic dose? If you can't, or unwilling to answer, are there any former patients of Dr. Meyers and what were his suggestions?