I have signed this petition before but seeing the other replies you have had I decided to check again and I too was accepted again. Perhaps everyone should check.I had definitely signed before.
No Christmas stockings, presents, drinks, dinner, chocolates or anything else unless you have signed the petition. And in the spirit of the season - passed it on to others.
Surely Wenceslas would have got the goodly page to sign? And one shepherd would get the rest to sign.
Personal theory- because most people with thyroid problems are gaslighted into silence and don’t want to bother anyone…… I expect there are quite a few who have eyes rolled by some friends when it is bought up in conversation (hmmm I wonder why I think that 🤔)
So true. The perception is that it’s a trivial issue. I also think that because it’s something that mostly afflicts women there’s a deep vein of misogyny that runs through how thyroid disease is perceived. And treated.
Very true. However, at least this petition was started by a (male) member of the medical profession who actually seems to care. As I've said before elsewhere, if we don't support his effort, we really will only have ourselves to blame.
Absolutely certain that I signed this petition and did the confirmation email acknowledgement, which increased the signature count, when the forum first requested members sign the petition, a while ago.
Using the same email account, I successfully signed again yesterday at 17. 28 p.m. and again did the confirmation email acknowledgement, which increased the signature count.
So far, I haven't been notified that I have duplicated my signature.
If I do not receive a notification going forward, that I have duplicated my signature, then there is some kind of error occurring, and must be the reason the petition has so far failed to reach the target number of signatures.
If I receive a duplication message I will let you know. It is over 24 hours now since my duplication signature was submitted.
Sadly, this applies to most of the many petitions that I have signed over the years. I go back to see how they are doing, and the numbers are pathetically small.
I am guessing that a lot of people think that nothing comes of them, so don't bother to sign them. Another deterrent was that when you signed one you got bombarded with requests to sign others, to the point of it being irritating (Change.org was very bad for that, but I think that they have improved now).
I also think that this is a sign of the times where the majority want everything done for them, rather than exert any effort themselves.
'the majority want everything done for them, rather than exert any effort themselves.'
Signing a petition doesn't actually require much effort.
This petition has been set up by a member of the medical profession who actually seems to care and want things to change. If we don't support his effort, we'll only have ourselves to blame.
'when you signed one you got bombarded with requests to sign others,'
Signing a Government Petition has never done this thankfully.
I thought I'd signed but decided to do it incase I hadn't. I don't know if it's because I've already signed but I ended up going on circles with the petition and the confirmation email!
I had signed and shared it weeks ago but when I saw your post I thought I'd check to make sure and no, it let me do it again, normally it would tell me I had already signed.........weird!
I’ve just shared on Facebook again, but the link says it goes to Health Unlocked. For me it went through, no problem, but does it work for people who aren’t HU members?
Most or all links here go through a HealthUnlocked page which asks if you want to go where it is taking you.
If you click on a link and follow it, it ends up on the correct petitions page. You can then take the web address from the page.
I have put the actual link below - but can only do so by adding in extra spaces so HealthUnlocked doesn't see it as a link. If you want to use it, copy it and remove all the spaces.
Sadly, I think that many people ask “what’s the point?” These days, it seems that the powers that be don’t listen. And from what I can read/see there’s an institutional deafness about thyroid matters that has existed for decades. We have a huge weight to push against and I think it’s easy to believe that “nothing I can do will make a difference.”
I completely understand what you're saying. But signing a petition doesn't actually require much effort. If we don't try, we'll only have ourselves to blame.
I agree. I signed some weeks ago and have also forwarded to friends and family asking they do the same. I don’t know how we otherwise get past inertia.
I haven’t found any repeated requests on here annoying at all, I am probably more irritated by the numbers not getting to 10K yet. Some places ask for donations when you ask questions, this is just a signature so I’m sure most people would understand in these circumstances.
Does the petition register duplicate email addresses rather than duplicate names as two of us cannot add our names as we get the message duplicate email address?
There are many other options but for this purpose that is as easy as any.
You can use their mail online in a browser - so don't need to add it to mail applications (e.g. on phones, or Outlook, or whatever). Indeed, you don't need ever to use it again - though it might be useful to keep a note of it in case something similar arises in future.
You might be able to add a new address to your existing email but it could get confusing. Much safer to keep it totally separate.
(Some people have the option of setting up additional mail addresses using Hide My Email - from Apple or something similar. But I doubt you are signed up to an Apple account?)
I don’t think we can worry about being a little bit pushy for this as we’re just asking for a signature. The polls on here were a great idea.
One problem is that It soon drops down and off social media threads of sites with lots of followers, and isn’t prominent at top of any web pages, it’s buried amongst and below other info and adverts. It did go out in a newsletter but was a bit difficult to spot.
I saw a petition on next door climb quickly, I have joined a few sites I don’t usually use just for this, every extra person you reach may pass it on to someone or family, it all helps.
Just checked and yes I have already signed this petition. Started to doubt whether I had or not. Not hard to do! and as others have said if you can't remember just do it anyway and if you have already signed it you will get an email informing you of this.
Is it possible to get this on Thyroid UK and perhaps Paul Robinson’s FB group to give it some more airtime in front of other groups of interested people.
Anyone who's on FB can post the link to any pages/groups. And because things on FB disappear from view so easily and quickly, it needs to be posted regularly (daily!) to catch as many people as possible.
helvella RedApple A friend has confirmed my suspicion 🤔
Because some of the platforms that are used for petitions are asking for donations, people are starting get what I would call ‘petition fatigue’.
This could well be why this has been so slow in getting off the ground. So it needs to be in the first line of any post - it will cost you nothing. Feel free to use.
THIS WILL COST YOU NOTHING BUT A FEW MINUTES OF YOUR TIME
It is estimated 50% of people suffering from hypothyroidism are never diagnosed - and that’s not because it is mild it is because it is misunderstood. The effects of poorly treated and untreated hypothyroidism will manifest in other co-morbidities. This is not trivial and is costing the country billions in health care costs and lack of productivity of people who could otherwise be living full lives and contributing to society.
Please sign and share - and if you have signed please share.
Petition: Give more funding for thyroid research and patients after price hike
Just re-posted on Facebook and I’ve also sent direct messages to friends and the ones that I’ve come back and said done it I’ve asked them to also share and emphasise the fact there is no money asked for and no payment required.
There are off course other similar issues always being highlighted. Hardly a week goes by without some ‘case’ being put forward for examination to government, MPs etc. There are absolutely loads of spin off charities, contributing services to NHS activities, to plug gaps which in my opinion, the NHS should be providing, either itself, or at least through government funding which should already be available to provide such services e.g. the dreadful state of the Care system. It’s a critical link to the optimum workings of the NHS itself. I feel every time I see a TV add for money for certain services, I recoil. It should all be much more ‘joined up’ than it is. I think the public were already reaching saturation point long since. Petitions also are part of this saturation. Hypos are already disabled by their fatigue of every possible type. I am not excusing the apparent sluggishness of the petition signatures, just agreeing with a wider viewpoint already expressed in previous replies.
This is exactly why this petition should be signed. The money is already there through the fine. It’s being asked for by an established researcher with, I feel, an enthusiasm absent from many so-called Professors of endocrinology.
Everything is in place (if the money will be released). Extremely little is required of us in this case.
Just want to re-iterate your words arTistapple, you put it so well!
This is exactly why this petition should be signed. The money is already there through the fine. It’s being asked for by an established researcher with, I feel, an enthusiasm absent from many so-called Professors of endocrinology.
Already signed and shared. For me, the wording of the petition could be better. Very few members of the public will be aware of the fine, or aware of the problems we face with gp's, or the cost of liothyronine. If the petition is posted to FB, then all you see as you scroll is the first sentence which doesn't scream urgency or relevance to the vast majority scrolling, possibly even those taking levothyroxine. Most people are not going to click to find out more unfortunately. Just my opinion
I agree the wording won't mean much to most people. But we can't do anything about that. People posting to FB, TwitX etc. can always add some sort of explanation when they post.
Here's what I wrote by way of explanation when a member here asked what it was about. Feel free to use, reworded accordingly wherever appropriate.
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The petition is asking the UK Govt for a percentage of the fine to be used to fund new research into thyroid disorders.
The fine was the result of a very long investigation (several years) into price hiking of thyroid medications by a pharma company. That price hiking resulted in many thyroid patients being denied the medication they needed because it became too costly for the NHS. We are still suffering from the fallout of this price hiking, by being denied liothyronine/T3 medication. Even though prices have since fallen, they are still many times more expensive than, for example, European countries. So patients are still being told that the medication they need to be well is too costly for them to be prescribed it on the NHS.
For the benefit of all UK thyroid patients, both current and future, please sign and share as much as you can. We need to get past that 10,000 sigs!
Also this explanation taken from a comment on this thread by Charlie-Farley:
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It is estimated 50% of people suffering from hypothyroidism are never diagnosed - and that’s not because it is mild it is because it is misunderstood. The effects of poorly treated and untreated hypothyroidism will manifest in other co-morbidities. This is not trivial and is costing the country billions in health care costs and lack of productivity of people who could otherwise be living full lives and contributing to society.
Have signed again, just incase I missed it (brain fog)…. Just wondering is there any celeb ambassadors who can push this petition. I was v impressed with Celeb Michelle Visage who was interviewed on Loose women on Thursday 30th Nov. She explained succinctly Hashimotos & stated there’s so much more to it than meds.
We need more people like her to get vocal, I felt she def wanted to get the ‘word out there’ !
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