Metavive11

[dentjazz]

Can someone pleases advise.

I have been on Levothyroxine for 30 years and recently been diagnosed with Hashimoto's.

It appears I have been under dosing.

My NHS Doc was totally unhelpful, so I recently sought help from an Integrative Doctor who suggested that I stop the Levo and go on to Metavive 11. plus other support meds for my Adrenals.

I stopped the Levo some 6 days before starting the new supplements.

I started to take these meds 3 weeks ago, and some of my symptoms began to go. However, now they have come back again. Is this because I have not reached a optimum level ?

It has been suggested that I go on LDN.

Comments please.

[Imaaan]

Noelnoel Hopefully she can help

[Alanna012]

How much Metavive 2 are you taking? How much levo were you taking before? How many times a day/what times are you taking the Metavive?

Levo can take a while to leave your system so the effects of being off levo might have just started kicking in.

[dentjazz in reply to Alanna012]

Thanks for your comments. I realise that I haven't given enough info and may have been misleading you somewhat.

I am being guided by a well known Dr. who is very good. I think Iam not allowed the mention specific professionals on this site.?? I just wanted to know how others are getting on with Metavive.

Actually, she didn't advise me to stop taking Levo.She advised to do a straight swap.

However, I read in Dr Peatfields book to take a short break before changing over meds and I felt this would be easier to my system.

I was on Levo 110mcgs, butI now know this was underdosing I believe.

I am now taking Met ii x1 morning, and Metii x2, pm

[Noelnoel]

Why did integrative doctor advise you to stop levo

[Alanna012]

If I understand you correctly, a straight swap still requires no longer taking the levothyroxine. The T4 in levothyroxine has a different effect from metavive and you will still be feeling the effect of it leaving your system even whilst taking the metavive.

Metavive is a glandular and has no declared hormone content. How people respond to it is very individual. Some do really well and others like myself do badly. How you take to it is probably partly determined by gut health, and stomach acidity and other hormones/vitamin levels. But it does seem (from reading other experiences) you may need more of these factors to be right to fully benefit from glandulars than you do from formulations with standardised content like NDT, T3 etc.

My labs always end up showing bottom range T4 and T3 using Metavive. It is slightly better used alongside synthetic T4. And frankly i still have some in my cupboard and will buy the odd bottle for a 'if nothing else' backup.

But that's just me. As I said some do very well and get their lives back on it. Going back to the possible 'variation' between pill/bottle hormone content, some get over this by taking quite a few pills. I do see that fairly consistently. I've read of people taking 10 capsules a day or even more. I can't say what the mean is.

These are just my observations. It would be good to get some positive experiences of actually using it/how people take it.

[Noelnoel in reply to Alanna012]

Hi Alanna

Regarding Metavive you also say:

How people respond to it is very individual

Couldn’t the same be said of any hormone replacement or drug. I would say it can and that’s not only because every individual is precisely that, individual but also our internal status is highly individual. Whether that be gut biome, nutrient levels, state of health, sex hormones, adrenal hormones and any number of determinants

But it does seem (from reading other experiences) you may need more of these factors to be right to fully benefit from glandulars than you do from formulations with standardised content like NDT, T3 etc.

???

And as for taking 10 capsules or more, that would very much depend on the strength of the capsule. Metavive has a range of doses: l, ll and Metavive Pro (porcine) and the same for the bovine range. Taking 10 Metavive Pro (the equivalent of 40 Metavive l) would land an individual in hospital with symptoms of severe overmedication

[Imaaan in reply to Noelnoel]

I responded to you yesterday but healthunlocked has been acting up so hopefully you got it

[dentjazz]

Thank you so much for confirming what I had already worked out. You are incrediabley knowlegeable.I'm a bit scarred to supplement with levo in case I over dose. It's all a bit hit and miss.! Are you a practitioner? I am so grateful for your comments.