Carbimazole

[TashaD8]

New here

Looking to buy carbimazole online, are there any reputable sources? Thanks

[startagaingirl]

Hi - carbimazole is a strong drug that should only be used under the supervision of an endocrinologist. They would ensure this was prescribed. So could I ask why you would be looking to source it for yourself without a prescription?

[TashaD8 in reply to startagaingirl]

Because I have hyperthyroidism brought on by too much levothyroxine

[humanbean in reply to TashaD8]

Just reduce your dose of levothyroxine then.

Who told you that your were hyperthyroid?

And have you ever had your thyroid antibodies tested?

[TashaD8 in reply to humanbean]

Doctor did and antibodies were

TPO ANTIBODY >1300 (<34) and TG ANTIBODY 269.3 (<115)

[bantam12 in reply to TashaD8]

If your doctor thinks you are hyper then please find another one who knows how to read results correctly !

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to TashaD8]

If you are diagnosed hypothyroid and on Levo, it's not possible to become hyperthyroid. It is possible to be overmedicated though, which is an entirely different thing. If overmedicated, then a reduction in dose is what you need.

If you post your latest results, with reference ranges, and dose of thyroid meds, members can help.

Also, have you had thyroid antibodies tested, are you Hashi's?

[TashaD8 in reply to SeasideSusie]

TPO ANTIBODY >1300 (<34)

TG ANTIBODY 269.3 (<115)

[TashaD8 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Results at the bottom

[startagaingirl in reply to TashaD8]

You can't have hyperthyroidism with too much levo, but you could be over-medicated. If that is the case, then you just drop your dose of levo. You really don't want to go near carbimazole.

Do you have any recent test results to share? It could be that if you actually are over at the minute that this is caused by a flare-up of auto-immune hypothyroid. Thuis can be a bit like swings and roundabouts of hypo and hyper type symptoms. But the hyper type always subside with the outcome being even more hypo than before.

Carbimazole is only used with a genuine hyperactive thyroid, usually caused by Graves Disease. In that case you would be on carbimazole with an endo and then have levo prescribed to counter any subsequent lack of hormone. It's called 'block and replace'.

If you post results we will be able to advise your best action. Ask your GP's receptionist for these, you are entitled to them by law.

Gillian

[TashaD8 in reply to startagaingirl]

Results below

[TashaD8 in reply to startagaingirl]

Antibodies are raised as well

[startagaingirl in reply to TashaD8]

Hi - as the others have said, you are actually really under-medicated and need an increase in levo. This can only be done 25mcg at a time, every 6-8 weeks to avoid shocking your body.

You also have Hashimotos auto-immune, which will produce the swings and roundabouts I mentioned above. This means that your immune system is attacking your thyroid by mistake, gradually killing off your thyroid cells and leaving you more hypo over time. 90% of all hypothyroid is caused by this, including myself. Many of us find that a strict gluten free diet helps reduce this as it can be caused by a condition known as leaky gut.

This is normally accompanied by some serious nutritional deficiencies caused by damage in the gut and also typically low stomach acid. You really need test results for vit d, vit b12, folate and ferritin. It is important that all of these are at a fairly high level for thyroid hormone to work properly. If your gp won't test these, then many of us use private testing through Medichecks or Blue Horizons.

Lots of stuff on here about Hashimotos along with some very good reference links to learn more, just search in the box or by topic in the list.

Gillian

[Sylpops in reply to TashaD8]

Hi TashaD8

Why not make an appointment with your doctor or endocrinologist. I read of so many people on this site self medicating for thyroid disease. They are playing a very dangerous game with their health. I know thyroid disease is not very nice, I have it myself. Please be very careful.

[helvella Administrator in reply to Sylpops]

TashaD8 posted over a year ago (actually closer to two years). I sincerely hope she did get appropriate treatment and support but has not posted or replied more recently.

[TashaD8]

TSH 34 (0.2 - 4.2)

FREE T4 10.7 (12 - 22)

FREE T3 3.0 (3.1 - 6.8)

[humanbean in reply to TashaD8]

Your doctor told you you were hyperthyroid with those results? On the contrary, they are showing that you are very hypothyroid and massively under-medicated. You need a raise in dose of your Levothyroxine, not a reduction.

If you raise your levothyroxine dose then, if things go to plan, your TSH will reduce, and your Free T4 and Free T3 will increase, which is what you need to happen. Since Levothyroxine needs to be increased fairly slowly, you will need to have an increase in dose of 25mcg, wait 6 weeks, then test again. If you are still showing hypothyroid results, you will need another 25mcg, then another test 6 weeks later. Keep going through that cycle of increase of 25mcg, then test 6 weeks later, until your test results are optimal and your symptoms have gone.

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to TashaD8]

TashaD8 As already mentioned by others, you are undermedicated with these results.

From thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_... >Treatment Options

Dr Toft states in Pulse Magazine, "The appropriate dose of levothyroxine is that which restores euthyroidism and serum TSH to the lower part of the reference range - 0.2-0.5mU/l.

In this case, free thyroxine is likely to be in the upper part of its reference range or even slightly elevated – 18-22pmol/l. Most patients will feel well in that circumstance.

But some need a higher dose of levothyroxine to suppress serum TSH and then the serum-free T4 concentration will be elevated at around 24-28pmol/l.

This 'exogenous subclinical hyperthyroidism' is not dangerous as long as serum T3 is unequivocally normal – that is, serum total around T3 1.7nmol/l (reference range 1.0-2.2nmol/l)."

Dr Toft is past president of the British Thyroid Association and leading endocrinologist. Email [e-mail] for a copy of this article, print it and highlight question 6, then ask your GP to raise your dose with immediate effect, and make sure that you retest/increase dose every 6 weeks as advised.

TPO ANTIBODY >1300 (<34)

TG ANTIBODY 269.3 (<115)

Your high antibodies mean that you are positive for autoimmune thyroid disease aka Hashimoto's which is where antibodies attack the thyroid and gradually destroy it. The antibody attacks cause fluctuations in symptoms and test results. These antibody attacks can cause swings in symptoms and results from hypo to hyper and back to hypo. These swings are temporary and dose adjustment should be made when they occur and readjustment when things settle down.

You can help reduce the antibodies by adopting a strict gluten free diet which has helped many members here. Gluten contains gliadin (a protein) which is thought to trigger autoimmune attacks so eliminating gluten can help reduce these attacks. You don't need to be gluten sensitive or have Coeliac disease for a gluten free diet to help.

Supplementing with selenium l-selenomethionine 200mcg daily can also help reduce the antibodies, as can keeping TSH suppressed.

Read and learn so you can help yourself, most doctors don't attach much, if any, importance to antibodies and what can happen, or they simply don't know about it.

Gluten/thyroid connection: chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

stopthethyroidmadness.com/h...

stopthethyroidmadness.com/h...

hypothyroidmom.com/hashimot...

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

[Boohbette17 in reply to SeasideSusie]

I love reading your posts/replies Seaside Susie - always so informative!

[silverfox7]

Is there a different doctor at the surgery you can see. With a bit of luck he may be more clued up every time you are tested on these or supplements-vitamins etc then post your results and ranges and we can help. Ranges are important as they differ from lab to lab so without them we would just be guessing.

Have a look on the THYROID uk site who run this forum as lots of useful info and shout out if anything you don't understand.