Quick clarification - antibodies

[cupcakegirl]

Just been reading through info on the site and it seems to suggest that having any thyroid antibodies present is abnormal / potentially an issue is that right, or badly worded?

[shaws Administrator]

The commonest cause of hypothyroidism is thyroid antibodies which attack the thyroid gland until we are hypothyroid. The antibodies wax and wane - sometimes too much and at other times too little. It is called an Autoimmune Thyroid Disease - commonly called Hashimoto's. Not everyone has antibodies.

Antibodies can be reduced by going gluten-free.

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

[cupcakegirl in reply to shaws]

Thank you! It's hard to decipher some things! The ThyroidUK site has "antibodies present" in the criteria which implies some people don't have them but it may mean "high levels of antibodies present". Mine are showing well within the normal range, which is broad, which again implies it's not an issue to have them. Wish my GP were more clued up so I didn't have to try and figure it out for myself!

[tyke14 in reply to shaws]

'Antibodies can be reduced by going gluten-free' citation needed!!!!!!

[shaws Administrator in reply to tyke14]

chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

hypothyroidmom.com/how-i-in...

[tyke14 in reply to shaws]

there not citations, they are poor websites by unqualified people, if its not a peer reviewed journal with a high impact factor then its not better than fiction. If you look on Pubmed you might find more information regarding this. It is true that people with Hashi' usually have CD, along with other auto imune disorders, but the link between a gluten free diet and reduction in thyriod antibodies has not been proven.

[shaws Administrator in reply to tyke14]

I think you don't realise that the members of this forum, including Administrators are not medically qualified and if you wish you can research Pubmed for your answers.

[tyke14 in reply to shaws]

if your not medically quaified then you shouldn't give medical advice.

[shaws Administrator in reply to tyke14]

The medically qualified people you have consulted do not appear to have answered your questions otherwise why would you be on a forum.

[Clutter in reply to tyke14]

Tyke14,

And you should read the forum posting guidelines before telling members what they should and should not post.

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Everyone is only speaking from their own experience, that of friends/family or other people they may have spoken to.

People MAY be able to evidence some of their information by linking to research, reliable websites or quoting from well researched books and if at all possible this should be done when making 'definite' statements.

Just because something worked for you, this categorically does not mean that it will work for everyone. Please remember this when you post.

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[Maggie0652 in reply to tyke14]

tyke14, Have you got a thyroid disorder? There's nothing at all on your profile...

Perhaps it would be a good idea for you to tell us something about yourself and your reasons for joining the forum...

[tyke14 in reply to Maggie0652]

Yep, I have hashimotos

[Rmichelle in reply to tyke14]

Sorry how rude!!! This site has given me valuable advice and support they are geniune caring people who give up there time to make others more knowledgeable about their thyroid condition, i joined this site 1 month ago and knew nothing!! I would trust these lovely people more than a rude self importance doctor who knows jack about thyroids!!!!

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to tyke14]

"but the link between a gluten free diet and reduction in thyriod antibodies has not been proven."

But there's plenty of members here with Hashi's who have found that a gluten free diet has actually reduced their antibodies, along with other benefits too. Sometimes the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

[Boohbette17 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Love it!! 👍💗

[researcherUK in reply to tyke14]

"but the link between a gluten free diet and reduction in thyriod antibodies has not been proven."

You don't have to give up Gluten if you don't want to. This is really a personal choice. However, there is a connection between gluten and AITD. The molecular structure of gliadin, the protein portion of gluten, closely resembles that of the thyroid gland.

When gliadin breaches the protective barrier of the gut and enters the bloodstream, the immune system tags it for destruction. These antibodies to gliadin also cause the body to attack thyroid tissue. This means if you have AITD and you eat foods containing gluten, your immune system will attack your thyroid. Even worse, the immune response to gluten can last up to 6 months each time you eat it. This explains why it is critical to eliminate gluten completely from your diet if you have AITD.

Gluten is also responsible for a lot of illnesses. The wheat consumed today has no resemblance of the wheat that we human can digest. If you want medical evidence, there is a lot out there for you to find. To name a few, check the work of Dr William Davis, a cardiologist, and Dr Perlmutter, a neurologist.

And here is one of many links in a peer-reviewed journals, ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

also "The close interaction between CD and AITD was evidenced by the decrease of thyroid disorders and anti-thyroid antibodies after switching to a gluten-free diet. "

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

[Hidden in reply to researcherUK]

Just reading the post for interest. What is AITD and CD?

[humanbean in reply to Hidden]

I'm guessing, but I think :

AITD = Autoimmune Thyroid Disease

CD = Crohn's Disease

[researcherUK in reply to humanbean]

AITD = Auto-Immune Thyroid Disease

CD = Celiac Disease

AITD and Celiac are both auto-immune whereby the body is attacking and damaging the thyroid in Grave's and Hashimoto's and damaging the finger-like villi of the small intestine in Celiac's.

Chron's is not auto-immune. So, it doesn't cause the body to attack itself. It is a chronic inflammation of the immune system attacking harmless virus, bacteria or food in the gut causing inflammation that leads to bowel injury.

[Hidden in reply to humanbean]

Thanks!

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK in reply to Hidden]

You will find those, and many more, in my abbreviations and acronyms document:

dropbox.com/s/og3lmxa1dqadb...

[Hidden in reply to helvella]

Thanks!

[Boohbette17 in reply to researcherUK]

Bravo reasercherUK!!

[researcherUK in reply to Boohbette17]

You are too kind Thank you Boohbette17

[Boohbette17 in reply to researcherUK]

Aww thank you dear! I wish I would of seen this reply sooner but you see, I actually fell asleep some ( Im in the states & read in bed right before I turn in.

Ultimately, ypur post was thorough& well said to the one who was irrate & uninformed. 😊

[researcherUK in reply to Boohbette17]

Bless you. No worries. Happy to help. I hope you are far away from the hurricanes and safe.

[Boohbette17 in reply to researcherUK]

Hi again taking a lunch break. Im safe thank you , in Northeast Ohio 😊

[researcherUK]

You are very welcome, Orangerose.