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Myxedema is sometimes referred to as thick skin,

The Oxford English Dictionary's earliest quotation for "thick-skinned" in this figurative sense is dated 1602. There's also an entry for "thickskin," noun, "one who has a thick skin; a person dull or slow of feeling," earliest quotation 1582.

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silverfox7

I wonder what the treatment was then and whether it helped. Probably not but it sometimes feels now that we are still in the dark ages!

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Jennyfluff in reply to silverfox7

aint' that the truth!!! I cannot imagine where I would be now, if I didn't put my foot down!

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flatfeet1 in reply to silverfox7

I know one physician fed a queen (cant remember which one) who had thyroid disease, fish roe sandwiches as the roe has T3, so probably better treatment ?

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silverfox7 in reply to flatfeet1

I did toy with the idea that it could well have been better! They did have a good selection of herbal remedies then on which I'm sure many modern day drugs have been based on those properties and I'm sure they would have had a 'cure' for most ailments or something to soothe them.

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flatfeet1 in reply to silverfox7

Think your right. Nothings really changed but interference with some dubious blood tests.

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silverfox7 in reply to flatfeet1

Ignorance plus trial and error probably edged it over rules and regulations today! That's a frightening thought!

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greygoose in reply to flatfeet1

And a lot of dubious drugs!

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to silverfox7

If you think that doing nothing was better. :-(

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Rod

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silverfox7 in reply to helvella

Interesting Rod, thank you! Had just been wondering if I could deal with eye of newt or whatever! My son and I are interested in our family tree and I always say that whatever we turn up we have to put it in context. So if I had been around then it may well have resulted in doing something the modern day me wouldn't like to think about but then modern day me feels that if it worked I would do it and I do feel a more natural treatment is better than modern day technology that's more synthetic but its how far we take the argument, pills should be fool proof but we know of hiccups. May be they were less rigid and took more or less of what was dished up without thinking about it whereas we are expected to not tamper. I've always shuddered at the thought of my gran eating raw liver daily for PA but I'm sure if I'd had to do that I would have!

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flatfeet1 in reply to silverfox7

I'm with you on that

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flatfeet1 in reply to helvella

Thanks Rod, I'm of the same mind as silverfox see above.

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greygoose in reply to flatfeet1

Roe has T3? Oh, really! Could be why I craved it as a kid. We often had it for dinner and I loved it!

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flatfeet1 in reply to greygoose

Probably why its expensive too. Now you don't get that on prescription :-D

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greygoose in reply to flatfeet1

Is it? I haven't eaten it for a long time. But it was cheaper than the fish when I was a kid. My mum would send me up to the wet fish shop at closing time on a Saturday evening to get whatever they were selling off cheap and it was usually either kippers of cods' roe. Then we would have a slap-up meal with whatever I brought home. lol These days shops would rather throw food in the bin and pour bleach all over it rather than sell it off cheap!

Oh, lord, I'm getting old! lol

Hugs, Grey

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flatfeet1 in reply to greygoose

Too true, we also went to the fish market and got cods roe to spread on bread and butter, a real (poor mans caviar) treat.

Recently tried to get it and was told "we don't sell it for health and hygine reasons, but if you want it for taramasalata we sell that" ! ! !

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greygoose in reply to flatfeet1

What a cheek! lol

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silverfox7 in reply to greygoose

Cheek indeed! Don't think we can trust much these days.

To go back to the start of the thread. How do we know the queen had a thyroid problem? Was it tabulated or are we guessing from a painting? Don't tell me she got a FT3 reading done!

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greygoose in reply to silverfox7

lol She would have been very Lucky if she had! Can't get one these days.

I really don't know the answer to that question. And which queen? I've always thought that Victoria had a thyroid problem, looking at the photos and paintings. And sandwiches does sound more like the Victorians than, say, the Elizabethans. Sandwiches hadn't been invented then, I don't think.

I can just imagine Victoria eating her roe sanwiches with a nice cup of tea. He probably cut the crusts off for her, too! lol

But often when I look at old paintings I think Oooo, nasty goitre she's got there! Or hmm... he's got low GH. lol It's become a sort of obsession with me.

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flatfeet1 in reply to greygoose

My brain must be addled in this hot weather, I have got it slightly wrong, duhh.

It was during the reign of Queen Victoria, prominent London physicians prescribed special raw thyroid sandwiches to failing patients.

But i am correct that caviar/roe has T3, don't know how potent.

I did like the picture you painted though :-D

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greygoose in reply to flatfeet1

Ewww raw thyroid sandwiches! Don't fancy that. Although maybe it's quite nice in a sandwich with a little cucumber and gentlemen's relish...

But I knew it had to be Victoria! Ha ha! I was right! lol

:)

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flatfeet1 in reply to greygoose

:-) xx

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flatfeet1 in reply to silverfox7

Hi sliverfox, Im afraid I got it muddled, see my reply to greygoose above.

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silverfox7 in reply to flatfeet1

Don't worry! We've had a bit of lighthearted humour. Quite enjoyed the ride!

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flatfeet1 in reply to silverfox7

:-) xx

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Spareribs in reply to flatfeet1

I wondered why Victorians had 'chokers' - as a test maybe?

sorry to reply to an old post, 'appens... x

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flatfeet1 in reply to Spareribs

:-) x

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