Who poops the most??? 💩

[Lucy41]

Right folks who’s heard of the game battle ships????? I could sink every single ship first go... honestly I spend most of my day on 🚽 I poop for England.... at least 50 times a day who can beat that??? Lol 😂

[Kdw1]

I wish I could poop 50 times a day that sounds like a relief lol

[Lucy41 in reply to Kdw1]

Omg I can’t hold it I literally shit myself at times

[Maureen1958 in reply to Lucy41]

Is it diarrhoea?

[Lucy41 in reply to Maureen1958]

I’ve not had a solid 💩 in nearly 4 years

[Maureen1958 in reply to Lucy41]

Have you heard of Bile Acid Malabsorption?

[Maureen1958 in reply to Lucy41]

gutscharity.org.uk/advice-a...

[Lucy41 in reply to Maureen1958]

Thank you for that it’s really interesting x

[Maureen1958 in reply to Lucy41]

If you want any more info just ask.

[Lucy41 in reply to Maureen1958]

As much info as possible please xx

[Maureen1958 in reply to Lucy41]

They do say that lots of doctors don't know about it. But I am not sure if that is right as when I asked my doctor she knew what I was talking about.

Basically it can mean that you are not reabsorbing bile after eating and it is making its way to your bowel. Your bowel doesn't like bile so it wants to get rid of it. Each time you eat you need bile to break down the food. Hence you can see the problem. If you eat fatty food you need more bile to break it down, so fatty food can be more of a problem than a piece of bread for example. As soon as bile hits your bowel, your bowel will want to get it out.

Usually in the UK you would be sent for a SeHCAT test. You have to visit the hospital twice, a week apart. The first time you swallow a radioactive pill and a week later go back for a scan to check how much is left. From that they can determine whether you have BAM or not. You have to reach a certain criteria. I didn't fit the bill so they wouldn't give me the medication.

The medication you would be given is a Bile Sequestrant, which basicially mops up the excess bile, so you don't have to keep rushing to the loo so much.

At present with COVID some people have been able to get their GPs to let them trial a Bile Sequestrant to see if it works.

Hope that helps.

Feel free to ask me anything else. I will try my best to help.

[Lucy41 in reply to Maureen1958]

Thank you so much for your useful information x

[Maureen1958 in reply to Lucy41]

Just noticed you have had your gall bladder removed, this can cause BAM (Bile Acid Malabsorption).

[KosherDill in reply to Maureen1958]

Doctors seem to NOT know about lots of stuff! 😆

[Viklou in reply to Kdw1]

Bloody hell bet your rear end is permeable

[Lucy41 in reply to Viklou]

My rear end is on permanent fire 🔥

[Viklou in reply to Lucy41]

That over twice every hour. There must be nothing of you. I thought going 20 times was bad during flares but bloody 50!!! How long has this been going on for

[Lucy41 in reply to Viklou]

It’s been going on for years my body weight fluctuates when I have my monthly’s I feel bloated..... I’m a size 12

[stephersb in reply to Lucy41]

Bit of a personal question - do you find it worse during or around the time of the month? I was diagnosed with IBS and then had a procedure for endromitriosis and since the removal of that my IBS has been improved by 95%. I was going 3 times a day and hadn't had a solid bowel movement in 2 years. Now I go once a day, don't have urgency to to and its solid. Mugbt be worth reading up on to see if you have any other symptons.

[Batteria in reply to Kdw1]

I trust you’re being monitored by the medical profession. You are losing too many nutrients. Please don’t put up with this abomination. Con amore Bx

[Meeowla]

Hi hang on in there! Get help don’t put up with this! You’ll miss Santa!Pure Aloe Vera gel I find cools and soothing while you get the cavalry in.

[Lucy41 in reply to Meeowla]

That’s what I use plus the bullets to put up me bum to help numb the area doctors know I poop this much and haven’t suggested anything

[xjrs]

Have you been getting any help with your IBS, so you don't need to poop so much? Here is some information about IBS that I have shared with others in this group in case any of these tips are of interest to you:

IBS can be due to a number or combination of factors - these can be stress (including stress from early life experiences) which impacts the communication between the brain and the digestive system. There are lots of free webinars online at the moment regarding mindfulness meditation which might help. Plus you can ask to be referred for CBT or something similar to reduce anxiety - I would have thought online appointments are available. Exercise can play a major role in IBS in terms of reducing stress, helping your gut microbiome and regulating bowel movements.

There is also not absorbing certain types of carbohydrates called FODMAPs very well, the residue ending up in the colon and bacteria feeding off them causing symptoms. Ordinarily feeding gut bacteria is a really good thing - when you feed good gut bacteria these produce by-products that have great health effects in the gut and throughout the body. However, in some people with IBS bad bugs might have the upper hand over good - these bad bugs may cause symptoms such as excess gas, pain or disordered bowel movements. There is an interesting infographic on this here:

gutmicrobiotaforhealth.com/....

This is why it’s worth trying probiotics such as Alflorex (which has been scientifically studied for IBS) or Symprove to crowd out the bad bugs and make their numbers die down. If that doesn't work you can try the FODMAP elimination and reintroduction diet. This is normally under the guidance of a nutritionist via GP referral - this may not be possible at the moment so you can read about it online. If you download the Monash University FODMAP app and Kings College fodmap apps, they will tell you which foods contain FODMAPs and in what quantities. You can eliminate all FODMAPs for 2 weeks and then introduce each type of FODMAP one at a time starting in small quantities, increasing over a 3 day period and wait up to 4 days for symptoms. I go much slower than this - only introducing a small amount (1/4 to 1/3 of a normal portion size) of the same food for 3 days and then increase if tolerable or no symptoms and cut back to the previous amount if symptoms for longer and then try to increment again . I've read your microbiome can adapt to handling a new food if introduced very slowly and your bad bugs are under control with a good probiotic. Ideally you want to eat as many FODMAPs as you can since they are good for your health. Many people with IBS don't have diverse gut bacteria - it has been found that people who lack a diverse microbiome are more prone to diseases in general. In the long run, if you can get your symptoms under control, the ideal situation is to have a very varied diet - lots of different coloured fruits and vegetables, a variety of protein and carbohydrate sources including cereal fibres. This may seem a long way off, but with the right treatment all of this is possible. Last year all I could consume to control my IBS was white rice, protein and limited low fodmap veg. Using the approach above (particularly introducing Alflorex) I am now able to consume far more foods - more than I've ever dreamed of including wholewheat bread which is unheard of for me.

If you are also suffering from pain, you may be suffering from visceral hypersensitivity (functional abdominal pain) - there is info about it here:

iffgd.org/lower-gi-disorder...

It is where the brain interprets the normal activity of the bowel as pain - this is due to a wearing down of neurons in pain control centres of the brain which can be caused by PTSD, neglect or abuse in childhood, extreme stressful events etc. The first line treatment is nerve pain agents such as low dose amitriptyline. There is a theory that being on something like amitriptyline for 6-12 months can help the pain control centre neurons to regenerate. Note that amitriptyline can cause constipation, but this can be helpful in people who are diarrhea dominant. Unfortunately I couldn't tolerate these. Linaclotide (for IBS-C only) & Alflorex have helped me with this intestinal pain.

You may also find assistance with anti-spasmodic medication such as mebeverine (Colofac) or enteric coated peppermint.

You can find some info on self management here:

theibsnetwork.org/the-self-...

If all of the usual IBS remedies fail and you are experiencing diarrhea, it is worth getting tested for BAM (Bile Acid Malabsorption), which can cause constant diarrhea - there is a separate test and treatment for that. Good luck.

[Lucy41 in reply to xjrs]

Wow thank you for this useful information xx

[Princesspeach84]

Do you have painful periods? Bowel changes when on periods? Look into endometriosis, I have this and it causes IBS symptoms as well as daily pain. If endometriosis is on the bowel it causes IBS and many ladies are told it’s IBS when it’s actually endometriosis. If it’s on your bowel it will need treatment x

[stephersb in reply to Princesspeach84]

Exact same thing happened to me! Didn't have it round the bowel but was all in the pelvis and since my Laposcopy things have been a lot better. I was diagnosed with IBS, did low fodmap and took so many different medication but with no result.

[Princesspeach84 in reply to stephersb]

Glad you got sorted 👍 it’s ridiculous how many of us are brushed off with it’s IBS when endo needs treatment and if it gets ignored a stoma bag may be needed. I try to spread my message far and wide as I hate to hear of anyone getting fobbed off like I have been

[stephersb in reply to Princesspeach84]

Its crazy! When the gynecologist said it causes IBS symptons I was shocked I had no idea. Was a bit skeptical then when the surgery took place and I had improved it was amazing! Hoping I don't have to go for further surgeries in the future and it can be kept at bay but I feel that's unlikely.

[Princesspeach84 in reply to stephersb]

Yes unfortunately the endo grows back 😭 but hopefully you are one of the lucky ones. After my lap I was told mine was on my rectum and bladder, I knew this before op as that’s where my pain was. I know I’ll have to have it removed again but I’m hoping it will be a while yet 🤞 endo is so misdiagnosed and hardly known and it’s such a horrible disease. When I had my surgery I recovered in the bowel ward and nurses there said they had never heard of endo 🤔 absolutely shocking when reports say 1 in 10 woman suffers from it

[mondlee6248 in reply to Princesspeach84]

What’s an endo?? And what feeling it has on the rectum

[Princesspeach84 in reply to mondlee6248]

Endometriosis is basically your periods and tissue going back into your body rather than coming out when you have a period. These cause blood blisters inside your body and attach to your bowel, rectum, ovaries etc these then grow thanks to estrogen 😫 there’s no cure but there is treatment, the pain in rectum I had was like a dull ache and swelling. When I sat down I felt as though I was sat on a boiled egg, my pain is always worse after period but some ladies have theirs during

[mondlee6248 in reply to Princesspeach84]

Ooh okay, thank you for the explanation

[Jocarj]

I'd consider seeing a decent nutritionist.

When my late mum had cancer, she ultimately had a Whipple's and struggled to digest food as I think they removed the Pancreas.

I had already seen a nutritionist not long before to try and solve my own issues so recommended her (she is on the north Kent coast FYI called Julie Clark).

My mum was a lot better off after that and was able to digest more food than before.

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I saw this and thot this was funny sh*t. Then I didn't because this is literally me!! May sound off but I don't have very many normal BMs. I would have to eat a whole aisle of fiber bars to have a normal one. If I eat more than an aisles worth then I get bound up. Honestly I get embarrassed when I use the public restrooms. Sounds like I am pouring a bucket of water in there. Sorry this sounds disgusting but I need help. My doctors just writes me off. This sucks!!

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Sorry this was a funny heading but yeah I can go alot in a days time. In would try to do a competition but would prob lose. Lol