Dangguijakyak-san and Shihogyeji-tang

[wanttosleep]

This article about RLS was posted on mercola.com today. It includes a discussion on non-drug therapies and mentions Dangguijakyak-san and Shihogyeji-tang, traditional herbal medicines in East Asian medicine. I wonder if anybody here have tried these and what their experience was with them.

articles.mercola.com/sites/...

[Madlegs1]

Mercola and Hogwash have a certain affinity.

[wanttosleep in reply to Madlegs1]

I like to keep an open mind. I had not heard of these two medicines before reading his article. Bringing it into the public forum may ultimately lead to more investigation and clinical trials. If it leads to a better, safer medication, I for one, would be very grateful.

[DicCarlson in reply to wanttosleep]

I looked those Chinese herbs up on amazon and read reviews - none mentioned RLS, and many found them causing loose stools or diarrhea. The active ingredient is Paeoniae Radix - mostly used by people with Sjogren Syndrome or Rheumatoid Arthritis. Mode of action MIGHT have some effect on dopamine. This is the only supplement I found (search on Amazon for additional reviews).

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[SueJohnson in reply to Madlegs1]

My 2nd laugh for the day! 🤣🤣🤣

[wanttosleep in reply to SueJohnson]

I fail to see what is so funny to you. I posted to this forum with the best of intentions, mostly to be met with ridicule. I won't make that mistake again.

[SueJohnson in reply to wanttosleep]

I was laughing at Madlegs comment. I wasn't saying I agreed with her and I have no opinion on the herbs. I'm sorry you felt ridiculed. Absolutely post what you find as it may help others and ignore the naysayers.

[amrob123]

If this case study can be relied on, it sounds like a miracle cure!

The subject went from 2 hours to 9 hours sleep per night.

khu.elsevierpure.com/en/pub...

It seems like it's also used for epilepsy.

[Eryl in reply to amrob123]

Have you ever heard of the saying "If it seems to be too good to be true, it probably is."?

[wanttosleep in reply to Eryl]

Of course we all have heard that truism. However, with so many suffering so badly, I think all possibilities warrant further investigation, especially the ones that report such good outcomes.

[Eryl in reply to wanttosleep]

Is there a scientific explnation as to why it should work? I've found relief by taking inflammatory foods out of my diet more than adding things in.

[amrob123 in reply to Eryl]

That's why I prefaced my comment with "If the case study can be relied on".

[nocturne]

The link wouldn't load unless I consented to some other ad site.

[Madlegs1 in reply to nocturne]

Exactly. Snake oil.

[wanttosleep in reply to nocturne]

Try the link that Amrob123 gave. It takes you directly to the study published by the College of Korean Medicine, Seoul Campus.

[Jumpey]

I can't comment on those particular herbs because I don't know the names of the herbs I was given.But I consulted a herbalist years ago. Separate I tried traditional British herbs and Chinese herbs for months to no avail.

[wanttosleep]

A systematic review and meta-analysis of Paeoniae Radix-containing herbal medicine for patients with restless legs syndrome (published in the journal Complementary Therapies in Clinical Practice, 2019) says:

"Paeoniae Radix-containing herbal group revealed statistically significant improvements compared with non-herbal group.

Treatments with Paeoniae Radix-containing herbal medicine may promote improvements in RLS without side effects.

However, we are unable to draw concrete conclusions owing to limitations of the included studies."

sciencedirect.com/science/a...

Hopefully this will lead to further, better studies. Let the rigour of scientific study determine if it can be an effective treatment for RLS without harmful side effects.

[nocturne in reply to wanttosleep]

Thanks for the link!

[Claribelle]

Thanks so much for this link.

I had read the original Korean report years some years ago and have ever since intended to consult a Chinese herbal medicine practitioner to see if I can try these herbs. Your post has reminded me and I shall definitely pursue this in the new year.

On this occasion I say ‘thanks Mercola’.

[MrCrow]

There's some evidence of the effectiveness of White Peony root in treating RLS. It's got the same active ingredient as the mentioned medicines afaik (do verify this yourself).