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Something to think about and research.

The Biomat is an FDA medical device (NOT APPROVED FOR CANCER TREATMENT)that combines state of the art far infrared light and negative Ion technology with the healing power of Amethyst (The healing stones) crystal. The mat heats to 113 degrees, which helps damage and kill cancer cells with little or no harm to normal tissue. It also increases the production of natural killer cells and lymphocytes that reduce fatigue and relieves pain. I researched Thermal Therapy for Cancer. Interesting. I do not know where to purchase one but I'm sure the internet sells them.

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From member GI448

Fact checks and warningsFact check: 

 Biomat is ONLY FDA approved for the following: temporary relief from minor spasms, minor sprains , minor strains, minor joint pain associated with arthritis, minor muscle pain and more.There is NO MENTION of using it as thermal  treatment for killing cancer.Fact Check:  cancer.gov does speak of FDA approved thermal treatments for some cancers. Thermal treatment is only approved using special medical equipment operated by medical professionals in a small number of clinics or treatment centers. There is NO HOME METHOD of thermal treatment approved, including hot showers, hot tubs, heating pads, soldering irons, or steam rooms/saunas. Thermal treatment requires prolonged direct exposure to temps up to 113°. Temps over 104° in hot tubs and baths is dangerous and temps approaching 120° can scald skin. Please don’t waste your money on expensive devices that aren’t approved for cancer treatment because some semi-anonymous forum members somehow connected that device to medically-supervised professional treatments with actual medical equipment.At best you’ll be out some money, at worst you might injure yourself. 

From member geoffnolongeras

First the biomat is not an "FDA medical device". The FDA does not create or manufacture any medical devices.Among its other responsibilities, the FDA does classify and monitor medical devices. From the FDA (and other) website:The FDA has 3 classifications for medical devices. Class III is the most restrictive. It includes implantable devices such as pacemakers etc. The FDA requires the manufacturer to provide testing data on the safety and efficacy of the device proving the benefits out way the risks. The other classes (II and I) the FDA does not necessarily require efficacy testing. In many cases all that is required is to show the device benefits out way the risks, and easy bar to cross. To show the "safety" of the device the manufacturer may only need to show the device is similar to another device and has the same safety as the similar device. For the biomat it may be possible that it could be compared to a heating pad.I assume the poster meant to state "FDA approved device" as opposed to "FDA medical device". The phrase "FDA approved" however for Class II and I devices in most cases simply means that it does more good than harm and can be satisfied by comparison to similar devices already on the market, say a heating pad.I did find one source for the biomat online. The website did use the phrase FDA approved. The web site included:"The US FDA’s Medical Device 510K indications for use are as follows:Relaxation of musclesIncrease of local circulation where applied"You can receive the same benefits with a heating pad. The website did not mention anything about cancer that I could find. The top end price was just under $2,000. There was a smaller version for $780.

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LOL!!

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jdm3 in reply to Tall_Allen

We are excited for your contribution, please have a look at our community guidelines:

Be kind, respectful, and understanding of one another

Post from your own experience

Do not post member-to-member personal or direct challenges or attacks.

Tall_Allen: I always appreciate your posts, your breadth and depth of knowledge, and your willingness to help others.... but could you please restrain from being so sarcastic and negative about anything that is not SOC or in your playbook. This is just one example. You (or me) have no way of knowing whether the Biomat will be beneficial or not. It will vary by individual juts like many traditional and non-traditional treatments. Even if it is just the placebo effect and provides psychological and emotional comfort (hope?), that is part of healing process. If a member here is about to do something dumb and harmful (like inject bleach into their bodies or take rat poison), then we should respectfully suggest they reconsider. Otherwise, let's be civil and allow folks to bring ideas to the forums without fear of ridicule. Thanks.

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Gl448 in reply to jdm3

Some posts deserve to be called out.

This forum is starting to choke with clutter from people who don’t even have cancer. They’re pushing unproven supplements, magic foods, spiritual healing, misquoted “inspirational“, false claims of a “working cure for cancer”, and magic healing rocks.

I think even the QOL posts don’t belong here, but a separate section for them would be fine.

All those non-SOC or non-valid-clinical-trial posts and topics might have value for some, but it would sure be nice to see some subtopic forum sections they could go into or some tools to filter out quackery and off-the-wall new age or naturopathy posts that those of us looking for less out of the box discussions could avoid and those interested in such things could go to.

And the ability to block posts from those you find most egregious would be a “blessing”.

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Tall_Allen in reply to jdm3

Thanks for taking the time to write, and your thoughtful words.There is evidence now that people who pursue such complementary treatments die sooner. Perhaps they are not as rigorous about their real treatments:

prostatecancer.news/2018/07...

The placebo effect is real, and the Internet is full of naturopaths, shamans, homeopaths, and crystal gazers, not to mention pseudoscientists, who advocate such wacky treatments. Perhaps they help some, perhaps they hurt many. You are free to listen to them - who's stopping you?

If you are offended by my laughing at amethyst as a treatment for cancer (which is not even pseudoscientific - it's just plain wacky), I suggest you report me to the moderators, because I will continue to do so. I do not just advocate for SOC (I often recommend clinical trials), but I do stick up for science. In this age of "alternate facts," it has become increasingly important to do so. You are free to ignore me- in fact, I suggest you write to HealthUnlocked and ask for an "ignore button."

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jdm3 in reply to Tall_Allen

Understood. Thanks.

I am not offended and agree that science, clinical trials, and proven treatments should be prioritized and not ignored at the expense of alternate treatments. I simply thought your response was rude and unnecessary (one man's opinion). If others want to post alternate ideas, so be it. We are all free to ignore anything and everything, though we might miss something valuable. I'll leave it to the moderator to decide what is "clutter" and what isn't, since I am neither knowledgeable or concerned enough to make an informed decision on many of these topics.

Enjoy the day.

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I believe Lrv44221 means well. Nothing wrong with reading about outside of the box theories. But, no one here should bet their life on infrared light and Amethyst crystals before talking to your doctor

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Lrv44221 in reply to Darryl

yes Darryl I agree. I would advise using the mat along with what our urologist and oncologist suggest. not as an only remedy

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Gl448

LMAO

Please stop.

Please.

By the way what kind of cancer do/did you have?

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BB_1

Interesting. I look into it. Some are costly. For one..... it will not hurt or harm you like the many drugs the docs prescribe.

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Lrv44221 in reply to BB_1

yes you’re absolutely correct

It won’t hurt you like so many other things can

I understand it really helps people sleep and also pain

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Gl448 in reply to Lrv44221

What makes you think it will treat prostate cancer?

What kind of cancer do you have?

Will you buy one of these $1900 devices to treat yourself?

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Gl448

Fact checks and warnings

Fact check:  Biomat is ONLY FDA approved for the following: temporary relief from minor spasms, minor sprains , minor strains, minor joint pain associated with arthritis, minor muscle pain and more.

There is NO MENTION of using it as thermal  treatment for killing cancer.

Fact Check:  cancer.gov does speak of FDA approved thermal treatments for some cancers. 

Thermal treatment is only approved using special medical equipment operated by medical professionals in a small number of clinics or treatment centers. 

There is NO HOME METHOD of thermal treatment approved, including hot showers, hot tubs, heating pads, soldering irons, or steam rooms/saunas. 

Thermal treatment requires prolonged direct exposure to temps up to 113°. Temps over 104° in hot tubs and baths is dangerous and temps approaching 120° can scald skin. 

Please don’t waste your money on expensive devices that aren’t approved for cancer treatment because some semi-anonymous forum members somehow connected that device to medically-supervised professional treatments with actual medical equipment.

At best you’ll be out some money, at worst you might injure yourself. 

sista, I knew you were cruzen for a bruzin on that one! Save your self next time but think about this…. Incurable, doesn’t mean healing is not possible, it simply means there is not a drug that reverses the condition. ❤️ There are doctors, that recommend infra red saunas, don’t know about the crystals though!

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GeoffNoLongerAS

First the biomat is not an "FDA medical device". The FDA does not create or manufacture any medical devices.

Among its other responsibilities, the FDA does classify and monitor medical devices. From the FDA (and other) website:

The FDA has 3 classifications for medical devices. Class III is the most restrictive. It includes implantable devices such as pacemakers etc. The FDA requires the manufacturer to provide testing data on the safety and efficacy of the device proving the benefits out way the risks.

The other classes (II and I) the FDA does not necessarily require efficacy testing. In many cases all that is required is to show the device benefits out way the risks, and easy bar to cross. To show the "safety" of the device the manufacturer may only need to show the device is similar to another device and has the same safety as the similar device. For the biomat it may be possible that it could be compared to a heating pad.

I assume the poster meant to state "FDA approved device" as opposed to "FDA medical device". The phrase "FDA approved" however for Class II and I devices in most cases simply means that it does more good than harm and can be satisfied by comparison to similar devices already on the market, say a heating pad.

I did find one source for the biomat online. The website did use the phrase FDA approved. The web site included:

"The US FDA’s Medical Device 510K indications for use are as follows:

Relaxation of muscles

Increase of local circulation where applied"

You can receive the same benefits with a heating pad. The website did not mention anything about cancer that I could find.

The top end price was just under $2,000. There was a smaller version for $780.

Infared heat is very good . I have a infared sauna prescribed by my Nat doc. An infared sauna is a basic in naturalpathic medicine . Heat melts pains away . My doc says that it practically impossible to have a heart event while inside a infared sauna . Toxins are sweated out too which is also a benefit . If it feels good ? Do it! Good luck!

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thanks so much I agree sometimes I can go I a infrared at my health club

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my Dr. Michael Uzick in Tuc az is a naturalpathic ncologist . One of only 100 in the USA . He saved my life ..he says anything to feel better is ok . I’ve recently taken magnesium flake 102 baths a home . It helps all joint pains melt for many days afterwards . Good luck . Go infared anything . I’d love to have one of those pads .

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I’d like a BIOMAT also.they are pretty pricey, so I’m going to continue to use the infra red spa at my health club

Till I get tired of spending the money to drive there lol

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Yep! They can cost thousands, even used on craiglist!