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Hi all,

Another disturbed night - restless legs driving me insane. I get a horrible tingling sensation in my legs and cannot keep them still. I’m not overweight, get plenty of exercise, practice yoga, don’t have caffeine at all and only the occasional glass of wine at the weekend. Is this associated with PMR or is it a side effect of pred? I was offered amytriptyline, but not really keen to take any more medication on top of the pred, lefluminide, alendronic acid and a statin.

Any advice much appreciated by myself and my marriage!!!

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PMRpro profile image
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Restless legs can happen with and without PMR or pred and none of your medications are associated with RLS.

However, research suggests some forms of RLS can be due to magnesium deficiency and that isn't uncommon with pred. It is probably worth trying magnesium supplements or foot baths with Epsom salts before bed. There are also sprays and oils for topical application.

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artisam in reply toPMRpro

Thank you, I had heard that before. If taking the supplement, does it make any difference the time of day you take it. I have a vague recollection of reading that taking magnesium at night aids sleep, but I may have made that up or be confusing it with something else🙄

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PMRproAmbassador in reply toartisam

Magnesium is said to help with sleep. yes. Other than that, not sure if timing makes a lot of difference.

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Plenty of related posts to view now you’ve asked…

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artisam

Yes, I noticed and have been reading, thank you. Lots of useful things to try.

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply toartisam

Trouble is you have to post before you can see them… the search facility is a bit tenuous at the best of times… so probably quicker and easier to do as you did….

Hope we can help your marriage 🤣😂

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artisam

here’s hoping😂

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Kendrew

Hi artisam,

I suffered quite regularly with restless legs both in an evening when sat on sofa and during the night.

You've already received good advice regarding magnesium.

I personally didn't take a magnesium supplement but I did (and still do) soak in an Epsom salts bath at least 3 times a week. I put a lot more salt than the recommended one cupful in my bath though and soak for at least 20mins, but often longer. This definitely seemed to help ease my discomfort.

I also make sure my bedroom is a cool temperature. If it's too warm, the sensation feels far worse.

I don't seem to experience this problem too much now thankfully but on the occasions when the restless legs were at their worst, I used to find just letting a cold shower run over my lower legs for a few mins would really reduce the restless, fidgety sensations.

Green lipped mussel gel (correct spelling of mussel, and, yes, I know, it doesn't sound too great) really helped too.

It comes in a tube and if googled can be easily found. It can be bought online or from a well known high street UK pharmacy, and a well known UK health food/supplement shop.

I'm currently on 2mg of prednisolone and haven't really experienced this problem for some time now.

Hope this helps you together with all the other advice, to work out a plan that works for you.

All the best and fingers crossed.🤞

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artisam in reply toKendrew

Thank you so much, that gives me hope for sure. I do enjoy a soak, so I’ll definitely be trying the Epsom salts. Our bedroom is always unheated, even in the depths of winter, but my body seems to think otherwise😂 I’ll look into the green lipped mussel gel; something has to work.

Thanks again, keep well😄

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nottowell

I take gabapentin an hour before bed and all is good

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artisam

Prescribed I presume. I’m a bit reluctant to add more medication to the mix, but if it gets much worse I may have to. Rheumy prescribed amytriptylin, but I haven’t taken him up on it yet.

Glad all is working for you, thank you for your reply.

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Pixix

I had dreadful problems with RLS. I tried magnesium, & it helped a lot. However, I have a total of 11 named diseases now, &, for one of them, it was suggested, by GP & rheumy, that I try amitryptylline as a muscle relaxant. I take it about 7pm…if I take it when I go to bed I am too drowsy in the morning. I had 4 years of only having 3 hours sleep per night & was completely drained. The amitryptylline helps me to be able to go to sleep. I still wake at 2am, but with no restless leg syndrome. Hope this helps a little.

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artisam

Thank you. I will consider the amitriptyline if magnesium doesn’t work, but I had heard it makes you drowsy in the morning. Disturbed sleep is really messing with my days as generally I am such an active person and I just feel so lethargic - I hate that as much as the pain!

Thanks again for your input; it has helped.

Keep well xx

Skittles75 profile image
Skittles75

Magnesium cream rubbed into legs and feet before bed completely cured my restless legs. I couldn't believe it would work but it did!

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artisam in reply toSkittles75

Wow, sounds brilliant. What make did you use?

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Skittles75 in reply toartisam

BetterYou Magnesium Body Butter

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artisam in reply toSkittles75

Thanks I’ll look into it. Thank you

AtopicGuy profile image
AtopicGuy

I found this anecdotal quote on the HealthUnlocked Restless Legs Syndrome forum:

"Statins are known by members of this forum to trigger/exacerbate RLS, although the NHS doesn’t formally recognise this."

healthunlocked.com/rlsuk/po...

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artisam in reply toAtopicGuy

mmm that’s interesting. Also interesting that there is a RLS forum!! I could have looked there in the first place😂. I know now, thank you.

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Mgt1234

Hi, I’ve suffered with RLS for many years. My GP had read a number of articles which recommended treating with Iron supplements. After completing blood tests I am currently taking two ferrous 200mg daily. Initially they helped extremely well, however, now I do have episodes recurring but it’s worth a chat to your GP. Good luck x

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artisam

Thank you. I'm really hoping magnesium will help, but if not I think you are right- a trip to the GP is in order. So hard to see one these days.I appreciate you replying and hope you find relief too.

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Paulx222 in reply toartisam

Hi

Have been struggling with jerks and fasciculations which started shortly after starting pred.

My Rheumatologist saw a video of my twitches and sent me for a EMG and ordered a CK blood test which came back fine.

No idea what to do next but if you do get any answers, please let me know!

I'm booking in to see my GP tomorrow as I'm not convinced that for myself this is a purely pred issue......

I could be wrong, I hope I am. Who knows but these symtoms are driving me crazy!

Good luck getting to the bottom of it 🙂

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artisam in reply toPaulx222

Not sure what is causing mine, but I tried a magnesium spray last night which stung like crazy -a possible sign that the body’s cellular magnesium is low. I could still feel the slight fizzy sensation in my legs but no twitching! I’m taking a magnesium supplement before bedtime too, so we’ll see what happens. Time will tell; it has only been one night, so I’m trying not to get too excited. I also need to relate it to how much I have been on my feet during the day; there may be a correlation there.

Good luck with your GP visit, it really does drive you insane doesn’t it.

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Paulx222 in reply toartisam

Wow. That's really positive!!

Good luck with it. Hope it resolves

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Holidaytime89

I’ve suffered with RLS for years - it’s much worse now that I also have PMR and have to take steroids. My GP was never really interested in it - but I figured out myself that low magnesium was the culprit and fortunately a teaspoon of magnesium citrate powder (can be ordered online or from a health food shop) in water makes the RLS go away instantly. I often have to get out of bed in the early hours to take some if I’ve forgotten it for a few days. Magnesium supplements- which I had also tried - did not work for me for some reason.

I try to tell as many RLS suffers as I can about this as it may work for them too.

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artisam in reply toHolidaytime89

That’s really interesting to know, thank you. Magnesium supplements are helping me a lot, but I will certainly bear this in mind next time I have a bad episode. It’s so good to hear other people’s successes; they really can be a godsend sometimes can’t they? That's why this forum is so important. Thank you again and wishing you well.

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