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Upped Pred but Have I Overdone it?

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I have no doubt foolishly carried on the same level of pred, even dropping (and failing) down to 9mg for a day), after my husband's death in June and subsequent clearing the house (filled with books, clutter, you name it!), looking after the garden and the allotment and keeping up with friends. I have been feeling on the edge of pred's capacity to mop up the inflammation f or some months. Recently I have been experiencing increasing stiffness and pain, some surges of what I am describing as histamine reactions (stinging and burning sensations in the whole body, including under the feet and in the mouth). Anyway it got to the extent that I upped the dosage from 10 mg which I usually split 2pm/2am with another 5mg at 4.30am on Monday morning and 5mg at 2pm (remembering advice on the forum about blocking a flare). I did feel worryingly a bit buzzy and emotional but that cleared. Then I took 7gms this 2am. Today since I have been up I have been feeling very revved up and anxious with pain in the central chest. Only reduced with some release of emotion but still present.

I had a chat with a Rheumatology nurse from Bath RUH this am who suggested that I carry on with 12 mgs a day for 6 days and then try and drop slowly.

My stiffness has reduced though I have felt pain deep in my arms which seems to have moved down from the shoulders. Does PMR do this??? A likely rheumatoid knuckle on the index finger seems to look less swollen.

My main question is this. If the adrenals are being really pushed and one starts feeling incredibly anxious and over emotional does this correlate with an overdose that is more than required for the dampening down of the inflammation? I often wonder about those who are put on 80mgs for GCA. I would explode!

Additionally I am curious about the histamine reactions and the pain deep in the arms if anyone has any suggestions.

Thank you.

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DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

Yes you have overdone it...and dropping Pred whilst trying to cope with all you have is really a no,no..in fact many would actually require more, rather than less.

.. and not wishing to sound harsh, why on earth have you let this feeling go on so long.. and not come here for advice?

We would have same as RUH nurse, and earlier in the process to boot... and suggested the usual protocol for a flare initially.. so up to 15mg for at least a week, and then back down just above previous dose.

Have to say as someone who was on 80mg - I didn't explode...

Not sure about the histamine feeling, but your shoulders sound very much like PMR complaining and maybe too much gardening.

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Alchemy8 in reply toDorsetLady

Hi DorsetLady

It was so slow so could never say it was a flare. Just getting worse recently. Probably described as bucket syndrome.

Not sure what to do to get rid of the feeling of pressure and anxiety in the mid chest/solar plexus re dosage.

I didn’t ask as I felt the question re what is a flare and how to deal with it had been answered a million times before. And it is so hard to describe what is going on as it changes from hour to hour.

Thank you for responding .

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply toAlchemy8

Never worry about asking a question - whether it’s been asked before… doesn’t matter.. if it’s worrying you, it’s worrying you and you need it addressed.

You are still under a lot of stress, and probably more than you realise… and anything related to bereavement comes and goes - some of us are well aware of that. So please reach out to us, it’s why we’re are here… and re your Pred, take it now…

All the best.🌸

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Alchemy8 in reply toDorsetLady

Thank you DorsetLady for the advice. I think you are right about the stress. Along with unexpressed emotion. Have taken pred. Now for bed!XX

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PMRproAmbassador in reply toAlchemy8

Always ask!!!! Someone will answer. It's why we come here.

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PMRproAmbassador

" Today since I have been up I have been feeling very revved up and anxious with pain in the central chest. "

And you are talking about shoulder and arm pain - please get checked out for a potential cardiac problem. 999 will do if the GP can't see you NOW. In fact, 999 would be better if they have an ambo ...

NO chest pain should be ignored until it is provedn not to be heart-related. Women present very differently from men. I may be over-egging it but better that than having a heart attack and not knowing.

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Alchemy8 in reply toPMRpro

Thanks PMR pro. Could this be caused by the pred?

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PMRproAmbassador in reply toAlchemy8

What? The chest pain? People get chest pain without pred!!! And for all sorts of reasons - but cardiac sources must always be eliminated.

Pred MIGHT cause the anxious feeling but so can a cardiac problem - so get that ruled out. Pred isn't always the culprit.

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Alchemy8

Thanks PMRpro. OK. It started as a result of taking the pred. Anyway have called an ambulance, taken the aspirins. This has happened about three times before since I have had PMR. They’ve found nothing. Will report back.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply toAlchemy8

Well done - and hope it IS nothing. But you can't risk it because the day you do - it turns out to be real!

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Miserere

Hope you're OK, Alchemy8 - do update when you can. Thinking of you!!

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Alchemy8 in reply toMiserere

Bless you! Am still waiting!!xx

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Alchemy8 in reply toMiserere

Just been checked out at home. No sign of MI and I seem pretty compos re stroke. They have suggested going to the hospital to check if there was historical MI but have declined as the waiting is 10 hours which would add to the stress levels plus the possibility of infections. They are contacting my local duty doctor and will return shortly.

Only thing is that BP is a bit high 175/80 odd. They seem to think it was most likely the pred. Interesting that one of the ambulance men came when my husband had his stroke.

So I am left with what to do about the pred. Should I take my 5gm lunchtime dose which is over due by 3 hours now? Am still experiencing anxiety in the chest area.

Any help gratefully received.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply toAlchemy8

I'd take it, or at least some of it. But that is one thing ruled out. Pred and the situation would account for the BP.

I ended up on first name terms with our local ambo crews - was good, never had to expalin any history,

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Miserere in reply toAlchemy8

I am sure PMRpro's advice is good - it usually is! At least they are contacting your local duty doctor. 175/80 does not seem overly high to me, particularly in the situation in which you find yourself. Had it been me I am sure it would have been much higher. I also think that anxiety is completely understandable. Take care x

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Alchemy8 in reply toAlchemy8

Thank you PMRpro and Miserere. I have taken the 5 mgs and have an appointment with my Dr at 8.45 am!! Feel a bit calmer too which is good. Thank you for keeping a watching brief. Xx

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