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Hi, fellow PMR voyagers - I was on 6.5mg Pred for some time but recently tapered to 5.5mg. I am now experiencing painful arthritis-like symptoms in my toes and hands.

Like many of us, it's difficult to determine whether these pains are from PMR, Prednisolone (devil's tic tacs), tapering, arthritis or just age (71).

Should I increase the Pred?

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated ...

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Purpleazalia profile image
Purpleazalia

Hi Bitey, have you been diagnosed with arthritis? Were hand and toe pains part of your original PMR symptoms? How long have you been on your reduced dose? Might be worth checking in with your doctor about it before increasing pred. The pain from osteoarthritis in my knees returned when I got down to around 10mg pred, luckily for me, it's still mild so I don't need medication for it at present.

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BiteyDelano in reply toPurpleazalia

Hi, thanks for your reply - yes I was dx'd with arthritis previously but it never felt this bad! I tapered slowly from 6.5 to 6 0 and then slowly to 5.5. I'm also getting terrible cramps in my feet. I REALLY don't want to increase the Pred!

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Why did you reduce a whole mg rather than just a half?

It could be OA - but it could be PMR reminding you it is still around - I had hand and foot pain and pred often does make OA feel better.

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BiteyDelano in reply toPMRpro

Hi, thanks for your reply - to be clear, I tapered slowly from 6.5 to 6 0 and then slowly to 5.5. I def had some arthritis before but nothing like this. I'm also getting terrible cramps in my feet.

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PMRproAmbassador in reply toBiteyDelano

Try some magnesium supplements - see if that helps with the cramps. I also had toe cramps with PMR alone and pred can make it worse.

Re the reduction steps - that's good then, just wondered.

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Constance13 in reply toPMRpro

It has certainly helped mine.💥

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

Might be worth trying ordinary painkillers for a few days to see if they help….could be arthritis, and as said by Purpleazalia those pains do return on lower doses……plus as also stated did your PMR manifest itself in those areas pre medication ?

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BiteyDelano in reply toDorsetLady

Thanks for your reply, I've only taken painkillers sporadically and no, the PMR wasn't in my feet etc

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply toBiteyDelano

In that case maybe you should be checked for arthritis... and perhaps try magnesium supplements or Epsom salts bath for feet and hands.

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BiteyDelano in reply toDorsetLady

Epsom salts sound good - I'll try them!

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MrsNails

Hi, I was going to ask the same question as Pro - did you go from 6.5mg ->5.5mg as that is a big drop percentage wise.

Have you tried a simple pain killer such as Paracetamol, as that may ease any OA if present.

And, maybe go back to 6mg & see if it improves, l found whenever l got lower on Pred my old ‘War Wounds’ reappear, old familiar twinges 😖

It’s not easy, is it.

Kind Regards

MrsN

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BiteyDelano in reply toMrsNails

Hi, thanks for your reply - to be clear, I tapered slowly from 6.5 to 6 0 and then slowly to 5.5. I def had some arthritis before but nothing like this. Cocodamol helps a bit. I'm also getting terrible cramps in my feet. Yes, it's not easy (and it's not fun!)

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Exflex

You probably need an X-ray and / or ultrasound to confirm one way or another. I have OA in both knees, the left being worse. I’ve recently had steroidal injection into the soft tissue of the knee joint. Definitely helps, and the steroid load is metabolised within a week leaving the local effects for approx 3 months. At the moment with Covid guidance states only one knee can be done in one sitting. The other after one month.

To summarise I’d start with a GP consultation and X-ray confirmation.

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BiteyDelano in reply toExflex

Thanks for that - incidentally, my right knee occasionally 'gives way' (no pain though)

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Bcol in reply toBiteyDelano

My right knee used to that before my OA diagnosis. You may find a support bandage helps with stopping the giving way. I had a few occasions when I was out shopping, it would give way and I just fell over wherever I was - really embarrassing!!!! I would have only been in my early 30's at the time as well.

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BiteyDelano in reply toBcol

That hasn't happened to me (yet)!

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