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The non dumping diet ?

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Yesterday during a hospital appointment I was asked ( rather too sternly/accusingly) if I was following it .

Well ,I try and limit sugary food and high fibre food .I eat little and often ,try not to take fluids and food at the same time ,eat slowly .

But is there actually a prescribed diet ? Have I missed this ?

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lynnbibb

We were never given any dietry advice and have had to ad lib. I think there is an American diet sheet, but it's mostly common sense.

Somebody told me that he found the Meditteranean way of eating helped his dumping.

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Spikey

I have never heard of a "non-dumping diet". In fact, the dietary advice that I was given by the hospital after my eosophagectomy was quite the opposite. They advised increasing the calorific content of my diet by using full fat milk and adding cream or cheese to mashed potatoes, all of which increases the risk of dumping (and acid reflux). Fortunately, I got independent advice, which advised a non-dairy, low fat, low sugar diet, which I followed and have generally managed to avoid dumping ... except when I stray from it and overindulge.

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Cortex1 in reply to Spikey

How do you maintain weight without fats?

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Spikey in reply to Cortex1

The simple answer is that I haven't. Immediately prior to my surgery, I was 12st. I am now around 10st, and have been for the last eight years. However, I play golf twice a week, go to the gym regularly, and last year completed the Coast to Coast walk, so consider myself reasonably fit. My diet consists mainly of slow release carbohydrates (eg. porridge), spelt bread, rice, eggs, large amounts of fruit and vegetables, pulses and small portions of lean meat (mainly chicken) and fresh fish.

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Im not fit and due to heart probs, breathing not so good,, bread, rice, eggs, fruit veg, is good, i can do al that,,, porridge??? Do u not need milk for this???

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I use soya milk to make my porridge. I also use soya margarine on my spelt bread and eat soya yogurt with my fruit. Sorry to hear you have heart problems and breathing difficulties, as keeping fit was definitely a key to my recovery.

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This is interesting,,, heard or read, suger is not good,,, so ok try not to have suger,,, low fat, thats fine,,,NON DAIRY,, thats a hard one ,,

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brucemillar

Violet

I just checked and yesterday was not April the 1st.

I have never heard of this and suspect that they may be making it up. Like many I received no dietary advice on leaving hospital. I just figured it out myself. I was and am a veggie so may been luckier than some?

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SO JUST VEG?

I think they mean a low GI (GI standing for glycemic index in this context) diet, which is a perfectly reasonable and sensible precaution to follow because low GI means that the sugar is not absorbed so rapidly, and it therefore causes less of an insulin spike. Much of it would be what a diabetic might opt for, and there are factsheets on the OPA website

opa.org.uk/edit/files/facts...

There used to be details of a talk given by Larry Rees some years ago to one of the London meetings that explained this but this seems no longer to be on the website.

I am unclear about the benefits of limiting high fibre food.

I think everyone has to take on a bit of trial and error for themselves. If you find a way of avoiding dumping / insulin spikes and keep up your nutrition you will be doing OK.

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