No, I'm not going to treat you to a lesson about theology, nor am I going to try to convert you to a new religion. I'm simply going to say that whatever junk you deliberately pump into your body is your own responsibility, and that you need to decide for yourself where you draw the limit.
Your body is your temple, not my temple, nor anybody else's temple. Doctors can diagnose and patch up your temple to a degree, but there are limits to what science can do to appease your appetite for self-destruction.
I've always been a proponent of owning your own quit, and even more than ever, today I must say that it is time for individuals to take their own responsibilities in their hands, and fight their way through to success.
Every time you pick up a cigarette and smoke it, you are making your own mark on your future. Nobody else can be held responsible.
Alex.
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No, I'm not going to treat you to a lesson about theology, nor am I going to try to convert you to a new religion. I'm simply going to say that whatever junk you deliberately pump into your body is your own responsibility, and that you need to decide for yourself where you draw the limit.
Your body is your temple, not my temple, nor anybody else's temple. Doctors can diagnose and patch up your temple to a degree, but there are limits to what science can do to appease your appetite for self-destruction.
I've always been a proponent of owning your own quit, and even more than ever, today I must say that it is time for individuals to take their own responsibilities in their hands, and fight their way through to success.
Every time you pick up a cigarette and smoke it, you are making your own mark on your future. Nobody else can be held responsible.
Alex.
Alex your starting to sound like one of them higher than mighty ex smokers :eek: You messed up ur temple for a long time too as well
I'm not a fan of born again smokers nor have I been a fan of this forum in recent weeks due to certain contributors but I have to say that in no way did it sound like Alex was preaching. Tbh it sounded like a common sense ideology that basically says we are responsible for what we do to ourselves - makes sense to me
My body is my temple - I agree with everything you said Alex. I think exactly the same way and yet, despite knowing the dangers of smoking, I still continued to do it until very recently - my excuse used to be that it was my only vice which sounds pretty pathetic really.
As for 'born again' smokers, well if I manage to stay quit I'm afraid I'll probably become one of them.
I know this sounds hypocritical coming from someone who has 'enjoyed' smoking for over 20 years but I absolutely hate the smoking habit - I hate the smell, the damage it does to our health and of course the amount of money it costs us.
But here I am, just three weeks into my quit and hoping I will be able to become one of those people I am so envious of - the ones who have the sense not to smoke.
Alex, I totally agree with you! My body was once completely pure and naturally maintained and then with 'growing up' and discovering many vices... My body became something more of an additive storage unit!!!
I've always been quite a healthy eater but did have a very very sweet tooth when younger, them in my late teens I bumped into (now my ex), Silk - Silk Cut, you might know him, heard he's been around a bit and soon after I became a bit of a wine connasuer...
I now have a very very slight sweet tooth, kicked Silk Cut to the kerb and as for the wine, well Malbec is a 'once a week' friend, if he's lucky!😉
But, all of these things I did/do to myself, nobody forced them upon me but at some point I realised that my temple was slowly becoming a dillapadated building, ridden with squatters and all due to my own demise and self-destruction!
I have many friends/family that smoke, I do not feel that my new found purpose in life is to convert them into my way of thinking... My purpose is to continue to maintain what's left of my temple and help it to heal as much as it possibly can without putting any further pressure on it! And maybe indirectly, these friends/family will see my uprise and feel my strength and determination to make them think 'if she can do it, then may be, just may be, so can I'
What we have to remember is that we are all here for the same reason. We all know we shouldn't be smoking and we're all trying to give up the best way we can.
Alex has managed to achieve this and I, for one, envy him - I know I've still got a long way to go before I will reach the stage he's at but I know I can do it if I just keep remembering why I need to, we all can.
If I do manage to accomplish my quit I'm sure I will become one of those infuriating born again ex smokers because I do think it's a filthy habit even though I have to admit that it's one I used to enjoy and one that's quite difficult to break.
Sometimes it's easy to interpret the things that successful quitters say as criticism instead of advice, probably because when we are quitting we do sometimes feel quite vulnerable. I prefer to find these posts encouraging - we have to remember that these people have all gone through the process of quitting and come out at other end as ex-smokers, as far as I am concerned that's the result we're all aiming for.
This sort of post, though thought provoking, is more likely to make you feel guilty and ashamed.
Smoking is a physically and psychologically addictive, and perfectly legal...
As a smoker who is trying to pluck up the courage to attempt another quit (I’ve stopped smoking 3 times, for 3 years, for 3 months and pathetically, for one week!) this is the sort of disheartening proselytizing which I used to hear from my smoking cessation nurse who smoked a couple of cigarettes when she was 16.
We know we have potentially damaged ourselves. We KNOW this.
What we have to remember is that we are all here for the same reason. We all know we shouldn't be smoking and we're all trying to give up the best way we can.
Alex has managed to achieve this and I, for one, envy him - I know I've still got a long way to go before I will reach the stage he's at but I know I can do it if I just keep remembering why I need to, we all can.
If I do manage to accomplish my quit I'm sure I will become one of those infuriating born again ex smokers because I do think it's a filthy habit even though I have to admit that it's one I used to enjoy and one that's quite difficult to break.
Sometimes it's easy to interpret the things that successful quitters say as criticism instead of advice, probably because when we are quitting we do sometimes feel quite vulnerable. I prefer to find these posts encouraging - we have to remember that these people have all gone through the process of quitting and come out at other end as ex-smokers, as far as I am concerned that's the result we're all aiming for.
Linda
Why would u envy someone who for one u have never met don't no for Adam apart from on here maybe one or twice. Ur doing good with ur own quit me er envy anyone
With no reference to any particular person or persons but in general, it seems to me that there is quite a bit of tension on this forum as of recent!
It's not even a whole month since I've joined and I'm feeling a very cold atmosphere in here.... The reason for me joining was so that I could talk to people going through the same sort of emotions as me (at whatever stage of their quit) and not with people who chose to continue to smoke for the fear of me sounding like I'm preaching to them! Every person's individual experience is hope and determination to those embracing their quit and those struggling!!
But all of a sudden it's become a very judgemental place, where you cannot really express the experiences/reasons of your own quit without the fear that you might be accused of being a 'born again' smoker by someone who has themselves recently given up smoking, no longer a smoker, an ex-smoker????
What exactly is the PC terminology that people prefer to use?
Even when I smoked I hated the lingering smell, the dry foul taste left in my mouth, the stains on my teeth, so I agree with Linda, I'm not going to pretend to 'liking' it now, am I?
Life is hard enough guys, and then learning to cope with your quit makes it that much more harder... So let's not start bickering about trivial things on this forum, defeats the object I think!
We're supposed to support each other in our quit not drive people back to it!!!
I do understand and agree with some of the things you say.
Speaking purely about myself I can admit that, although I was a committed smoker, I did feel guilty and, yes if you like, ashamed about my habit - I still did it though.
I'm only just into week 3 of my quit, I know that's nothing and that I have a massive hill to climb before I can say I've kicked this awful habit but it's something I need to prove that I can do - I can't keep putting it off any longer.
This time I do think I've got the right frame of mind in that I've realised that this is my challenge, only I can do this. Yes I accept that it won't be easy but for all of us giving up smoking is our choice. Noone is making us give up and yes we can just go out and buy cigarettes anytime we want.
I'm finding that thinking about the negative side of smoking (we all know that there isn't a positive one) is helping me through this quit process and, believe me, there have been times when I've needed all the help I could get.
I keep reminding myself that I'm only giving up smoking, that it only takes a few minutes to smoke a cigarette that probably costs me somewhere in the region of 50p and that I'm strong enough to have the courage of my convictions. I hope that this will be the case because I know I have to see this through.
Yes, I agree that this forum sometimes does come across as being a bit 'confrontational' which, since we are all here for the same reason, seems totally unnecessary.
I do envy people who have successfully given up smoking Shelly, I know I don't know anyone personally and that we are all just 'cyber friends' but we have to trust and help one another, that's what this forum is here for.
I do read your posts Shelly and I know you are way ahead of me in terms of your quit, I think you've reached the 4 month point which is fantastic and something I can only hope to look forward to in the future.
Love it Sue!!!😉😝 Think on that note, time for bed and hopefully with that picture in mind, some very sweet dreams !!! 😜😉
We now that some people like the OP, and some don't. That makes for a good debate, and I guess it shows that some people like to be reminded of what they are doing to themselves, whereas others prefer to find other means of encouragement.
For my own part, I don't believe it happens very often (if at all) for people to quit based purely on "Well done's" and "great job's", or "isn't life a bitch without cigarettes" and "we're all in this together" statements.
Somewhere along the line, surely there has to be some self-reflection, no?
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