The Antifag has CRACKED!!!

After months of vigilence and arriving at a comfortable and confident place i can honestly say i have CRACKED.

When i drink i have found a new way of smoking without buying cigarettes..

The antifag has found he can buy a cigar from the bar for 90p.

I have smoked a few on weekends when i drink and now have started buying singles from my local newsagent every couple of days and smoking with a bottle of wine.

I think i am at the stage where i can curb it but need a hell of a lot of mental strength as i find i no longer need to smoke during the day but fancy a smoke in the evening or when i'm drinking, i also find i can have a couple of drags of a cigar then let it go out and pick it up 30 mins later.

I need help!

People please help me, make me stop, i am starting to crave again and need to stop this NOW!

I need you guys BADLY.

HELP ME

One thing i have noticed... the cravings are a bitch, my heart has been erratic, i can actually feel it beating in my chest and a lot fatser then it has these past few months smoke free, my mentality has changed and i amallowing nicotine back in my life, i am afraid it will take a hold again and do not want it back in my life but it feels sooo good having a drag!!

all replies welcome and necessary!!!!!

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  • Maybe quit drinking for awhile,it may help.Sorry to see you have caved after so long .Good luck to you whatever you decide,but I hope it is to quit smoking..Not One Puff

  • Hi there,

    I see the nicodemon has caught you with the old "Have the odd cigar here and there its not really smoking" lie. Been there bought the T-shirt.:(

    You need to treat this as a fresh quit, start again and never take another puff.

    It is the only way, you can't get back to the time when you had just started when you were not addicted. If you have the odd one here and there you are almost guaranteed to end up smoking regularly.

    Best of luck with it.

    Nic

  • Hi! i'm a newbie to this but stop panicking! the fact that you have realised its getting out of control and was a bad choice to make, is a great step, just remember that YOU are in control of your body, not nicotine and you are better without it.....so like the other guys say.....NEVER ANOTHER PUFF!!!!!!!! hope you make the best decision and stop for good xx

  • Hey m8 don't worry.

    I've been there, I know what it's like. I have just re-started my quit 2day, but don't let that put u off - just think about ur health and bank balance, they are getting healthier everyday, coz uv kept off the fags!!

    You can do it, m8, we r all with u :)

  • Hey Antifag

    It looks like you lost a bit of FOCUS and as Nic said, thought the odd cigar wouldn't hurt.

    To be cruel to be kind....you have now found out the hard way that the odd cigar does hurt and that the only TRUE way to freedom is to NEVER take another puff of anything!!!!

    Get your ass on to whyquit immediately and read EVERY page on relapsing.

    Also, well done for realising so quickly that you are back on a very slippery slope.

    NOW is the time to do something about it.

    Oh and finally, read some of your old posts, from around the 8-12 day mark and realise how much anguish you were in due to nicotine withdrawal.

    Now tell me, do you really want to go through that again?

    Good Luck this time Antifag.

    Be Strong

  • Really sorry to hear you've been struggling but it seems to be the norm in the latter stages, I think we have all done it but get focused again and start all over again, hopefully it wont be very hard but one puff is one puff too many!

    Good luck and I agree with John, read back on your first posts it just aint worth the hassle all over again.

  • After months of vigilence and arriving at a comfortable and confident place i can honestly say i have CRACKED.

    When i drink i have found a new way of smoking without buying cigarettes..

    The antifag has found he can buy a cigar from the bar for 90p.

    I have smoked a few on weekends when i drink and now have started buying singles from my local newsagent every couple of days and smoking with a bottle of wine.

    I think i am at the stage where i can curb it but need a hell of a lot of mental strength as i find i no longer need to smoke during the day but fancy a smoke in the evening or when i'm drinking, i also find i can have a couple of drags of a cigar then let it go out and pick it up 30 mins later.

    I need help!

    People please help me, make me stop, i am starting to crave again and need to stop this NOW!

    I need you guys BADLY.

    HELP ME

    One thing i have noticed... the cravings are a bitch, my heart has been erratic, i can actually feel it beating in my chest and a lot fatser then it has these past few months smoke free, my mentality has changed and i amallowing nicotine back in my life, i am afraid it will take a hold again and do not want it back in my life but it feels sooo good having a drag!!

    all replies welcome and necessary!!!!!

    Hi Antifag, I'm really sorry to read of your plight, I know it's a bitch but the times you are using the cigars are the times you should be occupying yourself in other ways, even something daft like ironing a shirt has worked for me. My past attempts nearly always ended with the 'I'll just have a cigar' syndrome and saw me back on the roll-ups before long.

    There are 2 main reasons why your heart is beating faster. Firstly, I think you feel guilt and anxiety over your relapse, just remind yourself you are only human like every other nicotine addict. And secondly, you've went so long without introducing nicotine into your vascular system on an hourly basis and now that you have it is doing it's job as a stimulant, therefore causing your heart to beat faster. These 2 factors combined can make you feel these palpitations quite prominently. I hope this helps mate. I have been on Champix tabs which is maybe worth speaking to your Doc about as they help take the edge off these nasty cravings. And yes!! Lay off any booze which is a definite catalyst to smoke. Keep the faith mate.

  • Oh, for Ef's sake - I do not believe this!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

    You of all people should have known where "Just one puff" can lead???????:confused:

    Get your ass back in gear and follow your own links and get back with the programme pronto ok?????

    (*walks away shaking head in total utter disbelief :confused::rolleyes:)

  • Oh, for Ef's sake - I do not believe this!!!!!!!!!!

    You of all people should have known where "Just one puff" can lead???????:confused:

    Get your ass back in gear and follow your own links and get back with the programme pronto ok?????

    (*walks away shaking head in total utter disbelief :confused::rolleyes:)

    Barb showing her "sympathetic" side!!! :D

    PMSL

    consider your Arse well and truly skelped Antifag!!!!

  • Hi Antfag

    OMG I thought I was the only stupid one you never. But Im also back on day 3 after just over 8 months. I Only smoked for a short time. So get back to it Soon as be for it gets a real big hold only we can do it. xxxx

  • Barb showing her "sympathetic" side!!! :D

    PMSL

    consider your Arse well and truly skelped Antifag!!!!

    nothing like a good old fashioned bollocking and a reality check......:D

    Good luck antifag this time :)

  • Bloody hell we are dropping like flies - who else?

  • Bloody hell we are dropping like flies - who else?

    Errrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmm -hello (peeks round door sheepishly). Thought I might pop in to say hi and to wish Antifag and Jojo all the best in stopping this nasty habit. I know only too well how old nic can get a hold of you again.:mad: Am off to see nursey next Tuesday to see if she will put me on Champix (although I have heard some things about them when I mentioned it to people - like depression, nauseousness, etc). Not doing too well CT (even reading Allan Carr John - although I must admit he does talk sense and I will keep reading it).

    Wish me luck all coz Im going to need it I think. See you all next week hopefully.xxxxx

    PS - I was informed that you smoke during the first week of taking Champix but had to stop thereafter - is this correct. I am sure nursey will enlighten me but wanted to have some information before going. Any replies gratefully received:)

  • Hi Jan

    good to see you again.

    I hope you get off to a good start next week and you manage to get it right this time.

    remember to get on to whyquit as well....Joels wee videos are really good.

  • Hi Jan

    good to see you again.

    I hope you get off to a good start next week and you manage to get it right this time.

    remember to get on to whyquit as well....Joels wee videos are really good.

    Thanks John - got a laptop at home now so will be able to look at those sites then - can't do it at work. See you soon xxx

  • Champix

    Hi Jan,

    I didn't use it myself, but I recall that you're right...the clinic group nurse did supply it and then people took it while smoking for the first week...

    All the best. For what it's worth, I think it's a lot easier after a slip than the original horrid first few days,,has been for me, anyway (I'm about two weeks in)

    Bill X

  • Antifag stop now!!!!!!

    And Antifag,

    Just take a pace back, take yourself in hand and make the decision to stop the mallarcky (now there's a word). Sounds like you're panicking a bit!

    Remember NO_ONE and NOTHING can force you to smoke.

    Short of being put in a straight jacket like one of those poor beagles (what do us humans do to others, huh??).

    So get the distance and the calm you need to see your way through to another stop...whatever you call it.

    You're indulging in old-style junkie thinking...and you know it's the ANTICIPATION of the cigar that's pulling you. No experience of smoking as such is pleasurable by an innocent body and mind.

    You know this! Go do what you have to to kick this out of your life NOW!!!

    Bill :(

  • I was informed that you smoke during the first week of taking Champix but had to stop thereafter - is this correct I am sure nursey will enlighten me but wanted to have some information before going. Any replies gratefully received:)

    Hello Jan me auld pal ! Champix comes with all instructions - from memory they recommend you stop between day 9 and 14 (or something like that) of starting taking the tablets. I'm sure I stopped day 10, but hardly smoked any on days 8 and 9 as I was starting to feel queasy every time I lit up.

    I didn't have many side effects, farted a lot though, but that may have been the frozen grapes :rolleyes:

    Get yer heid in gear too Jan, you know[/I] it makes sense!

  • Antifag! Cigars?? Dear God man, back to reading literature and nagging other people to stop. You know you don't need those things to enjoy yourself, as already advised, quit the bloody drinking for a while!

    Get back on the wagon and we'll say no more about it :rolleyes:

  • Hey guys...

    thanks soooo much for the replies, this site again and again proves to be the place to come for anyone at any time.

    I love you guys.

    looks like i'm back here a while, get through it together again.

    sorry i been missing.

    i am actually feeling cravings again and hate it sooo much.. you guys are correct time to control it now, no way want to go through the hell anguish nasty wanting disgustingly demoralizing pain i went through to quit first time.

    i forgot my own moto for a second.. NO RETREAT NO SURRENDER, I smoked 2 cigars and a cigarette today.

    i am going to stop it NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    i love you all.

  • Good attitude antifag....................now just get on and quit!!:)

  • The antifag is not done yet, it is a relapse, i have cracked i need everyone in this message board and will be there for you.

    no more for me

    NO MORE

    NO RETREAT

    NO SURRENDER

    I am coming back, i feel a strength from deep within, the source is this message board.. going out to everyone on here.. you are and always have been my no1 support.

    always there

    whenever i want

    whenever i need

    thank you all soooooooo much!!

  • Good attitude antifag....................now just get on and quit!!:)

    Thanks bruv

    this drug is a bastard!!

  • I'm going to let you all into a little secret.

    The antifag has taken speed, marijuana, cocaine, ecstacy A LOT in his life and left it alllllllllllllll alone NOW!!!

    by far this slag bitch of a drug is the worst, reason there is NO restriction, you see people smoking alll the time!!!!

    when i beat this one for good I WILL BE FREE, i WANT TO BE FREE.

    This is why nicotine is the worst nastiest deadliest life threatening, life constricting drug in the world - it is foooking legal!!!

    NO RETREAT NO SURRENDER

    I am coming back guys

    enufffffff respect to this forum

    loads of respect to all that post we are here together one goal, one life!

  • I'm going to let you all into a little secret.

    The antifag has taken speed, marijuana, cocaine, ecstacy A LOT in his life and left it alllllllllllllll alone NOW!!!

    by far this slag bitch of a drug is the worst, reason there is NO restriction, you see people smoking alll the time!!!!

    when i beat this one for good I WILL BE FREE, i WANT TO BE FREE.

    This is why nicotine is the worst nastiest deadliest life threatening, life constricting drug in the world - it is foooking legal!!!

    NO RETREAT NO SURRENDER

    I am coming back guys

    enufffffff respect to this forum

    loads of respect to all that post we are here together one goal, one life!

    I think you have summed it up my friend, we all have one goal here and its the support we all give each other that makes it kinda special..........

    Stay strong and you will succeed :)

  • We are all here for each other so get back on the ship before it gets hard to quit again. If you know what I mean. xxx

  • Hello Jan me auld pal ! Champix comes with all instructions - from memory they recommend you stop between day 9 and 14 (or something like that) of starting taking the tablets. I'm sure I stopped day 10, but hardly smoked any on days 8 and 9 as I was starting to feel queasy every time I lit up.

    I didn't have many side effects, farted a lot though, but that may have been the frozen grapes :rolleyes:

    Get yer heid in gear too Jan, you know[/I] it makes sense!

    OMG - I have bad enuff wind anyway so other half is in for a jolly time ain't he:D:D

    How you doing Barb - nice to speak to you again.

    Apologies to Antifag - I think I've done the unforgivable and stolen his thread. Sorry. ;)

    Anyway, Anti let's get back on track together and win this war. Roll on Tuesday!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Hi Jan, you will find that champix just takes you over and you forget to smoke, any thoughts of a cig go very quickly, when you do smoke you don't get the nicotine 'rush' and put the cig out half way thru until you just can't be bothered to light one cos it's giving you no satisfaction -but your brain is happy with that.

    It will take up to 2 weeks for the full effect to be felt, then just pick a day to try without a cig (they just become stupid 'habit' ones) and you will find it's pretty easy to go without. Some folk take longer than 2 weeks, some less it depends how you feel.

    It is a wonder drug-for me anyway.

  • Hi Jan, you will find that champix just takes you over and you forget to smoke, any thoughts of a cig go very quickly, when you do smoke you don't get the nicotine 'rush' and put the cig out half way thru until you just can't be bothered to light one cos it's giving you no satisfaction -but your brain is happy with that.

    It will take up to 2 weeks for the full effect to be felt, then just pick a day to try without a cig (they just become stupid 'habit' ones) and you will find it's pretty easy to go without. Some folk take longer than 2 weeks, some less it depends how you feel.

    It is a wonder drug-for me anyway.

    Thanks Pammy - I'm looking forward to next week and yet at the same time I'm nervous about it. 'Spect I shall say what was all the fuss about in three weeks time. See you Tuesday all.

  • So Antifag,

    Where are we at now?

    Have you still been on the tobacco?

    Let us know.

    Cheers

    Nic

  • what i found was i was falling under nico's spell and started sort of wanting to smoke the next day after having a couple when binge drinking.

    I have stopped drinking an no longer want to smoke.

    i am still free..

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