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Good morning. I have a question, please ? If you are entitled to PIP does it affect the UC cap limit of 16K? Based on my research it doesn’t.

Also, is the PIP maximum duration of 4 weeks holidays outside the UK in any 1 year or is it any 1 trip?

Thank you. Have a good day.

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parasiticworm

you can only leave the country for maximum of 4 weeks at a time but you can go on multiple 4 weeks holidays during the year. Most holidays abroad I have been on is 4 in a year. I’m on pip and esa and this wasn’t a problem. I have a deputy at social services and it wasn’t a problem with him too.

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Barbado in reply toparasiticworm

Thank you.

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DrSarahmac in reply toparasiticworm

My daughter gets UC with LWRA and also PIP. The two are assessed separately but get in there quick before the rules change.

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Barbado in reply toDrSarahmac

Good morning,

What is LWRA? Also I don’t understand what you mean by get in there quick before the rules change ?

Thank you.

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DrSarahmac

LWRA is a top up to universal credit. It stands for Limited capacity for work and work related activity. My daughter has worked for 20 years at McDonalds (wonderful employers for learning disabled) but a few years back her health and mobility deteriorated meaning she couldn’t work as much. UC kept bugging us about why she wasn’t earning as much and we were having to do weekly phone calls and trips to the job centre to explain to a different person each time. Any way, they never actively told me but I was researching why this was necessary and found out about LWRA. The assessment is very very similar to that for PIP as it covers a lot of the same health, mobility and ability topics (again no one at UC told us about this) We applied for both and were awarded both at the enhanced rates. I believe the previous government put in place plans to change things so that you only apply for PIP which then becomes a passport for LWRA which is good but I believe (may be wrong) that rates will change at that point for new claims. Others may know more than me about this. Both forms for application are very long and it’s worth looking at some of the online groups that advise on benefit applications as they give pointers to make sure you’re covering all the relevant points in your application. Once the application is reviewed and assessed you have medical assessments for each. In our case for both that was done over the phone with a friendly and understanding doctor. It’s a long, time consuming process but definitely worth it. At the higher rates both benefits add about £1000 a month !!! Worth the effort. Hope this helps and good luck. Let us know how you get on.

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Barbado in reply toDrSarahmac

Hi, my daughter is getting Universal Credit and Pip (enhanced) I was asking if you are entitled to PIP does it affect the UC cap limit of 16K?

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DrSarahmac in reply toBarbado

You asked about LWRA. I was replying to that and why I had suggested you claim quickly.

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Barbado in reply toDrSarahmac

Thank you.

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Bluey203

The cap limit is about savings, Universal Credit payments are reduced by £4.35 for every £250 in savings between £6,000 and £16,000. This means that if you have £6,300 in savings, your Universal Credit will be reduced by £8.70 per month. So PIP doesn't directly effect UC, but if the person has savings above £6000 and also has a surplus of £250 or more from benefits at the end of the month, then this is meant to be reported in the UC journal under 'change of circumstances ' as an increase savings, and also report if savings go down, then they adjust the following months UC accordingly.

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Thank you.

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