I used to spread butter on cheddar when I was a kid...

[Subtle_badger]

...but I thought it was a sign I had an eating disorder 😂

youtu.be/6JCmNu7bMeI(Not working as expected?)

[Food4Fuel]

No - you were just ahead of your time 👍🏻😊

[Sheperdess]

Must admit that I sneak a tiny piece of butter 🧈 off the block now and then before it goes in the pan and eat it on its own 😁

[S7arum7]

Maybe I should try this. Three years of low carb eating after a diagnosis of prediabetes despite being underweight has just resulted in further weight loss and no reduction in blood sugar. My BMI is now 16.5 and the advice is to gain weight but no one can tell me how to do that without eating carbs (which I still do for breakfast). Dieticians only suggestion eat more avocado and cheese. It is all very frustrating especially as many people just say how lucky not to be overweight.

[moreless in reply to S7arum7]

Maybe this could help, S7arum7, because you don't want to gain fat, you want to gain muscle. Eating carbs for breakfast may also be contributing to your raised blood sugar dietdoctor.com/low-carb/gai... If you post a normal day's meals, we'll get more of an idea of how we could help you.

[Subtle_badger in reply to moreless]

I don't think we can be sure that S7arum7 doesn't want to gain fat. With a BMI that low, it's quite possible the body fat is dangerous low too.

Gain muscle, too, of course.

[Subtle_badger in reply to S7arum7]

It's a puzzle. The purpose of a LCHF diet is to reduce insulin, but you can't put on fat or muscle without it. Body builders inject insulin along with steroids to help them bulk up.

I will have a good look at the link moreless has shared, but off the top of my head, I wonder about adding more protein to your diet. Protein causes a release of insulin, but less than carbs do, and it will give you the fuel to build muscle. I would also make sure you do some weight bearing exercise to encourage your body to build muscle....

[Hidden in reply to S7arum7]

google.com/url?sa=t&source=... favourite is chickpeas with olive oil and lemon juice. Kidney beans and other beans, also lentils

Have a look at some of these things as they don't give you a super spike and are very nutritious.

Plenty of the right vegetables.

Try and keep a list of what you'd eating..it just be your not eating enough of the right things your body needs

[Subtle_badger in reply to Hidden]

I would not rely on that article. It says garlic has no carbs, which could not be more wrong. Garlic is almost all carbs, and even a single clove has around a gram of carbohydrates. I would find an independent source for everything in it.

[Hidden in reply to Subtle_badger]

No your right about the garlic. I didn't read I probably.. I do use a couple of cloves I most of my cooking. What I was really trying put over in my post was more to do with high carb foods that are also high in energy and nutrients, but don't give you that all important blood sugars spike.

Beans, such as chickpeas, lentils, oats and of course mixed in some vegetables in with the bean are all very healthy food and we shouldn't be worried about them because their high in carbs.

[Subtle_badger in reply to Hidden]

If you are not in board with low carb, what are you doing here?

[Hidden in reply to Subtle_badger]

I am on board with low carb, my average is less then one hundred a day..But you can troll until your heart contact if that how you enjoy your life..

[Hidden in reply to Subtle_badger]

I see that you sick reply is still on there..

[S7arum7]

I do need to be fatter. Yesterday’s lunch was courgette fritters, a salad of shredded red cabbage and avocado dressed with olive oil and cider vinegar followed by a lump of Wensleydale cheese with walnuts. Followed by black coffee with 2 tablespoons of cream. Supper was haddock fillet on tinned tomatoes spinach and shallot with cauliflower rice. Pudding was kefir and a square of 90% chocolate. I always eat the same breakfast of porridge toast and peanut butter. Very high carb I know but testing with glucose monitor shows no problem with that in the mornings. I exercise regularly with hand weights and resistance bands and also run and walk. At nearly 73 I have found building muscle is a rather losing battle though it was originally recommended as a way of dealing with prediabetes. I really don’t want to be put on metformin but I am beginning to think I may have to give in on that. I have been sent on two diabetes prevention courses by my doctor and also referred to dietician. A whole raft of medical tests have come back as normal so no sinister reason for weight loss. Sorry to be venting but I am just frustrated.

[Subtle_badger in reply to S7arum7]

No, don't apologise, it's great. This community is so quiet, any discussion is welcome. And maybe someone can help you.

I am going to go back to protein. My understanding is no one is quite sure how much protein we need, but we do have needs. We actually need more protein as we age. I think it would be somewhere between 50-100g per day for most people, but going over or under is fine on a daily basis, as our bodies can average it out. The other thing is that apparently we can only utilise about 25g per meal, so a day with a 10g meal and a 60g meal would actually be a low protein day, as most of the protein in the second meal could not be used. On that basis (and I am not an expert, just absorbing google results), the day you describe sounds quite low protein, depending on how much egg was in the fritters.

Just something to consider.

It's probably hard to put on much muscle at 73,but working it will stop you losing so much. So keep doing what you are doing.

(trying to be supportive, ignore me or gently tell me to shut up if I am not succeeding in that!)

[S7arum7]

Thank you