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J'Accuse: Nutritionists

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An interesting if macabre statistic has emerged from countries hit hard by COVID-19: if you have Metabolic Syndrome, you have a much, much higher risk of dying.

The statistics I can find are a bit vague. As far as I can tell, if you die from COVID-19, there's a 97-99% probability that you were wheeled into hospital with one of a small number of serious chronic conditions. Said "chronic condition" is often (about half the time?) recorded as hypertension, diabetes, or CVD.

The implication is that if you're overweight, unfit, and (pre)diabetic, you'd better lock yourself in your room and have your meals slid through a hole in the door.

While deaths among (say) people with lung disease are understandable, it's not immediately obvious why Metabolic Syndrome places you in such jeopardy, but for some reason it does. And what causes Metabolic Syndrome?

Most of us here are pretty confident about the answer: loads of processed carbs, and low-fat diets are inevitably full of carbs, simply because fat+protein+carbs must add up to 100%.

And how it is that virtually everyone is eating processed carbs and zero fat? Why, because it's healthy. It's so healthy, in fact, that GPs spend much of their time prescribing boatloads of statins, blood-pressure medication, diabetes medications, "weight loss" drugs (eg., orlistat), and who-knows-what else in pursuit of ... erm, better health among their disastrously-ill and overweight patients.

Despite all this in-your-face evidence that high-carb low-fat diets aren't very good for you, the health authorities continue to recommend that we should all eat this way, based on some stuff that they've been told by Qualified Nutritionists. Supermarket shelves are stacked up with processed wheat-based products (all low in fat, naturally) and the great unwashed are told to buy lots of them. Which they do - often because they're subsidized by government and used as loss-leaders by supermarkets.

While the victims of this misguided policy have hitherto been dying slowly - in a way that gives the dieticians plausible deniability - we've now got COVID-19. And now they're dying quickly.

LCHF evangelists are accused of spreading dangerous misinformation when we tell diabetic people that they don't have to remain diabetic, or that heart disease and obesity are not caused by too much dietary fat. We've been told that there's "not enough evidence" to drop the EatWell plate and instead just let people eat ... well, normal, healthy food.

Not so long ago, we had a consultant cardiac surgeon - whose name completely escapes me - frothing at the mouth and denouncing anti-statin campaigners with the ringing exhortation that statins "save lives", and if we stop prescribing them then "people are going to die".

Well, people are certainly dying now. And statins don't seem to be helping much with that, do they, doctor?

So here's a suggestion for the nutritionists. Just stop it already. You've had your fun - and I've got to hand it to you, in the entire history of bunkum and snake-oil salesmanship, you've done incredibly well. Now go and get a proper job. The statistics will pile up along with the corpses, and no doubt you'll spin it backwards and forwards to prove that the dead simply didn't eat enough carbs, or eliminate enough fat. Please don't. I've spent many months here poking fun at you, but it's simply not funny anymore.

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Just throwing this out there:

There was a statistician who had studied the figures, and was reaching the conclusion that if you caught CV19, you chances of dying during that 2 weeks was about the same as your chances of dying over the course of a normal year. Apparently it tracked on ages and pre-existing conditions. People with diabetes to die earlier than their fitter neighbours.

He was on the last episode of R4 More or Less, if you want to hear what he has to say.

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Haha, yesterday morning! I heard it - fascinating

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Yeah, ChubbieChops mentioned it. I was pondering on what that means. My best guess is that this is true of many infectious diseases - the healthier you are to start with, the better your chance of fending it off. Or vice versa.

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I love this rant!!!! Thank you...looking forward to the next one :D

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This chimes very well with my last post low total cholesterol/HDL/LDL risk of dying skywards.

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It does. That post reminded me to write something down!

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I'm not sure I want to blame all nutritionists.

But it's true for me personally that my declining asthma over many years matched my increasing weight (up to 20 stone).

Despite asking about weight (with no obvious solution available aside from calorie counting which seemed ineffective) multiple medics seemed more focused on pumping more drugs into me.

Taking matters into my own hands by following (from luck) a LCHF diet, resulted in 5.5 stones weight-loss and unsurprisingly a cessation of asthma symptoms.

I'm now going through a lengthy process to avoid the significant side effects of coming off the drugs I'd been prescribed.

It's clear to me now that a gentle LCHF path works (didn't even need to go keto).

And while the matter is yet to be tested, I feel so much healthier facing Covid that I would have felt 8 months ago.

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Well, if the cap fits ...

To be accepted into the hallowed ranks of the Nutritionists, you must swear allegiance to their BS. The British Dietetic Association (professional body for Dieticians which has a quasi-legal role) makes little attempt at scientific accuracy in its pronouncements. Nutritionists are a mixed bag (because the regulations that apply to them are looser) but they generally subscribe to the same beliefs as Dieticians. And as you've noticed, the medical profession just goes along with it all.

So I'd say it's a case of "not all but most". And when dropped into that scenario as a patient, the average person is likely to just shrug and say "who am I to question the experts?"

There are, I'm sure, a bunch of nutrition advisers out there who are giving out sound advice that (a) works and (b) is based on scientific evidence. Hopefully the mainstream sort will do a bit of soul-searching when COVID-19 hits diabetics etc in full force. But I bet they won't.

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So agree with all you say. That is why The Nutrition Coalition are working so hard to get the US Dietary Guidelines changed - Nina Teicholtz sums it up well here: nutritioncoalition.us/the-i.... Despite all the evidence presented, they have backtracked and it is forecast they are making very little change except for reducing the Saturated Fat. It will be interesting to see if that attitude stays when this lock down is over given the evidence that is coming out on those with pre-existing conditions experiencing the high death rates.

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Thought you’d be interested in this...

Just started on BBC Wales last week is a series about the Intensive Care Unit in the Royal Gwent Hospital filmed last summer.

One of the patients was clearly overweight (As was his wife). After his surgery the consultant suggested that one of the ways to prevent him being readmitted would be to lose weight.

....the consultant said he should reduce carbs and eat more protein...(and muttered that it’s not the NHS line but...)

So the message is getting out there!

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