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I am obsessed with my skipped heart beats even though the 7 day event patch didn't show anything wrong. I want an echocardiogram, but I have to pay as the cardiologist and government don't think I need one. I live in New Zealand, and if the issue is serious or the doctor thinks it is warranted, then you get it paid, otherwise, the patient pays. I think it's awful, I am 66 and should have at least a baseline. The GP didn't think I needed that 7 day patch either, so I had to pay, if it hadn't been for the help of a relative, I would not have been able to get it, it was 960.00 and I feel like it was a waste as it didn't show the beats that scare me, they came back after I returned the monitor. I am in tears all the time. They scare me.

This was the "Conclusion" regarding the monitor results:

7 Day study

Sinus rhythm

The average heart was 70bpm. The minimum heart rate was 49 bpm and the maximum was 121.

Rare ventricular ectopics

Rare Supra-ventricular ectopics with rare couplets and 6 (3-14 beat) episodes of supra-ventricular tachycardia,average rates with beats up to 146 bpm.

No pauses greater than 2.0 seconds

Ventricular ectopics 2 with a 0,00% burden

Supra-ventricular ectopics 321

SV-run Total 6 (total beats 36)

Longest SV run: 14@114 bpm.

Max HR in SV-run: 3@ 146bpm

SVE Burden %: 0.04%

A-Fib Burden (%) 0.00%

Total Minutes >100BPM 112

Tachycardia burden %: 1.11%

What really upsets me is I had some really bad ones AFTER I returned the monitor. So, I still don't know what is going on. One I had was like this: beat, beat, beat, etc then a quick beat and a half beat, then some fast beats, then beat, beat, beat, beat, etc then a quick beat and a half beat, than some fast heart beats. It didn't last long, but it scared me.

I am at my wits end, I can't stand those little "blips" that you feel in the throat. Mine also act up a lot after I eat, when I bend down or lay down. I do have a hiatal hernia, so I suspect that is contributing to it as well. I watch videos by a wonderful cardiologist in York, his name is Sanjay Gupta, they seem to help, but I still am afraid. I want to stop this fear, it is taking over my life.

I wasn't impressed at all with the cardiologist I saw either, he intimidated me and I was afraid to ask questions. I can't see another one as 1)I can't afford it and 2)he's the only one in our area.

I forgot to add that back home in the states I did have an echocardiogram and it was "normal", I was 54 at the time. Now that I am 66, as I said, I think I should have a baseline but the GP and cardiologist don't agree.

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It’s cheaper to buy your own holter recorder and upload to a third party assessor your own 24 hour recordings.. you will not only save money but increase the capture rate of those elusive moments that are causing you the most anxiety.

Having said that…I think you would be prudent to look into K2 and increasing nitric oxide by using foods that contain nitrites… or citrulline which is better than arginine to restoring a healthy vascular system… if things improve it’s either a calcium issue or inflammatory vascular issue.

Scientific waffle which has some papers to back up

D-ribose improves the signalling in the av node…. Magnesium taurate improves rhythms… because it restores the calcium magnesium ratio that often goes awry when you become deficient in magnesium.. long term stress… long term use of Ppi’s … SIBO… low thyroid output to name a few… deplete magnesium.. allows calcium ions to occupy magnesium channels..which makes it trigger happy… ask yourself why calcium channel blockers get used.. it helps the heart to relax .

Just trying to change from a calcium rich diet to one that is more ratio oriented with magnesium can improve a lot of rhythm syndromes apart from bigeminy and trigeminy which respond more to potassium intake… quickly corrected by mixing one teaspoon of cream of tartar in a little water .. approx 450 mg potassium in each teaspoon…which gets absorbed almost immediately..without dangerous side effects..

Sodium bicarbonate (use sparingly as too much too often with cause you to retain fluid and increase BP)reduces serum calcium and increase release of sodium which allows potassium the upper hand..also releases trapped air that may push against the vagus nerve… with immediate results on ectopics.

Most ectopics are benign.. that thump and pause is really the body/brain feedback running amok… hearts will not stop .. they just try to restore rhythm whilst maintaining blood supply to all the important organs.. often the imbalance occurs between sympathetic and parasympathetic pathways.. which should level out with proper breathing patterns.. 5 seconds in ..7 seconds out… from the diaphragm not only restore co2 levels but corrects acid/alkalinity of blood too..

I left the effect of Adrenalin and noradrenalin… but will mention the longer issue.. pump out Adrenalin in long term anxiety depletes cortisol… you end up in chronic fatigue… walking and asheaghanda can bring things back in balance.. may improve general anxiety which in turn lowers episodes of ectopics because you do not leech magnesium levels.

Hope this is helpful in some small way... I have actually used all the above to great effect these past 40 years..… with no serious adverse reactions...all these suggestions mitigate most arrhythmias.. but only once you have had some ecg’s taken to rule out the most complex ones.best wishes UK

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Thank you so much for your suggestions, I have just added the K2-MK7 to my supplements. I also added Carlson's Fish Oil liquid, unfortunately, it seems to have made the skips worse.

My inflammation markers are great, just a 2. I have had numerous ECG's as I have gone to A&E everytime I feel the skips, they are always "normal" and all blood work good.

I have had these heart beat issues since my mid forties and the two echocardiograms were good, the few 24 hour holter monitors were good with few if any PVC'S and some PAC'S, atrial runs and SVT's. The 14 day King of Hearts monitor back in 2012 was very unremarkable, it only showed 29 events, all PAC'S. I was disappointed to see the increase to 321 this time, but then, that was 11 years ago, and I am wondering if the monitor was accurate as I kept having issues with it. It was the type you call in after so many times of pressing the button and transfer the readings via phone. I hated that sound. I had to do it several times as I pressed the button frequently.

My stress level was lower then as well, I haven't really been happy or felt good since moving to NZ in 2012. I refuse to take anti-anxiety meds as they all reacted opposite, it was awful.

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Thankyou for your reply…

This may help…. Fish oil can go rancid… what you should look into are omega 3’s from other sources… such as flaxseed… coconut oil.. or a good olive oil…

Inflammation markers come down with omega 3 .. they go up with omega 6’s.

Consider the more important aspect of the mitochondria… roughly 5000-10,000 in EACH heart cell…sluggish mitochondria means you deplete energy like an over used rechargeable battery… and the only workaround is to use pomegranate extract/juice daily for about 10 days on 5 days off.. this creates mitophagy… which is the bodies way of removing dead and misfolded mitochondria… it’s like reconditioning a battery .. the cell replaces old for new mitochondria that in turn holds a better charge.. so the heart muscle has renewed stamina… same goes for brain mitochondria…same goes for muscle strength.

One final consideration… use Astaxanthin instead of CoQ10 … it is a really good antioxidant…. Energy will improve and so will your heart rhythm…I often thought ectopics got worse after exercise but didn’t quite understand it was partly due to poorly performing mitochondria…(ATP) so feed it with these powerhouse nutrients that really work… my secrets are free to anyone who wants to renew a tired mind and body… no other reason but to help people feel better.

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Fabulous! Thank you for the detail.

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Thank you again. The fish oil I used was always fresh and had no smell, I had used it before in the states and it always helped me, I don't know why I am having issues with it now. I did try Flax seed oil for awhile but it didn't lower my triglycerides too much. I love Pomegranate juice. I drank it all the time back home by a company called "Pom". My naturopath had recommended it. I haven't been able to find any pure Pomegranate juice since being over here and I miss it. I am not familiar with Astaxanthin, I will definitely look it up and see about ordering some.👍😀

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So long as you have a smart phone it is possible to buy a Kardiamobile ECG device on a limited budget (from the likes of Amazon) which are excellent. They produce very good, clear traces that are recognised by cardiologists around the world.

Don't let the fear of the missed beats ruin your life - they are much less of a problem than the fear of them.

Your heart can pause for some time without major issue and if its not giving you other symptoms that's probably all it is doing. The anxiety of it will make it worse but it still won't be a problem - easy said, harder believed, I know.

Mine gets so bad at times I loose all the feeling in my arms and legs, which go white, but it gets over it and I'm fine. Needless to say it never does it when I have a Holter monitor, mostly because the adrenaline of worrying about it not doing it at the right time, and therefore not being believed by the cardiologist, tends to make my heart run better anyway!

The Kardiamobile will help you see if it's just this sort of thing and you can gain confidence from this, or you can show the cardiologists what you are worried about.

I hope you can find one within your budget and get the reassurance or care you want.

PS The 6-lead version is only a bit more expensive than the 2-lead one, but gives you both options and in my opinion is worth the difference if you can afford it. However the 2-lead version does the job and is excellent.

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DoveofPeace in reply to deniseinmilden

Thank you so much for your reply. I looked up that monitor for availability here in New Zealand. Granted, it's not too expensive, but for me, we just can't afford it. We're on an extremely tight budget, neither my husband nor I cam work, I am 66 with health issues such as Fibromyalgia, very painful Plantar Fasciitis, costochondritis, and other health issues. My husband had bad colon cancer in 2018 and almost died from complications, he was in the hospital over 85 days and has had to be hospitalized a few times since. Thankfully, he's now cancer free, but the treatments caused other health issues so he can't work, he's 62. We're on public assistance and can barely make it each week, our weekly rent is astronomical. Also, my episodes don't last long, usually less than 15 seconds. Sometimes I will have them off and on for 5 or 6 hours, but they are not continuous, although somes times they are every 6 beats. Irregardless, they all scare me terribly.

I really don't have a regular cardiologist, the one I saw for the consultation about the monitor results, isn't considered my cardiologist as he just discussed the results. If I wanted to talk to him again, it would be way over 100.00, plus, there is no way he would approve of my using that Kardiamobile monitor. We asked what he thought of them and he said with my high health anxiety, I would drive myself crazy with it. My regular GP wouldn't approve at all, I sure couldn't ask him to read the ECG strips, he wouldn't do it. He thinks I am a hypochondriac as it is. Doctors here are so busy, no one is taking new patients so I can't change, it's awful, they're all over worked as are other health care professionals.

At least my blood pressure is good, it's usually around 115/65 with a heart rate of 68. I am constantly checking it on my blood pressure machine.

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In my opinion the reason for your arrythmias and your preoccupation with monitoring, taking supplements and the like is coming through very loud and very clear; anxiety. It's a very common theme in this forum; arrythmia causes anxiety, anxiety causes arrythmia. My recommendation would be to shift your focus to exploring the various ways of dealing with that with your GP. As someone who has had decades of ectopics I have come to accept that they are bothersome but no more. If you knew for certain yours weren't going to harm you in any way you'd relax wouldn't you? Well your cardiologist may not have made it clear, but your monitor results showed nothing of concern; no AF and a light burden of other arrythmias. I know you say the most disturbing, thumping ones weren't caught, but he knows they are highly unlikely to be dangerous. I get those every day and ignore them; that's just the way my heart is and will still be when I live to a ripe old age! By all means push for a 7-day monitor, saying that the arrythmia you want diagnosed didn't happen during the 24-hour one. But what I really want to get across is: please don't be so intimidated by the thumps, missed beats, pauses, brief pains or sensations in the throat. Very easy to write, I know. But like millions of others I've lived with all those for a long time and I'm fine!

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DoveofPeace in reply to Mugsy15

Thank you so much for your reply. I agree completely, I am almost positive that the root of all this is anxiety. Dr Sanjay Gupta has tons of videos and he almost always says anxiety is the culprit in most cases. I just have to convince myself of that fact By the way, the monitor that I posted the results from where from the 7 day patch monitor I wore last month.🙂

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Yes, of course, 7-day. The fact that you didn't experience the most alarming ectopics at all in that whole week is further evidence that your burden is low and your arrythmias benign. Perhaps you could ask about longer monitoring, although my strong suspicion is that were you to have your very worst arrythmia during the monitoring, it would still show as harmless.

Anxiety is a terrible condition which drives and magnifies so many physical symptoms. One phrase used to describe this is 'the body keeps the score'. Someone very close to me has suffered terribly in the past and after exploring all sorts of treatments and drugs they didn't get on with, has settled on a very low dose of Citalopram and a lifestyle which includes yoga and plenty of walking. A whole host of physical symptoms have disappeared and they are so much calmer. Everyone is different and I'm not suggesting this drug (or indeed any) would be appropriate for you; I tell you this just as an example.

I hope you decide to tackle yours with a determined mindset and I sincerely wish you the very best in that endeavour.

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Unfortunately, the cardiologist would never approve a longer wearing monitor, and if he did, there's no way I could afford it. You're probably right anyway, even the scariest ones are probably benign and only feel sinister due to fear.I tried an SSRI back home and it was a disaster, the side effects were horrendous; it was Paxil, a low dose. Even the ER physician told me I wasn't a candidate for them and to try to exercise or do other things to help. I love to walk and it helps but this painful Plantar Fasciitis is preventing that. I see a podiatrist next Tuesday, hopefully he will be able to help so I can resume my walking again soon.

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Please don't assume that because one SSRI was bad for you, they all will be.

The person I referred to was given several to try, none of which agreed with them, until they arrived at the one which does suit in their case, Citalopram. Another friend is happy with Sertraline, another Pregabilin. All three tried others first. Something else to consider is that many people report a terrible reaction to SSRIs at first, but with perseverance find their bodies adapt and the unwanted side effects largely disappear.

I don't want to give the impression that medication is always the answer either. Talking Therapies, swimming, cycling, Yoga, breathing exercises, massage, etc etc are all proven ways of getting positive hormones in your blood stream!

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Hi, I am 73, have had pvcs for years, often 100s a day, up to about 25,000 right through the night. If docs say you are ok, trust them but try to find the cause and the triggers. See Sanjay Gupta on Roemheld Syndrome, this sounds like you. Wind in the stomach, oesophagus and bowels are my triggers, maybe the cause. Eat slowly, no fizzy drinks, care when drinking hot drinks as you swallow a lot of cooling air. Burp regularly but it can become a habit.I have recently found that I am electrohypersensitive which is quite common but not accepted by most doctors. That could be my cause of pvcs, wind is the trigger.

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Thank you for your help. I am pretty sure that my hiatal hernia is contributing to my issues because the skips are worse after I eat, drink water or bend over or twist on a full stomach. I also think anxiety and nervousness is a trigger. I wasn't this nervous when I was younger, so they weren't as often, but now that I react to everything and am so stressed, I notice every little weird beat. I love Sanjay s videos, they do help.

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The symptoms you describe are spot on to what I have experienced for years after eating/bending over. In the early days I struggled to find any information on the internet about it, but as time has gone on I have read so many stories of others experiencing the same. It wasn't until I saw Dr. Sanjay Gupta's video that it really clarified it for me that I wasn't imagining things. I haven't been able to wear fitted clothing around my waist for years for fear of it putting pressure on my belly. When I bend over or sit, it would cause funny beats and I could never get an answer from my GP. I do get a lot of bubbles coming up my oesophagus also, so I think that contibutes to it. I started getting ectopics at around 18 yrs, and it is still a mental battle at the age of 54 to keep telling myself not to worry, so i really understand what you are going through.

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i get heart flutters or worse when i bend over or even lean over to the side from a sitting position. just happens. one of those things. but mainly, any mild exertion triggers palpitations. even just carrying a pack of water bottles for a minute can trigger them.

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Have you mentioned to a cardiologist about the palps on exertion, and if so what did they say? I ask because we are always led to believe that if we get palps on exertion that this would be a bit more concerning. Have you had a stress/treadmill test?

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I don't have a cardiologist actually, the one I saw was just for interpretation of the results from the monitor I wore. He seems to think all is well and to not worry about them. When I mentioned other tests, he was very dismissive about it, besides, I can't afford any, since I can't have this funded publicly, because they don't think I need these tests, I have to pay. I did exercise while wearing the monitor, nothing ever showed up.

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Oh ok, yes it is frustrating when the docs say they don't think you need the tests. Unfortunately when they dont allow the tests it just leads to continued worries when you cant definitely rule other things out. I feel your pain!

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Sorry, I forgot to ask on my last reply that if doing mild exertion triggers it, what do you do? Do you stop what your doing or carry on and just try and tell yourself it's all OK?

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I usually just carry on as the only exercise I can do is walk and now I can't do that much due to extreme pain from Plantar Fasciitis in my left foot. I have had some skips when walking and they scare me, but there is nothing I can do but continue as I am not near home. They eventually calm down but they sure do ruin the enjoyment I normally get from the walks.

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I can understand that as I seem to get more while I am walking these days, it's like a dropping/downward sensation in the chest which feels quite slow, almost as if your heart isn't quite keeping up with what your doing. This makes me rely on my car more and then of course get less exercise which isn't good as I desperately would love to walk without worrying. Although I would worry about having a test, I feel I should have a treadmill test as I haven't had one for over 20 years. A lot can change in that time.

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They have never suggestedca stress test, I wish they would. I also would like an echocardiogram, the last one was back home in the states about 12 years ago, I am 66 now and feel it is important, but they won't do it. I have been trying to drink more water but I am still having some skips, they scare me so much. 😪

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I am sorry to hear that. It's horrible isn't it.

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It sure is. The fear has taken over my life even though I try not to fear.

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Yes, all those causes are associated with pressure either on the heart or on the vagus nerve which triggers the heart ectopics. Maybe anxiety makes the heart more "jumpy". As I said, relieving the pressure will relieve the symptoms. Avoiding fizzy drinks, swallowing air, large meals, gulping food, chewing gum etc will help. I also tend to swallow air if I talk a lot. I find massaging the stomach and regular burping help.

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One thing I haven't mentioned yet is dehydration as a driver for arrythmia. As soon as I'm even slightly dehydrated my arrythmia kicks in and can go on for hours. Many people on this forum report the same. You say that drinking water makes yours worse and that concerns me because it probably means you avoid it.

I've found that it doesn't matter how much tea, coffee, fruit juice or 'wet' food I ingest, only plain water does the trick - and how. If I discipline myself to drink 2 litres of tap water one day I can be almost certain of a calm heart that night and the next day.

How to experiment with this when doing so, at least initially, makes your arrythmia worse? I'd grasp the nettle and give it a go anyway. Maybe try warm or hot water to see if it's the cold setting off the ectopics. Or take regular sips from a bottle all day instead of gulps. Do most of the drinking in the morning and early afternoon, and stop at 6pm to minimise needing the toilet through the night.

I'd be very interested to learn the results of you drinking 2L of plain water every day for a week.

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Hello. I have to admit that lately I have been avoiding water anyway I can. I won't even eat things that are liquid due to fear of it causing my ectopic beats. I remember back home in the states I used to drink so much water and I will say that I had minimal ectopics. Now that I think about it, the times I had them the worst was when I had slacked off. I am embarrassed to say that I normally only have a few glasses a day and that's only when I take my supplements. I drink warm water because the cold does cause then to act up more. Gosh, this may be the reason my eye sight is getting worse as well, it fluctuates constantly and they just can not get my prescription right, it's good for a few days then they aren't strong enough. I always thought that a person had to go without water a few days before being dehydrated, but I guess it's a matter of hours?

I am going to start drinking more water tomorrow morning, it's midnight now in New Zealand, even if the heart skips, I will try to press through. I am fed up with these darn things.

Thank you so much for mentioning this, this might be an answer to my prayers. I'll let you know how it goes.

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if you want my opinion ectopics have NOTHING to do with water

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Yet numerous people on this forum report dehydration as a definite trigger. In my case there is no doubt whatsoever. Put simply, if my urine is dark, I have continuous, violent ectopics. If it isn't, I don't. I've read the same dozens of times on here.

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My own opinion is that the need to hydrate has been overstated to the general population for many years, and some people drink so much that they succeed only in flushing nutrients out of their system. Many others seem to think drinking energy drinks loaded with sweeteners does the job. It doesn't, and sweeteners are very bad news for arrythmia sufferers anyway -as bad as dehydration for many of us!

I think the rules are slightly different for us. We need that water in our system; don't ask me why, I'm not a biochemist, I just know it works for me and many others. I'm terrible for working for hours then realising I haven't drank any water, such was my focus on the task at hand. I always pay for my stupidity with a session of cardiac thumps, bumps and pauses. I also regularly underestimate the impact of sweating or diarrhoea, a beer session or too many coffees and don't drink enough water to compensate. At these times, adding some electrolytes via products such as Diarolyte (UK) is bound to help too.

You'll have to put up with triggering your arrythmia, at least at first, and increased toilet visits no doubt. But it will be interesting to see what happens. If nothing, then at least you will know.

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Hi, it's been ten days since we discussed hydration; I'm guessing by your silence that it hasn't helped?

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Hi. Sorry for not writing, I haven't been drinking as much as I should as I am still afraid, but when I do, some days it helps, but other days it seems to make them act up. I notice them the most when I first wake up and at night. Also, I ate some spicy chili a few days ago,they acted up then. Of course the stress I have been under the last few weeks doesn't help.

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Ah, that's a shame, I thought you'd gathered the resolve to give it a real go! I know it's easy for me to type and much harder for you to do. I'd caution against expecting instant results; it's a case of building up the hydration level in your body, maintaining it and hoping for the calming effect in due course.

All I can do, then, is leave it with you. Good luck!

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I will do better with and give it my best effort. I will report after a few weeks. Thanks for letting me know that it takes a few days or so to take effect, I was expecting instant results.

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Well, I have tried increasing my water intake, sadly, it's not helping and if anything, they are worse. I am at my wits end, nothing is helping, I am having them now as I type this and I am terrified.

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I'm sorry that being properly hydrated hasn't helped and hope it doesn't put you off staying hydrated going forward. But at least you are able to eliminate that as a trigger for you, and we can refer back to my previous posts about anxiety. You have had a lot going on in your life and anyone would suffer stress from moving halfway round the world; their partner having cancer; their financial situation being tight and having several health issues of their own to deal with. In those earlier posts I listed a few options you may be able to explore, hopefully with a GP initially, to tackle your anxiety.

I feel that since you've had arrythmias since your 40s, you should by now have accepted that whilst they are bothersome, they aren't a warning that something terrible is about to happen. Yet they 'terrify' you. We know that a high level of anxiety blows everything out of proportion and causes one to 'overthink'. Just going from what you've written this seems a classic case of that, and you have my deep sympathy. Anxiety is a crippling condition in its own right, but also makes any other conditions and life problems you may have far worse. From my own experience I can say it also causes a lethargy and reluctance to seek help. I hope you can gather the strength to speak to a GP (again) about it and research any other possible support available in your area.

Best wishes.

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I agree, and for awhile the skipped beats didn't scare me as much, but this past year they have increased so much. In the past, they only lasted a few minutes to a few hours, now, like today, they come and go all day. I have told my GP about it, but he just says to take a Beta-Blocker. Well, I am not going to take one, my normal blood pressure is 110/70 and heart rate in the 60's. Plus, there is no guarantee they will work and can sometimes make them worse along with other side effects.

To add to my stress, a couple of weeks ago, I went to the ER due to chest pain I had been having for a week. All the tests were done, hsTroponin, EKG etc. All OK. I was discharged with an indeterminate diagnosis, possibly musculoskeletal and low CP risk. The chest x-ray showed Pectus Excavatum (funnel chest) which the GP said it can cause the pain and skips. Well, I looked it up and it said severe cases can, but mine is minor, so I am not convinced. I guess that, with my hiatal hernia is a good recipe for skips and such.

I will continue to plod on.

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i've lived for nearly five years now with DAILY heart palpitations, normally feeling like my heart is fluttering. other times more violent. i also have suffered severe chest tightness for around four years that does not respond to GTN spray. i want to tell you that for 4.5 years i was not taken seriously by my cardiologists - all male - basically told it was in my head and to go seek mental health support. even though my ECGs are always abnormal and even though heart arrhythmias run in my family. docs dismissed everything. it was only when i finally saw an EP that the EP found i had SVT. tachycardia. that took 4.5 years of me suffering and having no life and living in fear. i was put on flecainide in july this year, and it's made a big difference. however i had a flu vaccine in early october, and my heart flutters have returned now. but i've been through similar to you - docs didnt want to give me the LOOP recorder and i had to argue with them to finally get one. i've had to fight them so many times to finally get my SVT diagnosis. i am left with little faith in most doctors and also disgusted. my advice to you is to keep pushing. if you just give up you suffer longer. there's a lot of sexism with heart issues. women get treated as if we're just insane. men get taken seriously. all the best

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Well, here I am once again. I thought my skips were finally going away as the last couple of months they weren't as bad.... WRONG. Wednesday, they started acting up again with a fierce vengeance, they were awful, they wouldn't stop except maybe for a few minutes, then back again. I had my husband take me to A&E, I was hooked up to the monitor, y'all know the drill, and of course during the EKG, my heart behaved. The nurse and doctor were very caring and said that they would monitor me for a couple of hours. So, during that time, I felt some but nothing like at home. Everytime I felt a few I rang the nurse so she could check it on their telemetry. After 4 hours, the doctor talked to me again and asked what I was worried about when I felt them, I told him that I was afraid that I had had a heart attack, so, he said for my peace of mind, he would order a Troponon blood test. I waited another hour for the results and again felt some skips. When he came back with the results be said the level was very low and they had been monitoring me on their telemetry. He said even though I reported some "skips" they weren't anything that would have raised a red flag and that they were benign. As usual, he told me that many people have ectopic beats and they're not serious or a forerunner of a heart attack. He also said that Beta-Blockers probably would do more harm than good since my normal blood pressure is low and my heart rate in the 60's and 70's when calm. He tried to reassure me, but this time I wasn't convinced. When we left A&E, I started crying and told my husband that I know they are missing something, that this time the beats definitely feel different. They were horrible all the way home and into the night, I finally got some sleep however. The next morning, I didn't have any even though I was doing strenuous work, but as soon as I stopped and had some lunch, BANG, they came back, they went on all the rest of the day and when I went to bed last night, they were the worst I have ever had. I had to sit up and calm myself down, never have I felt anything like that. They finally settled some so I layed back down and was able to sleep some. It is morning now, 9:30, and already they are acting up and I am crying. The least little movement, such as getting up to use the bathroom, starts them again. I am afraid to do anything. I hate that I feel them mainly in my throat. I also did something I should never do, that's look up things on Google,so I scared myself even more. Almost all articles say that if you feel more than 6 a minute, to call 911 immediately. Well, I am definitely feeling more than that at times. I know anxiety can cause these horrid things, and mine has been higher than usual, but I have never had these last so long and even affect my sleep. I can't call my GP, the office is closed until January 8, I am resisting the urge to go back to A&E, but if they continue or get worse, I will go back. I am at my wits end. I will also say that during the skips, my heart rate is sometimes between 69 beats a minute to 85. Last night, however, the heart rate was fast and I could feel it pounding in my back.

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