Jestem od roku na ADT mój lekarz chce żebym przyjmował ADT przez 3 lata. Chcę przejść na BAT.

[Kornik1992]

Hej! W 2024 zdiagnozowano u mnie PC.. Mój poziom PSA przed operacją wynosił 102! Po operacji da vinci spadł do 0.4 Gleason 4+5. W 2025.04 zacząłem radioterapię na lożę i węzły chłonne i zatrzyki z Leuperliny tj ADT. Po radioterapii i zastrzyku PSA spadłodo poziomów nieoznaczalnych tj PSA 0.004.Od roku przyjmuję ADT A mój lekarz chcę żebym był na ADT jeszcze dwa lata! Myślę czy nie zacząć BAT nawet bez jego zgody. Być może jestem wyleczony ale jeśli nie to pomyślałem że spróbuję uderzyć ewentualne mikroprzerzuty dużymi dawkami testosteronu zamiast pozostawać na samej ADT kolejne 2 lata. CO sądzicie?

Pozdrawiam Marek!

[cujoe]

This post seems to be soliciting input from our resident forum BAT users?

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Translation from Polish ~

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I've been on ADT for a year, my doctor wants me to take ADT for 3 years. I want to switch

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Hey! In 2024, I was diagnosed with PC. My PSA level before surgery was 102! After the operation, da vinci dropped to 0.4 Gleason 4+5. In 2025.04 I started radiation therapy for the bed and lymph nodes and Leuperlin trips, i.e. ADT. After radiotherapy and injection, PSA dropped to undetectable levels, i.e. PSA 0.004.I have been taking ADT for a year and my doctor wants me to be on ADT for two more years! I'm thinking about starting BAT even without his consent. Perhaps I am cured, but if not, I thought I would try to hit possible micrometastases with high doses of testosterone instead of staying on ADT alone for another 2 years. WHAT do you think? (emphasis is added to translated text)

Greetings Marek!

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Be helpful if you can. Bing translator works like a charm as your texting intermediary.

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Stay S&W and help other do likewise!

Ciao - cujoe

[Kornik1992 in reply to cujoe]

Yes, exactly as you wrote. I'm looking for information about BAT. I live in Poland, and here my idea of switching to BAT seems crazy to everyone.

Hey! In 2024, I was diagnosed with PC. My PSA level before surgery was 102! After Da Vinci surgery, it dropped to 0.4, Gleason 4+5. In April 2025, I started radiotherapy for the prostate bed and lymph nodes, along with Leuprolide injections (ADT). After radiotherapy and injections, my PSA dropped to undetectable levels, i.e., PSA 0.004. I have been on ADT for a year, and my doctor wants me to continue ADT for another two years!

I’m thinking about starting BAT even without his approval.

Maybe I’m cured, but if not, I thought I’d try hitting possible micrometastases with high doses of testosterone instead of staying on ADT alone for another two years.

Thanks for help.

MARK.

[cujoe in reply to Kornik1992]

Mark, Very glad to help when/where I can. You are probably here because you know we have a number of patient posters who have developed their own N=1 BAT treatment protocols. Hopefully, one of them will respond.

From your description, you have had a very good response to your initial treatment, so no real surprise your docs would suggest you stick with it. If you are actually "cured", BAT would, of course, be of no benefit. The problem for all of us is knowing that we are: really "cured", on a long-term durable treatment path, or on one that will eventually lead to resistance - and, thus, more difficult-to-treat disease. Sometimes less is more, sometimes not! It is the troubling decision dilemma almost all cancer patients deal with.

Whatever you do, stay positive and make the most of every day . . . while doing your best to stay safe & very well,

Good Luck, Comrade cujoe

PS -W razie potrzeby bing.com/translator/ zapewni Ci tłumaczenie na język polski.

[Kornik1992 in reply to cujoe]

Thank you for your response!

My main dilemma is whether I could safely supplement with high doses of testosterone during ADT (using different fractions to maximize the shock effect on cancer cells and take advantage of BAT's potential to eliminate any remaining cells, such as possible micrometastases). Safety is my priority because I still have a small but real chance of being cured.

Six weeks after prostatectomy, my PSA was 0.4 and kept decreasing. Then, I immediately underwent high-dose radiotherapy and started Librexa injections every three months. Maintaining my physical condition is crucial to me—I have always been highly active. I used to play professional volleyball and was even a member of the Polish national team, competing in the World and European Championships. After my career ended, I focused on strength training, boxing, MMA, and, in recent years, I fell in love with cycling.

I strongly believe that, despite a PSA of 102 and a Gleason score of 9, my high-intensity physical activity and myokine production helped prevent visible metastases in the PSMA PET scan with Gallium-68. I still lift weights and cycle a lot, which is why I think a BAT cycle could greatly support my journey.

Maybe I’m being naive, but my goal is to win—or at least not lose—against prostate cancer. Thank you for the work you put into developing this forum.

[cujoe in reply to Kornik1992]

Mark - Give it a few days and let's see if one or more of our experienced BAT patients will respond to you question(s). Regards, cujoe

[cujoe]

Mark - In the absence of any direct responses to your question, you may find what you need to guide a decision on BAT in the many recent posts here by PCaWarrior. Good Luck + Good Health 2 You!