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Hi everyone. I know it's an unpleasant topic, but has anybody here ever experienced tiny black specks/dots on the toilet paper after a bowel movement?

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Stool is endlessly variable and depends, in normal life, on what you are eating. Once you begin to have a disease process there are a lot of different chemistries that happen in the bowel so what comes out varies a lot. One of the results of liver disease is that you get only partial digestion and can look like anything. Long way around to say we have no idea. Dark tarry stools are a potential sign of bleeding but can't guess about specks.

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ToughToes in reply to nash2

Thanks Nash, I guess a lot depends on the volume of blood too, IF IT US IN FACT BLOOD, meaning the blac, tarry stools would indicate significant bleeding, while it seems logical to suspect that a few black specks with overall normal looking stool would be from minimal bleeding. Make sense?

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That is really a question for your doc, but I would think that it is more likely some undigested food. I think blood would just mix in and wouldn't be visible but that is just speculation on my part. I'm sure a lot depends on exactly where a bleed is happening but it is something we always want to be aware of and if it persists I'd get it checked out.

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ToughToes in reply to nash2

Thanks, I'm having a colonoscopy/gastroscopy tomorrow. Cross your fingers for me.

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Looking4Health2

Please bear in mind this can happen if you eat grapes or some seeds. Fingers crossed for a good outcome for you.

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ToughToes in reply to Looking4Health2

Thank you. I don't eat much fruit or vegetables, to my detriment I'm sure. But, scope was done and, fortunately no varices detected, so that's good. The doctor's English isn't very good, but I think he said that the black specks were likely due to the diverticulosis, which he did detect.

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Looking4Health2 in reply to ToughToes

Diverticulosis is so very common. I have a healthy diet and have it as well. Genetics! Glad all is well.

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ToughToes in reply to Looking4Health2

Thanks very much. I guess it's safe to assume that, since there's no varices, there's no portal hypertension; therefore, no cirrhosis, I would think. Would you agree?

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Looking4Health2 in reply to ToughToes

I’m not medically knowledgeable enough to say. That would be a great question for your Doc.

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ToughToes in reply to Looking4Health2

Seems only logical to me, since I don't have any other symptoms.

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mar3148 in reply to ToughToes

Are you aware that black pepper does not digest. It comes out as it goes in. When the specks come back , think about when was the last time you put pepper on your food.

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Splodge60 in reply to ToughToes

You will get a different answer from every consultant you speak with xxxxx