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Are they or you talking about my case - "Sugar shooting to 200 at 1 hr after taking 4 idlis & a coffee with sugar is not CURE for sure?

This type of statements are seen to be repeated in different threads often, where I respond. I would like to know whether the finger is pointed towards me. If the answer is yes, please tell where from you got the information.

I am coming up with a post because the statement has been appearing at dufferent places & wish this clarification to reach all.

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Dear sir

I think the personsame which are following your experience. ..are not affected from such type of statements😊😊😊 and Don't think more about

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Thank you @saxenaen. :-)

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Let people say whatever they want to !! Why care about such elements. Such comments are certainly not going to affect those who are following LWMDR. Those who follow it know it's benefits while other's .....😟😟. So keep doing your good work sir without getting intimidated by such comments. Looking forward for your new post eagerly as always . Do keep us updated . It's very much needed for us.

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Thank you @seemap. :-)

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Dear Mr. George:

We have regards for you and we know the value of your posts and the fact that it controls DM well.

Recently I started the regimen Java Wheat available.

I am mashing 63 gms in the morning and evening.

My question to you is

"Do I need to avoid other food completely (little rice, wheat prodcuts) etc."

Of course, I dont eat any sugar products and mindful of the impact though.

Would there be any impact (negatively) on our stamina and ability to do our daily activities.

How did you compensate for the loss of intakes?

Pardon me if I am asking questions that are already answered by you.

If you can, you may just send the links for me to go through to understand.

Thanks for your useful advice.

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Thank you @siva24 for the interest in LWMDR.

You can reach my posts by clicking my picture here.

If you wish to reach my full article, google the 3 words GEORGE CURED DIABETES.

I am repeating for you THE CHANGES TO BE MADE IN EXISTING ROUTINE:

1. Replace the staple (main) starchy part of your breakfast & supper by Long Wheat mash; dry LW taken @ 1to 2.5 gm per kg of body weight per meal daily.

2. Stop taking root-vegetables.

3. Stop taking fruits.

4. Stop taking sweet items.

5. Stop or reduce intermediate intakes between Breakfast, Lunch & Supper.

6. Monitor blood sugar & report regularly; initially every week and then fortnightly.

This means DO NOT REDUCE OR STOP TAKING MEDICINES, if you are already on medication.

Do you still think that there will be any loss of intake?

Do you still feel that LWMDR will cause any negative impact on your stamina to do routine works or any work?

Please feel free to ask if you have more questions on LWMDR OR DIABETES.

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1. The first link took me to an OGTT result, not iddli-coffee result. Did you not notice that?

2. Thank you for helping to learn more details about Diabetes.

3. I take this opportunity to congratulate you on your inquisitiveness & untiring efforts.

4. The second link took me to a Scientific paper on CGM studying 74 HEALTHY individuals.

5. It reports that " sensor values were greater than 140mg/dl for 0.4% of the day". Did you not see that? Or did you not read that paper before quoting here? 0.4 % of a day is not small a duration.

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I read the paper on Interstitial CGM (refd. above by a senior member) once again. Following points caught my attention:

1. Seventy four HEALTHY NON-DIABETIC individuals were selected (from screened 148) for the study.

2. They were of age between 8 & 65.

3. Only subjects with NORMAL GLUCOSE TOLERANCE were studied.

4. Conclusion of the study is NOT that Blood Glucose NEVER cross 140 mg/dl; instead it is UNCOMMON in healthy nondiabetic individuals.

5. Agewise distribution of number of individuals is NOT uniform.

08-<15 is 20 subjects (20÷7=2.8571 per one year of age.in the group)

15-<25 is 17 " " " (17÷10=1.70 per one year of age.in the group)

25-<45 is 20 " " " (20÷20=1.00 per one year of age.in the group)

45-<65 is 17 " " " (17÷20=0.85 per one year of age.in the group)

This appears to be BIASING the study TOWARDS YOUNGER AGE.

6. Why this BIASING towards younger age?

Who will help me unravel this mystery?

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Mr George, LW diet is being followed by many of us on this forum. Comments are personal views, some are taken with good intentions, some with a pinch of salt.

After being on LW diet for BF and dinner, and with HF(high fat) diet of coconut oil and fresh coconut, my BS is under control. I have to go for my 3 month a1c/FBS?PPBS test this month end. Hope to see where these tests stand when compared to the earlier one. Will post them once they are available. Last week underwent trabeculotomy surgery for glaucoma. Doing better now.

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Sorry to hear about the surgery. Glad about doing better now.

Thank you for the advice. I can not tolerate somebody misguiding members on my account (meaning misinterpreting my experience & quoting only favourable points from scientific papers).

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Shooter George, Sir, I am doing fine, getting there. Thank you for your enquires.

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Get well soon. All the best.

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Thank you @Girbuji09 for the concern. If I do not defend LWMDR some members who have not tried it may feel that the allegation is true.

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Sir, I would like to contact you through e-mail. I kindly request you to click an e-mail to me on zuzepernal@yahoo.com

Thank you.

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Sir,

I hesitate to share my email id because the time I use for communication & clarification will become more productive in public forum. Can you please tell me what is the imperativeness in email communications between two of us?

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Yes, I agree with most of them supporting Shooter George who are on LW diet. I still continue to take follow the LW diet because, I have been diabetic since 2005 and was not able to control it, until now after following the LW diet. My a1c have come down from 7.9 to 7.1 in 6 to 1 year's time. medicine has also been reduced.My recovery would have been quicker, but due to various other health issue, i was not able to follow the diet regularly. Unlike others, Sir Shooter George does not critizise other methods of diabetes care posted in this. So, it would be appreciated if others too please follow common courtesy and respect one another and not hurt feeling. Sir Shooter George is only trying to help other diabetics to recover through his method. He is not forceful and pushing about his diet, like others. He leaves it to ones choice. That is his greatness. Hope this common courtesy is followed by all. If one in this forum is hurt, it hurts all!.

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Sorry, I joined this forum only 6 months back. Past is past, I didnot intend to stir a hornet's nest. Let's bury the hatchet. Sorry to all.

In this context, I would like to say, I am following both LW as well as LCHF diet. My consumption of LW and rice is very less, being vegan,rest is, more of veg, legume, coconut oil(copra made at home and pressed locally at a oil mill)coconut scrapping, veg juice, and nuts. Coconut oil added to black coffee and tea is very tasty. I have benefited from both diets. Thanks to all for sharing their experience and advice.

My latest Blood results

oct 2015 feb 2016

FBS 102 90

PPBS 107 87

a1c 7.1 7.1

chol,ser 174 210

trig 139 127

LDL 73 115

HDL 74 70

VLDL 24 25

My doctor said my total chol, ser has gone up, PPBS is very low, a1c is still not showing any improvement. Otherwise, HDL,LDL FBS are good. I now advised glycepage 250 in the afternoon, and 500 at night. I was taking Rosavas 5 mg till oct, when it was changed to storvas 10 mg. My enquries are,

1)Is that the cause of increased serum chol? Why is my PPBS going low inspite of having LW/2 small dosa/idli or a small piece of puttu with coconut chutney or legume for breakfast?

Please give me your feedback, and expect to recify both the issues through your advises. Thank you all, friends.

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Even though we evaluate the quantity of glucose in blood in FBS & PPBS I get two different pieces of information from those. This maybe because of my immature/incomplete knowledge. What I have noticed is that at the beginning of diabetes FBS cross limit first and PPBS later only. So I think you have come a long way back to initial stage.

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@nairrajis,

It appears that I must clarify one point here. It is about efficacy of combining LWMDR & LCHF diets.

My personal experience is that a diabetic need to take the specified quantity of LW for the LWMDR to be effective. The word THRESHOLD will explain it.

Whenever patients have reduced the dose, they have reportrd ineffectiveness & on correcting the dose it showed effect.

Your PPBS being low may be due to the diabetic medication in conjunction with low carbohydrate intake. In that case your Diabetes is not getting reduced & that is why HbA1c does not improve.

Two things being good need not necessarily imply that those are combinable to give better result. If you do not take the required quantity of LW your efforts may be in vain as far as LWMDR & CURE are concerned.

Eating some LW Some times is NOT LWMDR.

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Yes, I understand that the quantity of LW should be according to your weight. I am slowly trying to increase the amt. As I had mentioned, I am used to eating food in small quantity only. Since yesterday, I had started taking 50 gms of LW for BF and dinner and am slowly getting used to it. Today BF I had 55 gms. My wt is around 55-57 kgs. 

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@Anup...why one needs more cholesterol as age progresses?

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Anup is knowledgeable and tough guy to handle...

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Anup Ji, why are your views about homeopathy ?

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Thank you, Anup Ji for the informative replies.

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Again, many many thanks sir !!

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Thank you Anup for your replies. very informative and help me understand where my blood results stand. I take blood results at local Public health Lab attached to the Govt Diabetes institute. I get my medications from my Central Govt Health clinic. Usually they give the recommended pills, if not, only those prescribed by their panel.So, I don't think there is any foul play. I went through my earlier PPBS results taken from this lab. they were as follows

4/2014 -151

6/2014 -187

7/2014 -133

8/2014 -129

12/2014 -87

1/2015 -95

5/2015 -108

8/2015 -90

10/2015 -107

1/2016 -87

PPBS started reading less from 12/2014. My breakfast was more or less same as mentioned earlier.

I donot do any exercise or walking. I get to take FBS, but PPBS, either forget to take, or am out of the house. Maybe, I will try to take for a month more consistently and find out. Thank you once again.

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This is very good progress though a bit unsteady. Keep it up & try to make it steady.

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Sir, ShooterGeorge,

Yes, I am trying to keep my diet steady. Thank you for your concern.

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Dear George,

I am living abroad. I found Farro which is described as LW in your report at Google but it's grains are more or less of same size as ordinary wheat. Can you please suggest me the place/shop in India from where you sourced your LW? It will really help me to get on LWMDR at earliest. I am diabetic since 2005 and my reading stays around 200 even though I am on just leafy & vegetable salads and legumes/dals. I need it Urgebtly. Thank you in advance. Regards, Param.

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Hi @Param_Kahlon,

It is not the size of grain that matters. It is the species. Its scientific name as you might have seen in that table is Triticum dicocuum. Its average size is longer than common wheat; that is why it is known as Long Wheat. After the advent of broken & floured wheat business, good quality grains go in such lines. Thats why smaller grains come to the grain merchants. In my town it is available in many groceries.

If you see older posts connected with LW, numerous details like food chains, traders, mobile numbers, names etc are avavailable there. Wish you success.

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Thanks GS!

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I read the paper on Interstitial CGM (refd. above by a senior member) once again. Following points caught my attention:

1. Seventy four HEALTHY NON-DIABETIC individuals were selected (from screened 148) for the study.

2. They were of age between 8 & 65.

3. Only subjects with NORMAL GLUCOSE TOLERANCE were studied.

4. Conclusion of the study is NOT that Blood Glucose NEVER cross 140 mg/dl; instead it is UNCOMMON in healthy nondiabetic individuals.

5. Agewise distribution of number of individuals is NOT uniform.

08-<15 is 20 subjects (20÷7=2.8571 per one year of age.in the group)

15-<25 is 17 " " " (17÷10=1.70 per one year of age.in the group)

25-<45 is 20 " " " (20÷20=1.00 per one year of age.in the group)

45-<65 is 17 " " " (17÷20=0.85 per one year of age.in the group)

This appears to be BIASING the study TOWARDS YOUNGER AGE.

6. Why this BIASING towards younger age?

Who will help me unravel this mystery?

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How do you that this curve is line?Just out of curiously...

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You said it, thank you. Common people can be easily misled with the help of technical jargon support; facts can be camouflaged. Seeing things in totality happens rarely with statistics.

Systems are brisker at young age & grow sluggish with time. That is the real impact or purpose of having more subjects towards younger age. It is felt to be deliberate.

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