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Long Wheat Mash Diet Regimen (LWMDR)- I have arranged unbroken pure Long wheat. Pls share the recipes and procedure to make tasty Mash.

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everexotic profile image
everexotic

Taste uh! Diabetics should forget taste.

dialife profile image
dialife in reply to everexotic

Actually it tastes great if you have it with regular dal, sambhar and veggies.

why?

Gentleness100 profile image
Gentleness100

Can you consume this porridge daily twice a day along with some vegetables. It will be a sticky substance. No doubt it will definitely benefit.

Yes sure. Tell me how to make it please.

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Gentleness100 in reply to

kclvbn has mentioned how to make it. Keralites usually like to have Kanji, so this stuff is not difficult for them to have on a regular basis, but for others it may not be suitable daily.

in reply to Gentleness100

Pls tell me proper /detailed way to make, KCLVBN is kind but hard pressed for time. I love Kerala food if it tastes real Kerala style. So Pls tell properly. Thanks in advance.

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Gentleness100 in reply to

Wash the wheat thoroughly and soak it over night covered with a lid. In the morning pressure cooker for 20-25 minutes.. Use the same water and into it add a little salt. Cook on medium flame. Grind it in the mixer and eat with any vegetable or curry. Shooter George has given a detailed method of cooking this. Please refer to his posts. If you are fond of kerela food then add coconut in all your curries and vegetable and with very little masala, that turns out to be kerela style food.

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roger123 in reply to Gentleness100

Hi Gentlenness 100, what kind of wheat is this,what is the name in malayalam

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roger123 in reply to roger123

i think soochi gothambu

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shivshankarts in reply to roger123

Sir Soochi Gothambu is also know as broken wheat. is it the same.

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ShooterGeorge in reply to shivshankarts

Any wheat when broken is called broken wheat. If Long Wheat is broken, it will be called Broken Long Wheat.

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bhaskarraut

Can anybody tell me, where in Mumbai this long wheat is available ?

in reply to bhaskarraut

kalba devi Road.

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bhaskarraut in reply to

Thanks Mr Anilgupta, i shall find out in kalba devi road

in reply to bhaskarraut

Gujaratis are very nice business men. They will guide you if they do not stock. Go to Justdial.com. Select Kirana shops in Kalbadevi area. Use yr judgement and start phoning. If he does not stock ask him. You will succeed. I did in Pune, why wont you? Good luck .

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bhaskarraut in reply to

thanks, Mr.anilgupta

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sshk in reply to

Sir, where can I get long wheat in Pune?

in reply to sshk

Shah Mansukhlal ChuniLal, 1921 Blundel Road/Shivaji Market Road, Camp, Pune. Tel 020 26340470. If you come to centre Street Camp, Pune any one will guide you to Mansukhlal Dry Fruits Merchant, very famous. I am enjoying the LW as it is ery tasty and healthy. Also lost weight. Cheers, good luck and may God help and bless you.

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sshk in reply to

Thank you very much Sir for sharing the valuable informtion. I will keep you posted on my progress on LW. Right now my HbA1C is 6.4 and I am on Metformin 250-0-250.

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Nams in reply to

Hi Anil ji

can you pls let me know what you call Long wheat in hindi so i can check other places in pune?

in reply to Nams

It is known as Khapli Gehun here. I understand that there is a merchant(s) in Market Yard who store this in a cold storage as it is seasonal ( Season is Feb-March-April) and prone to infestation. If you can locate other sources please do let us know also. Vithal Gangaram Mankar Kirana Stores, Kasturi Chawk, (Near Ranka Jewellers) Ganesh Peth is also having this. His nos are 02026386428/26. He sells Khapli Gehun @Rs60/ kg and atta @Rs.65/kg. Tell him to supply you with the bran (atta or the gehun) as Fiber is all in the bran. He sells polished/pearlized also - for Khichda

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Nelsonlimji in reply to

Dear Mr Anil Gupta,

What should I tell the shop keepers in kalbadevi. ..what is the name of unbroken long wheat in Hindi

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fayyazbagwan in reply to Nelsonlimji

"Khapli Gahu" or "joad Gahu" in Marathi

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chhabinath in reply to

Hello Mr Gupta

Good day

Could you please give me the address of that shop in kalbadevi from where I can get long wheat.

Thanks

Chhabinath singh

Airoli Navi Mumbai

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suleomkar in reply to

can you get me contact number sir???

i am searching for the same. i had searched iAPMC market too there also i couldnt find. :(

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ShooterGeorge in reply to suleomkar

@suleomkar,

Using the other names of LW & pictures given in my online article may help you find it out.

bhaskarraut profile image
bhaskarraut

Shooter George has become diabetic free by Long Wheat smash Dietary Regime so it better if he can reply to this question ?

Thank you. can i eat eggs /chicken with mash?

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mukesh047 in reply to

Guptaji Mumbai me Kalbadevi road pe kaha Milta hay pl Muje add donge

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Nams

Hi Anilji

Can you pls let me know what is Long wheat in hindi/marathti so that i can check with other shops in pune

zeusinus profile image
zeusinus

Where can this be found in Delhi or NCR?

What is the Hindi term for Long Wheat?

Khapli Gehun in Hindi. Go to Khaari Baoli area or Jama Masjid area. ask a good Kirana store. If he does not hv ask. Enjoy Metro. If u fail, ask a Muslim shop selling Haleem, does he use Khapli Gehun and from where. Otherwise go to Rui Ki Mandi Sadar Bazar area, ask there.

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pcraovemuri

sir

where i can get long wheat in hyderabad ,i treied begum bazar and searched all shops pl if you know tell me ,i am getting java wheat rava and eating that cooked .it is avaiable in kerala shops ,secundrabad

pcrao

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kashigari in reply to pcraovemuri

Shre Laxmi Kirana General Store, Siddiamber Bazar, Mehaboob Gunj (Near Afzal Gunj), Hyderabad.

Phone: 9989005957/9246566301/04064555286.

While going from Karachi Bakery to Afzal gunj, you will find one Gol Masjid in Centre of the road. After passing gol masjid there is alane to your left which is called mahaboob gunj. If you enter that lane and pass 4-5 shops pn your left, you can find this shop.

This shopkeeper calls it as "Makka Gehun".

Thanks to swamyonline who is also a member of this community to give this address in his previous forums.

All the best.

uppala profile image
uppala in reply to pcraovemuri

hello Rao,

Do you have any relatives in Nellore, If it So I can help.

Jayam profile image
Jayam in reply to uppala

Do you get in nellore

zeusinus profile image
zeusinus

To all on this forum - try jau (pronounced jaw)... post its pictures, and lets us ShooterGeorge or Anilgupta ji for confirmation. :-)

Jau is Barley, extremely healthy. In North where this grows abundantly Naturopaths and Ayurvedic Doctors prescribe Barley atta and small brown chana atta with whole wheat atta - 33% each. Shooter George advises his regime only b/f and dinner. For lunch, I have roti made from above. Aloso Jau are very good for kidneys. In summer it is ideal. Beer is made from Jau and also good for kidney (light version)

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ajayksinghal

LWMDR, what is Hindi name ?

uppala profile image
uppala

Hello Sir,

How are you.I was following LWMDR since mid Nov 13,Initially it looks working to me ,and HbA1C was 6.7 and after 4 months it was reached to 7.2, it was bit worrying to me.No alcoholic,non Smoker.

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ShooterGeorge in reply to uppala

Hello uppala,

I am fine, thank you.

Please provide the following details for me to comment on your report:

1. Before mid Nov 13 what was your diet pattern of an average day?

2. From mid Nov 13 what was/is your diet pattern of an average day?

3. How much dry LW do you take to cook for one day.

4. What is your body weight?

5. What was the diabetic medication pattern before LWMDR?

6. What was/is the diabetic medication pattern during LWMDR?

7. What are the fruits that you eat?

8. What are the biscuits that you eat?

9. Do you feel tension frequently?

10. Do you have medicines for any other illness? If yes what are the other medicines?

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uppala in reply to ShooterGeorge

Hello Sir, thanks for swift reply.

following are answers to your qtns.

1. Before mid Nov 13 what was your diet pattern of an average day?

BF:2 Chapatis or 3 Idli or 2 dosa with chutney, No coffee or tea.

LUNCH:2 Chapatis or 3 cups of rice more vegetables.Seasonal Fruits1 or 2

DINNER:2 Chapatis max vegetables and seasonal fruits 1 or 2.

Sweets 3 to 4 in a week.

2. From mid Nov 13 what was/is your diet pattern of an average day?

MORNING before walking :Warm water along with Lime juice.

BF:LWMDR along with Spinach(diff varieties) compulsary and No coffee or tea.

LUNCH:2 Chapatis or 3 cups of rice more vegetables.Seasonal Fruits1 or 2

DINNER:LWMDR along with one or two vegetable curries.

Fruits:3 to 4 citrus fruits in a week.

No Sweets.

3. How much dry LW do you take to cook for one day.

About 140 grms(2 x 70 grms).

4. What is your body weight?

69Kgs.

5. What was the diabetic medication pattern before LWMDR?

Amaryl 1mg past 7years in the morning before brake fast.

6. What was/is the diabetic medication pattern during LWMDR?

Amaryl 1mg. before brake fast.

7. What are the fruits that you eat?

Citrus fruits only 3 to 4 per week.

8. What are the biscuits that you eat?.

Very minimal, max of 1 small pack in a month.

9. Do you feel tension frequently?.

No.

10. Do you have medicines for any other illness? If yes what are the other medicines?

I have no other health problems except this ghost.

thnaks

Uppala.

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ShooterGeorge in reply to uppala

Hello uppala,

Thank you for the detailed reply.

Even though the quantity of LW used is correct, it is felt that what you are following IS NOT LWMDR but MODIFIED LWMDR :-)

LWMDR does not contain fruits or sweet items. Please see words in bold letters at item #1 of section appropedia.org/Diabetes_mel...

I feel that the fruits & biscuits are responsible for the increase of HbA1c from 6.7% to 7.2% in 4 months.

If you continue fruits & biscuits intake, the HbA1c may increase further.

What are the FBS & PPBS values during those 4 months?

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Amit2175 in reply to ShooterGeorge

Hello sir I am done tic since 21nov 2014 taking tablet met gl1 and vozuca0.1 what is long wheat is it jau and how can I clean it

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Amit2175 in reply to Amit2175

Sorry there is mistake in last comment I am diabetic since 21 nob 2014 last month I had HbA1c 6.1, I want to know what is long wheat is it jau? because I purchased jau from local store which is unbroken but I don't know how to clean it and prepare LWM, pls guide

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arunima in reply to ShooterGeorge

Dear shooter george Sir,

Myself arunima dasgupta .64 years of female residing in kolkata. (Calcutta).sir having diabetes from 1993 after histeroctomy my diabetes regime started and no full stop. Because of my intolerance to metformin I am on insulin plus med for other reasons. If u give permission to write in detail informations regarding my schedule drugs and etc I would be obliged. Sir I want to get rid of many med and 3 times insulin. I would like to go for long wheat . Regards

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akka789 in reply to ShooterGeorge

sir where I get long wheat is it simle wheat

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ShooterGeorge in reply to akka789

@ akka789,

Long Wheat is available in grocery or grain shops.

zeusinus profile image
zeusinus

Clarification: Jau in north india is not LW suggested by George. I apologize for the previous confusion.

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azharzaidi

What is long Wheat Mash?? Urdu or Hindi name please and thanks for such a good regimen

in reply to azharzaidi

The Khhichda is even tastier than lwm. Use Lapsi (from Khapli gehun- it is reddish in colour not creamy white when made from regular wheat. RAMZAAN MUBAARAK.

Durham24 profile image
Durham24

Thanks for all the comments.

May i know the TAMIL name for this item being referred to.

I am currently in Tamil nadu. I just want to try this.

ShooterGeorge profile image
ShooterGeorge in reply to Durham24

Chamba or Sampa or Oosi Goodumai see also appropedia.org/Diabetes_mel... LW pictures & Name in different languages

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sarathnlr in reply to ShooterGeorge

hi dear, in andhra can I get long wheat,, what do u call in telugu..can I get in vijayavada

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ShooterGeorge in reply to sarathnlr

I do not remember all the names. Please follow the link in my previous response above this; there you will get all the names of Long Wheat I have heard.

I live in Ludhiana( Punjab). LMW is not available here.My son lives in Bangalore. Is there any seller who understands it and can sell it. Please mail the message on aatamdev@yahoo.co.in.My son is diabetic for the last 20 years.

Thanks for the favour

Y.P.Gupta.

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ShooterGeorge in reply to

Hi aatamdev,

Long Wheat Mash (LWM) is Long Wheat cooked in water. I do not know whether you can buy cooked Long Wheat.

As far as I know it is cultivated in Punjab & sent to other places.

At Bangalore it is available in the names Java Godhi, Jave Godhi or Samba Wheat.

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shrisamarthVolunteer in reply to ShooterGeorge

Long wheat is not cultivated in Punjab.

thehindubusinessline.com/in...

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ShooterGeorge in reply to shrisamarth

Hi shrisamarth,

Thank you for sharing the information & helping me update/correct myself.

in reply to ShooterGeorge

Thanks for your kind gesture.I have seen the photograph 050 showing comparison between common wheat and long wheat.Being son of a farmer, I am certain that we in Punjab grow the wheat shown in the 1sth row and export to rest of the country. The second row gives the photograph of dehusked LW (grain) and the 3rd row shows LW unhusked. Can some body send 1 kg of LW grain. I have followed how to cook in water to get LWM.Further, the wheat commonly grown in Punjab has moustach type spikes at the time of harvesting.

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kbsingh1 in reply to

HI Sir aatamdev,

I am from Mohali,Punjab.Is Long wheat hulled jaun? Where can I buy it?

Thanks

in reply to kbsingh1

My Dear that is Barley. You can Mix each 33% this with chana and gehun, add 5% methi dana, grind a bit coarse, preferably make tandoori,, roti apply ghee, make paratha and restrict your calories to max 100 GM. If there is BigBasket.com you may order Java Diabetes flour which is Khapli gehun. Otherwise this and see your sugar drops like a bag of sand. 😀😁😀keep morale high. We are all with you.

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Jaffy in reply to

Dear Anil Gupta,

I mixed multigrains and made flour. Eating chapatis without any oil of this flour increased my blood sugar.

Your suggestions will be appreciated...

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cocosingh in reply to Jaffy

What multi-grains did you use? Were these different millet grains If so, please note these millets are very high in GI values (Glycemic Index), therefore, you need to add some other flours like Besan (gram flour) a little wheat flour, Oats and Barley and Rye flour (from flakes or grains) especially Oats and Barley as they have low GI which helps in bringing down the overall GI value.

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Jits in reply to ShooterGeorge

Hi Sir

Can normal people without sugar problem also consume khapli wheat? I have diabetes but my family would also like to consume preparations made out of khapli wheat so as to avoid separate cooking.

Also, if I am not able to follow the complete course because of a lot of travelling that I have to do or because of lack of dietary control , will it have an adverse impact once I stop the therapy?

Regards

Jit

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ShooterGeorge in reply to Jits

@ Jits, Khapli Wheat (LW) is oldest, original, unmodified food grain. It has sufficient starch and other components. It is sold in open market as an ordinary food grain and NOT as a special item for treating Diabetes. So I do not think that nondiabetics taking it or discontinuance after taking it for some period will pose any problem.

I know some nondiabetic people taking Long Wheat. They are still continuing and has not reported any problem.

MOREOVER I HAVE DISCONTINUED AFTER TAKING LWM FOR THREE YEARS FROM 2006 TO 2009. EVEN NOW I AM NOT EXPERIENCING ANY PROBLEM. NOW IT IS SEVEN YEARS AFTER DISCONTINUING LWMDR.

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Jits in reply to ShooterGeorge

ShooterGeorge Hidden Thanks a lot for your guidance. It helps a lot.

in reply to Jits

Sholapur has quite a market for Khapli Gehun. The Pahalwans use it in place of normal wheat. The Bohri Moslems use it for Lapsi and Khichhda. Children in the house likely to grow taller and stronger. Dont fear bro.

I have no commercial interests.

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shilpabhadoria in reply to

I got it for my husband from nilgiri store in banglore. its available in packs of 1 kg

Thanks for the arrangements. My residential is Flat -10 part A ,Aggarnagar, Ludhiana. and cell no. is 09779007135.

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kbsingh1

I have purchased broken Samba wheat online. I am about to receive it in couple of days.I will share photos.Looks like this Long wheat is available in south only.In Punjab it seems it is neither Jau nor javi. Javi may resemble LW but its dehusking is not available anywhere.

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kbsingh1

it seems Long wheat is not available in Punjab. If it is Javi it is always available with husk and no one seem to be able to dehusk it. I have ordered Samba wheat online.About to receive it in couple of days I will share the picture to confirm.Even online it was hard to order because mainly most of the dealer sell wholesale in large quantities.Keeping my fingers crossed.

in reply to kbsingh1

can you pls share the name of the portal and price.

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kbsingh1

It is

aachifoods.com/?s=Samba+Bro...

200 grams for Rs 26.

500 grams for Rs 60

I have ordered 1 kg only. Just to check it is the right one when I get it delivered at my home.

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kbsingh1

There is another one but they supply in Bangalore and may be in south only.

towness.co.in/xcart44/produ...

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kbsingh1

Please see my post 'For George Sir and Anilgupta' for photo

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shekar1906

Hi Sir,

Is there any option to purchase long wheat in online. If yes please let me know that site.

I stay in Dombivali East, Mumbai. I am not able to find long wheat in general stores.

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gaikwad62 in reply to shekar1906

sir,,it is available in aurangabad,i brought it for 100/kg.chapaties are very soft,,but reddish in colour,but tasty...gaikwad

in reply to gaikwad62

can you pls give contact details.

U can purchase from Pune by calling

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sureshskv

(LWMDR)- I what is this how it will help to control surge

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ShooterGeorge in reply to sureshskv

Hi @sureshskv Please get FBS, FSI, HbA1c, Triglycerides, HDL Cholesterol, PPBS & PPSI first to get initial condition. Then follow LWMDR for three months; repeat the above set of tests and publish both sets of results here. Then I shall try to answer/explain.

Wish you all the best.

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ShooterGeorge

Quantity of intake is what matters, not the form. Tests have shownthis.

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