due to bitter taste drinking juice is difficult. but swallowing soked is easy and nothing is wasted. is it allowed. please give me your views.
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i am taking 6 to 7 paneer ka phool for the last one week. can i swallow, soked paneer ka phool instead of smashing and drinking the juice
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Yeh nayi phool kya hai ? Aap Iski jankari de sakte ho ?
It is available in any PANSARI shop.
I am taking it for last one year and the result is excellent .Please soak 8 phools in a glass of water overnight and early morning take the left overs of Phool out and drink the water. Don't go for taste as medicine is not to be compared with tasty Juices.
It costs about Rs. 100 per Kg.
Best of Luck
I think vkgopi is mentioning about paneer-doda, its a kind of dry phools which you soak in a glass of water over night and drink that water next day morning... I also tried for couple of days but the taste is horrible.
you are supposed to drink the water and not eatthe phool, please ensure you soak them overnight and drink the water only
I request Sh V K Gopi or any body who knows to elaborate what is paneer ka phool and where it is available.I have never heard of it.
J K JAIN
09971212369
'Paneer ka phool' reffered to in here is 'Paneer doda' as explained by Mr. yogisharma68. It is avalable with 'pansari'wala / with shops which deal in herbs & base minerals.Blessings to all.
Purchase it online at attarayurveda.com
Hi ,
It is helpful for diabetes ,you can call on this number 094 131 78131.
his name is bharat.he will provid eyou paneer phool/panneer doda.
also check details on below link.
Dear all I am also prescribed this phool by an Hakim But till date not tested if any one get benefit please disclose.
• in reply to
They say i helps but i did not get any benefit and the taste and procedure quite a pain.
• in reply to
Dear Basu, Can you please advise me how the Hakim advised you to use. They are supposed to be good really but i want to know how did he ask you to use them. Pls can i hv yr number, mine is 9158992676. What are yr levels and did he tell u time it will take.
• in reply to
Dear Anil Guptaji I have not trired but an interesting fact was there behind, our company driver was got severe unknown problem here at hyderabad and gone for treat to 3-4 good hospital no one find the problem finally he was at bed for 12 day at his home total movement was blocked, as he stays at patancheru side their realtives called one hakim from Bidar area karnataka and after getting treated from him by only loacl ayurvedic medicine prepared by him , he got stand after 3 days of treatment and on completion of 15 days he again join for driving at our company ti date continuing, just he taken me to that hakim and the hakim told me to take 3-4 paneer ka phool keeping in a glass of water only drink the water but till date i have not applied this so sorry no experience.
• in reply to
Dear Basu, Do u hv diabetes? If yes pls try Paneer Doda Phool in addition to your medicines as advised by Hakim. They repair the Beta cells in pancreas, slowly taking u off medication and curing ultimately. Munnalal Dawasaj in Hyderabad will be able to provide you the phool. I arranged today in Pune ad will try them from tomorrow morning.
• in reply to
Dear Anilguptaji
Great advice for all diabetic I will do try it definitely can you please help by providing contact no or e mail id of Munnalal Dawasaj in Hyderabad I am 100% interested in it My mail id is paul_basudev@yahoo.com and contact no is 9000688893
• in reply to
I have given you the address in yr email. MUNNALAL DAWASAZ :
#15-5-55, Afzal Gunj , Hyderabad-500012.
Tel : 040-24601367,66463848.
vijay124• in reply to
Anil gupta sir i need advive on panner pool plz help me msg me your mail adress or contact no
Where can i buy them
Peace7• in reply to
Mr. Gupta, can I ask, after experimenting for 13 days, how has been the result of the paneer phool with you ?
• in reply toPeace7
See my PP BG was upto 450. I had started insulin leaves about 45 days ago. Since progress was not there, I stared paneer k phool about 13 days ago. Now my PP was 196 today. In addition I take small karela juice and also 1 heaped tea spoon Madhumehantak Churan (Krishna Herbal- bought from SnapDeal); 1/4 powder jamoon seeds, 1 spoon dried karela pdr to bring down quickly and eliminating most allopathic drugs as they were increasing my weight.
Peace7• in reply to
Has all these natural treatments helped you to reduce your weight ? I ask this for I am too struggling with this issue.
• in reply toPeace7
with reduction of allopathic medicines i did loose about 8 kg but now stuck since 1 month - no further reduction.
Peace7• in reply to
Your reduction of 8 kgs is very good achievement. I do take a homeopathic Mother Tincture of Jamun and it helps in keeping sugar in control. I do not know if I have to add anymore medicines so that I can reduce intake of Metformin 500.
• in reply toPeace7
yr age, m/f, wt, ht, current level of allopathic medication. I will share my experience but i am no doctor.
yogisharma68• in reply to
I was once told by the doctor that taking too many ayurvedic things may cure your sugar levels but could damage the Liver... so I would suggest be careful and if still your sugar levels are controlled with these things and you feel like continuing with them, pls do go for a complete liver test periodically....
NishuG• in reply to
Dear Mr. Gupta
A friend of mine told me about Paneer Doda 3 days back and said that her mother was controlling diabetes for 30 years with this.
Now, I purchased and tried it today for the first time. The PP sugar level shot upto 225 (normally it is under 140).
I am a little perturbed. Is this normal?
Looking forward to your reply.
Thanks.
• in reply toNishuG
Nishuji, If you dont mind pls answer. How many phools and how much water? How did u hv them. What time? What and when did u eat be4 the phool, and similarly what and when u ate after the phool. What time did u check yr BS. What did yu do between the time u ate the phool and checked yr BS. What time did u take walk/exercise. I am not a Doctor, not very intelligent and mind works at relaxed pace, so asked u these questions. Intentions are to try and help u. Dont be scared u continue sister.
NishuG• in reply to
Thank you Anilji
for your response.
I had put 10 flowers in a glass of water. I had that water around 7 am, first thing after I got up.
My breakfast time is 8.30, hence had my insulin shot (Novo rapid - 10 units), a Gymnema Sylvestre-Gurmar capsule before the breakfast that comprised of wholewheat bread with a boiled egg and ginger tea.
Following this I took my ayurvedic medicine for diabetes.
I sat down to finish some work and then checked my BS at 10.30.
I exercised for about 15 minutes at about 10.45.
I was diagnosed with Diabetic Ketoacidosis on 31st March 2013. My HBA1C was 14.3 then. After 4 days in the hospital I was sent home with the following medication:
Novorapid thrice a day (before b/f and lunch-14 units and before dinner-10 units and JANUMET 50/1000 twice day). Every night I took Lantus shot of 18 units.
Over the months, the Novorapid has reduced to 10 units twice and 8 units once; Lantus remains at 18 units. JANUMET 50/500 is twice a day.
My last HBA1C, done about 4 months ago, was 6.3.
My doctor has assured me that in about 6 months time I will be completely off of insulin.
I would like to benefit from your experiences with DIabetes. Please advise.
which city you belong to NishuG, and which doctor you refer.
I am diabetic for last 12 years and now taking Istamet 50/100 = amrayl 3 mg twice daily and lantus 32 unit night. but now a days sugar is not in limit.
Please advise.
• in reply to
You can soak 15-20 Paneer phool ( depending on your blood sugar levels my suger level was @250-270 so I am taking 17 Paneer phool but remember I am not taking any other medications) overnight and consume it on empty stomach at morning. You will see nothing till 20-25 days but after that your blood sugar levels will be noticeable low.( Depending person to person as some time it can take 1 month also) now my suger level is 90-99 and I can eat anything including sweet and rice etc. But please consult with aayurvedic doctor before starting this Paneer phool as once your blood sugar levels will low, you will be in problem bcz your sugar will not get normal by doing anything as Paneer phool works as natural insulin. Hence quantity of the phool is very much important. Hence it is advisable that you start with low amount and after 25 days increase the phool as per you blood sugar levels.
Harjeet• in reply to
My blood sugar level is around 250 Fasting and 330 PP after taking 2500mg Metformin with other combined salts, in your post I have read about paneer phool first time and I am not aware of it please advice from wheree I can get paneer phool and how to use it.
• in reply to
from 460 i reached 160 yesterday with Ayur which included Paneer Doda. All strong allopathic meds are off also. I also use Lonbg wheat quite regularly since last 4 days..
Harjeet• in reply to
Please advise how to use paneer dooda and along with which allopathic medicines as my blood sugar level is not coming down from 260 Fasting,
I did not know Paneer had fools too. I have paneer butter masala.
Good one Nitin. I enjoyed this. Its good and safe to target the phool.
• in reply toeverexotic
It may be a local name as u are from paneer butter masala group can't understand herb and their local name.
Most stupid and gone case comment
What I did was crush a week's supply in (dry) Mixer and store in fridge. Soak your requirement in half cup water. Drinking of this slurry is easy and hassle free. What is the improvement.
• in reply to
If you still find it tough, strain the slurry in fine cloth and then squeezed out from what is on the top
steveconey• in reply to
Hello sir, Do you grind the Phool in a blender then use the powder in water? and how much to water ratio? thank you...
Any shop selling Ayurvedic herbs and powders. Where do you stay?
vasani• in reply to
GUPTAJI, I AM STAYING IN VADODARA GUJARAT. FROM WHERE I CAN OBTAIN PANEER KA PHOOL? How much it cost approximately? My email is patelbabubhai3@gmail.com
• in reply tovasani
In Mumbai someone got it 150/kg. In Delhi one got it @200/kg. I got itin pune @300/kg. 250g is ok to start. Go to yr city centre and find out shop selling Ayurvedic herbs and powders. very light and hence very cheap.
yogisharma68• in reply to
In South Delhi, I got half KG in Rs. 60/-, i.e. 120/kg... sometime in Oct. 2013
manjeet1984• in reply to
Hi Anil Ji can you tell me where can i get Paneer ka Phool in mumbai as one of the Company SpicyOnion is selling it Rs.900 to 1000 for 1 Kg and that is too much as you have told you have got it for Rs.150 in mumbai please let me know the address from where you got it my number 9167149949
• in reply tomanjeet1984
I don't stay in Mumbai. I don't know anything about it.
Please you have the Paneer ka doda from Pansari ki shop, who kees herbals, very easily.
Harjeet• in reply to
Please tell from where I can get paneer phool as I reside at Mohali (punjab)
Many friends didn't understand what is Paneer ka phool.
please elaborate in simple language. what are the results.
Thanks
chhabra
• in reply tochhabra
google. No spoon feeding.
It may be available at some Aurvedik stores.I tried it in Bhilwara (Rajasthan) and got it from a PANSARI stores. Since last 2o days I am taking it regularly but Sugar level not yet tested.As I understood from a person using this told it controls diabetes.It may take about six months to cure if regularly used. the procedure of making daily dose is -
Soak 6-7 Paneer ka phools in 1/2 a glass of water over a night and next morning filter with thin cloth. Drink the filtered water empty stomach. At least for 1/2 hour do not take any other things.
• in reply toGospi
if u start anything new monitor close. Or one day u cud slip into a coma. If u wr a pilot u wud be flying without a radar.
My wife is diabetic and these paneer ke phool were taken for 6 months,the first month showed tremendous difference and the bs pp came down to quite impressive level,but after that no improvement was found and we left it.
• in reply tonmmalhotra08
She must hv restarted her sugar and sweets. Increased her diet and stopped her exercise. Diabetes management is 33% medicine, 33% diet, 34% exercise, prayers and general relaxed mood. If she gets angry with u her pancreas will stop working. No joking mate.
VijayD4• in reply to
Superb answer and explanation of 33/33/34.theory. Appreciated
PANEER KA PHOOL is useful and i am using it and my brother also using for many years .it is damn cheap item
Rs.50 for 250 grms and can go for 5months costing 10 per month. easily available with shops selling herbal items like triphla and many other desi herbals.
raj kumar agarwal
Please inform your contact details so that i can get it from you
krishnan
me from kolkatta i can send from kolkata if anyone wants
thnks
raj kumar agarwal
Dear Agrawal ji will it be convenient for you to send some quantity to me,I shall be obliged...................J C Pandey,C/187 Sector 49,NOIDA(UP) 201301
• in reply tomanane
take a metero to Khari baoli. Buy paneer doda and yr spices from there. Also dry fruits, good quality, cheaper.
The SpicyOnion Export House from Kolkata is selling Paneer Ka Phool/Paneer doda to costly they are selling it @ Rs.900 to 1000 whereas as per Anil Gupta ji it is available in local market or ayurvedic medicine shops @ Rs. 150-300
• in reply torkktm
pls tell the price/kg
Dear Rajkumar jee,
Can you please deliver paneer ke phool at Sinthee, Kolkata ? My contact Number is 9934390234 / 033-25566929 and email address is pdmdl@yahoo.co.in Alternatively please mail me your contact address so that I can visit your place at Kolkata and get it delivered . What is called this item in local Bengali ? Thanks hoping support
Dear manane, i enquired courier charges too much and item is cheap.
i can tell u one shop where u get it in delhi- khari baoli chandni chowk.dont know the name ofshop but i can explain so thaat u have no probelm
my ID rkktm@hotmail.com
thanks and pls dont hesitate to ask anything if u feel like.
Have anyone tried this please respond.
Diabetes: Mix a cup of watercress seeds (jal-halim) with a cup of whole kalonji, half a cup of pomegranate peel, and half a cup of fumitory(shahtara/ pitpapra). Grind the mixture to powder. Take half a teaspoon of the mixture together with a teaspoon (5ml) of kalonji oil daily before breakfast for one month.
If I forget to soak, i use some from the small stock i hv ground in mixer and swallow like u. Same result. You should not take anything blindly. Take only those which hae been used since ages. There are also tests for Liver and kidney health which you should do every year or 6 months depending on current status. Ask the Dr if he can guarantee in writing that his medicines are free from side effects. Allopathic meds affect liver, kidney and screw up the pancreas totally. Ayur helps bring under control through repair work. This why some of our here to share and learn what works best.
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As long as it goes inside its ok to start with, Try soaking in 1/4 glass water (no metal) squeeze well and strain. You will develop liking for taste, like cheese flavour. Better than whiskey. ok. Delhi they are very cheap, here in pune 320-400/kg
ranj• in reply to
Dear Mr Anil Gupta what is the latest improvement in your BS after using Paneer doda for last 3 months.
see my bs is now 115-189 max. It used to go upto 470. Most of my allopathic medicines are out. But pls do not be misled as I am also taking insulin leaves since nearly 4 months and they have their own controlling as well as curaive effect. Also i am taking long wheat mash diet as advised by Shooter George. He is a tough task master. Drayurved prescribed some ayurvedic medicines which i have now mostly replaced the allopathic medicines I am very active now, in good mood. There has also been considerable spiritual guidance and motivation by my guru Peace7. Diabetes does not come by single reason and i think it takes more than one solution with faith, blessings of God and support of community. I owe it to Drayurveda, Peace7 and Shooter George (in alphabetic order as my sugar level is low now and mind needs a cup of tea. I have tried to repay by guiding others. I do not sell anything.
ranj• in reply to
Thank you for guidance. Detected DMT2 few years back at the level of 165/325 with Hba1c of 9.5. I had taken the Metformin just one month and thereafter I am controlling through my diet, walking and home remedial / ayurveda and maintaining the level of 115-200 and quarterly Hba1c ranging to 5.5 - 7. I have been using paneer doda since one month and will check the BS in few days. I had tried most of the home remedial one by one or simultaneously 1-2 but could not identify which one is more effective for me. So for last one month I am sticked to Paneer Doda only. Let us see how much it controls my Sugar level. I have searched for insulin leaves and its hindi name is Keukand but I had never heard this name. Do you chew this leaves or take as churna. I could not find Long wheat in my area.
• in reply toranj
Keukand is Costus speciousus. It is used for fever etc. Insulin leaves are from Costus Pictuys and Costus Igneus. ( two names as colour of flower is little different) properties supposed to be similar. Long wheat is Khapli Gehun. Feb new crop will come. Where do u stay? let us know abt yr progress with Paneer Doda.
ranj• in reply to
Thank you for informing the correct name of Insulin leaves. I have googled the same and found interesting research article which concludes that it is not effective. I stay in Chandigarh and could find Khapli Gehun at any grocery shop. Yes, I will definitely let you know my latest BS level after receiving my strips.
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Glucose uptake was not significantly increased by C. pictus extract and the extract was found to be less effective than insulin. The glucose uptake was significantly more in all the groups tested except in the C. pictus group, when compared to the control group. Results were compared with those of insulin (injectable antidiabetic) and metformin (oral antidiabetic), which were used as a standard antidiabetic drugs. Insulin (1 IU/ml) and metformin (100 μg/ml) enhanced the glucose uptake by 148.79 ± 4.64% and 71.50 ± 6.25%, respectively, over control. The extract was also tested with insulin to confirm any synergistic effect, but results indicated that the extract did not have any synergistic effect with insulin. The extract and insulin enhanced the glucose uptake in L6 cells by 149.76 ± 5.15% over control, when used together. In India, C. pictus is grown in garden, especially in Kerala, where the fresh raw leaves are eaten by diabetic people. It is turning out be a munching dietary supplement for diabetes, as it is thought to lower raised blood sugar level considerably.
In conclusion, we found that the extract of C. pictus leaves does not significantly stimulate glucose uptake by L6 skeletal muscle cells. It appears that C. pictus has no direct peripheral action. Further studies with estimation of insulin and insulin receptor may give more insight into the mechanism of the antidiabetic activity of C. pictus D. Don.
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• in reply toranj
you have written could find it in any grocery shop. Is it correct or you did not find it? Season is Feb. Now should begin to get it soon.
ranj• in reply to
Sorry, I mean to say that I could not find Long Wheat in Chandigarh area.
• in reply toranj
I agree - I tried both and they did nothing at all. You could try Lagerstoemia speciosa (aka Banaba) instead. it is grown all over India. You can combine it with bougainvillea. Leaves only for both plants. For Lagerstroemia, pick only the leaves that have turned orange or brown as they contain the highest active glucose-lowering agent called corosolic acid. Just infuse the leaves like tea.
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Peace7• in reply to
Guptaji, please do not flatter me......I have done nothing to deserve this, but I am glad I could motivate you. Keep it Up !!!!!!
swati-mrugi• in reply to
Hi There Gupta ji. I have read the complete thread and must say am impressed by your determination and the results thereof. I have a stubborn PP that is leading me to Insulin shots (I am afraid). However, I do not wish to get on to insulin as I have seen the side effects it brought to my mother who succumbed to kidney failures at an early age.
Needed to know what are these "insulin leaves" that you are constantly mentioning? Shall appreciate if you can update us on the same.
Secondly do Paneer ke Phool have Sulphur in it? I am strongly allergic to Sulpha and Pennicilin. My friend has couriered these phool to me from Jaipur and I wanted to be doubly sure before starting it. Chanced upon this thread and am so happy to be part of this group. Very informative.
Thank you all, Regards,
Swati.
• in reply toswati-mrugi
can you take eggs? Eggs are also rich in Sulphur and hence decayed eggs smell of H2S? Sulphur, in nature's products, comes in compounded form, not elemental sulphur. God alone knows if a guy sprayed anything containing suplha or pennicilin. You can take the product to an analytical lab owned and run by a PhD and seek his advise. I do not have a lab and unable to respond competently. Sorry Ma'm.
swati-mrugi• in reply to
Dear Gupta ji, No I can't eat eggs. Even half an inch of boiled egg consumption causes vomits and severe allergy on whole body with blisters every where. Hence a bit worried. I did check through some research papers yday that talk about chemical composition. There are alkanoids and binding item is Sulphur. But I am not sure, as you rightly said, need to get it checked from some lab etc.
• in reply toswati-mrugi
Paneer Doda- you could start with one and go upto 7 increasing 1 per day if you feel good and without allergy. This is dark yellow and the pigment could be from Sulphur, so be very careful. Insulin leaves are dark green and raspberry like taste which is not so with Sulphur containing foods. You could be safer there. Also the plant needs sand and some red soil, grows fast and so i feel it does not get the sulphur as it grows. Start with one small leaf and then go up 2 leaves morning, 2 evg. Also try guduchi/giloy leaves and for faster result..I feel sorry.
i am managing all diseases through ayurveda or herbal therapy since last 30 years here in mumbai India. my grandfather and father both were very successful practitioners. I got training from them. thanks
• in reply torksharma1091
are you also a doctor?
Can you elaborate, how you are managing thru herbal therapy.
Sharmaji, Unless you are a friend of Chidambhadam you would be more transparent. This is a forum for group discussion and collective enlightenment not to boast. You would have been blessed by all if you shared with us what they taught u on Diabetes and Obesity. Knowledge does not get depleted by sharing - it only multiplies. Since you are a noble Brahmin I remind you in greatest humility. If you share the departed souls will smile at you from the Heavens.
can i have powder instead of paneer ka phool
I tried doing this for a month. However removing wheat form meals caused my Haemoglobin to drop 2-3 points. I do not eat rice and had also removed wheat from my intake. How else to reduce carbs from the diet?
• in reply toswati-mrugi
Easy - just incorporate immature jackruit into your diet. You have to cook it along with curry for example for at least 45 minutes. Infuse the leaves of jackfruit in boiling water to drink as tea. For a stronger brew, decoct the leaves instead of infusing them. Both of them have powerful effects so don't over do them.
I phoned his clinic. They said I should not take rice and continue with all allopoathic meds plus the ones they send and it will take time.
Hi
I m mother of 6 month baby and i have gained around 12 kg during delivery which i want to reduce.some one suggested me to use paneer ka phool for weight reduction.i m feeding my daughter.i m in doubt tht while feeding can i use paneer phool or not.please advice
Hello
I just checked the bs n it is 314 fasting.
Can it be improved by pander phool alone or I need to take allopathic medicines
What is your diet? Which drugs you are taking?
Please soake seeds at least 10 over night in half glass of water and drink only water in morning empty stomach and do not take anything upto half an hour. Number of seeds
depends on your levels if very high you may increase it.
Yes taste is a little bit bitter but not so unbearable. If it works in your case try it for at least
20 days and then go for test if works continue it.
Hello sir
I am Dhananjaya.B.R I am staying
In Bangalore.
Can u suggest me panner doda where it was avilable in Bangalore.
Mail Id. brdhananjaya4@gmail.com.
Phone no: 9986177199
Thank you.
You can find it here attarayurveda.com/product/p...
Can we use the powder form of paneer Doda for diabeties?
Hey everyone I read all your queries regarding consumption and purchase of paneer phool/doda.
Its my real life experience, i have used it and it really works like magic. You can find procedure to use it at attarayurveda.com/product/p... . Also you can purchase it from there only at just Rs.320 which last for more than 30 days.
Hope my comment helped others
"Attar Ayurveda" provides detailed information about herbs. Also, they sell the herbs at reasonable rates with the best quality in town. I am a regular visitor of this site and recommend you to do the same.
You can purchase the paneer doda (fully sorted) at attarayurveda.com
Hi All,
Can anyone clarify my doubt. Taking Paneer dodi powder with milk and Soaking Panee Dodi flower overnight and having only water next day in empty stomach
Which method is very effective in getting good results
Thanks
Dinkar
Dear Gopi
Don't swallow . It inner part is rough and has hard fibre to digest . Hence , after soaking and using water , you can resoak the same into water three times . But suggestion is for second and third time soaking the same seed , put it into fridge , for avoiding restricting its fermenting smell . you can use a ponch of Sounf ( fennel or aniseed in english) to suppress the smell .
But never and never swallow.
thaks
M. K. Acharya
New Delhi
I you are very very great sir, pl mention the details of book, I like your attitude
What's your current BS level and last hbA1c? What other medicines are you on with paneer doda? Does you meals include more of grains / rice / pulses or less of them?
is it effective against type 1 too ?
Sir my dad is diabetic from last 13 years. From last few months, he has severe pain in legs (diabetic neuropathy). He can't walk more than 10-15 steps. He doesn't even eat properly now.
Will this herb help?
Anyone please reply
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I am taking millet for the past 7 weeks and no rice milk curd my present sugar level is 300 not taking any tablet how to reduce sugar wkg
