About 6 or 8 weeks ago I got into a fight in my sleep (this is really rare nowadays) and discovered that the grass fed beef jerky I had been eating had soy in it. I avoid soy but did not think to read the label (the type is so small!).
I have been fine since then, but last night I kicked the wall a couple of times. Then I reviewed what I ate yesterday and discovered the beef and onions and mushrooms and cabbage dish my wife made also had Bragg Aminos, which is a soy sauce alternative. What do you know: Bragg Aminos is made from soybeans.
Those that know me, know I focus on avoiding lectins, improving my microbiome, and improving gut permeability (fixing leaky gut).
Do... just did some Googling. Soy is FULL of lectins. And soy is bad for leaky gut. Hopefully this was my trigger and avoiding soy should set things straight.
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Agree on all the points - FOOD MATTERS. My list of recommended foods drills down to a very specific number of foods that will eliminate the action dreams and 98% shut down all movement. I have experienced some hand movement when I cross the lecting threshold because all plants have lectins- quantity is the driver. The real test will be when combined with ALL. Hoping to get experiment started in the next month where we will have DATScan video monitoring to document the success.
Isn't it true though that you also have another coincident variable, which is concentrated and dehydrated animal protein, which is what you get from your jerky, and also something they have and soy, and especially concentrated in soy sauce, and fish sauce, it's extracted and concentrated from high protein sources that are fish based or soy based. Basically concentrated MSG. Glutamic acid. A stimulant. A neurostimulant. And sorry, apart from lectins, well I have a feeling that beef jerky has a lot of tyramine in it, the same risk people run when they take many (and all of the original) MAOIs, monoamine oxidation inhibitors, where they strongly caution you that while taking them, to avoid aged cheese, wine, because you can blow your blood pressure into the moon and a few other nasty things too, and these are Black Box warnings when you talking about MAOIs. Just a thought but you know what tyramine is a precursor of... Dopamine! All of them have, guess what, L-dopa precursors. .
My friend you have stumbled into the chemical world of the other side of the mirror image of dopamine, which is about depression and antidepressants and psychosis and antipsychotics, all of which deal with to some extent dopamine (and especially the antipsychotics which are concerned with dopamine. If you had two hands and those two hands were dopamine, the left hand would be parkinson's, and the right hand would be depression and psychosis. They're both all about dopamine. And dopamine's chemical brother, epinephrine (the recent name for adrenalin, the fight or flight stimulant hormone). (If you don't, try looking it up.) .
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So maybe you're inhibiting monoamine oxidase too much... And by the way I guess that soy protein that has been aged or processed has in it...yep, lots of Tyramine, and it has lots of MSG (another nerve stimulant) and you know what all of those have in common as their root mechanistic relative: MSG and aspartic acid (as in aspartame). And a major neurological pathway involving MSG metabolism is: aspartate, ie glutamic and aspartic acid. Glutamate, and even more so aspartate, is a a potent and even neurotoxic (in more than naturally brain-produced doses) neuro-stimulant... And they realized, in the case of aspartame, it was so stimulative they can use it just like MSG to overstimulate your taste buds so they put it in just about everything now. It will be in your beef jerky and so will glutamate, especially glutamate. In fact it's kind of like speed for your taste buds. And for your neurons. Aspartate, the kind produced in quantity outside your body by companies, made its first fame as NutraSweet. All of these terms, you can look up on Wikipedia by the way and read them a few times and then you'll sort of get the idea how it relates to us. {Not to mention all the nitrates you're consuming with the beef jerky, if you like giving yourself cancer, this is a good way to get on that highway.}
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So you see maybe it's possible you have been dosing yourself with potentially toxic neurostimulants that are related to your own brain activation pathways. Maybe find something else then beef jerky. Try to stay away from MSG, "hydrolyzed vegetable protein" (another name for MSG) and aspartame. See if that doesn't make a difference or at least back you off from the acute shelf you have been on.
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Think of it this way: suppose you were to think of taking milk, have some warm milk, that's something that helps get you on the way to sleep at bedtime. Now consider what you're doing instead which is basically taking one, maybe two kinds of agitating speed before bed. Anyway that's the idea.
Thanks for the detailed response. I might agree, except that my foray into beef jerky was an aberration. My wife found the beef jerky on sale and I ate a bunch of it without checking the ingredients.
Eating the beef dish my wife made was another aberration. Over the years, with my dietary experiments, we have grown to prepare our own separate meals.
I literally eat the exact same food every week, and except for my Pepsi (with real sugar) and every 2 week tub of ice cream (with real sugar) I don't eat ANY processed food.
Every day I have broccoli sprouts with my home made dressing, a bowl of pistachios, some dried ginger, and either some of my own grass fed beef dish (beef, onions, butter, Worcester sauce) or some hard boiled eggs or some sardines or some canned tuna. Or some combination of those things. I might have some aged cheddar from grass fed cows too sometimes.
So... anyway... I don't know what these triggers mean, or what benefit there is to my avoiding triggers and sleeping well. I know things are going pretty well (please don't jinx myself). I've been married for 32 years and my wife says I am operating at my best level, physically and mentally, as she has ever seen. But that may be because I stopped drinking a couple years ago. Keeping my fingers crossed that if I avoid triggers, and avoid RBD, I will avoid progression.
You know I like your recipe and pattern you have very much. Makes a lot of sense I may look into changing to come closer to that myself. I happen to like all those foods.
I can't have any MSG, and it's hidden in so many things. It causes immediate dumping and I know when I've accidentally eaten some. Glutamate excitotoxicity is the root of neurodegeneration. MSG is a neurotoxin. It's poison to people who have NDD.
Makes my tongue blister for hours into days depending on how much I've had. One day I had a Snickers candy bar. Guess what it was filled with? One day I had a couple of Werther's, another time it was a mint. They put that stuff in everything.
I try to. I'm also extremely sensitive to a lot of food additives (that started pre-PD), so I mostly try to avoid processed foods. I ALWAYS read labels, but it's a lot easier to just eat unprocessed or minimally processed. I try to buy organic as much as possible, pastured, grass fed, local, etc.
I've tried to do keto, but I can never stick with it because I just don't like meat or eggs that much (I never have), and I end up losing too much weight.
I don't usually notice my diet making much of a difference in my PD symptoms, but I've been thinking about doing an elimination diet to see if there are other things besides soy that are negatively affecting me.
I don't have RBD (yet), but I had several instances of yelling in my sleep a year or two ago.
I just am very avoidant of it in general. I love Asian food so when I cook I will put a little fish sauce and soy sauce, otherwise I stay away from this stuff... I've had to. Makes my tongue blister and it's painful, it's like I have canker sores until they heal. And if I happen to be using any medicines that are anticholinergic like antihistamines, then it's even worse because there's dry mouth that goes with it and that means there's nothing between the chemical and your tongue. It's like a burn that turns into a canker sores little ones all over your tongue and that takes a day or two to quit. You need to read up on these. It's easy enough, just ask the internet.
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