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Photobiomodulation device - Neuronic Neuradiant 1070

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Has anyone come across or used this helmet for Parkinson's symptoms?

neuronic.online/collections...

I've been offered a trial by a brain health clinic. I should be able to post an update about my own experience in a couple of months

The wavelength it uses is 1070nm. Neuronic say this on their website FAQ:

Q. What is the difference between 810nm and 1070nm?

A. The 810nm was the original wavelength used in multiple trials, but recent studies have shown the 1070nm to potentially be more effective.

One person left this review:

"I have Parkinson’s for nine years now. The neuronic device has made me feel much better in just a few weeks. But even more exciting than that I am fortunate enough to have a huge breakthrough with my walking! I now have longer smoother strides than the typical halting steps of Parkinson’s. Along with the joy of my improved gait- my posture is far more upright with no uncontrolled forward lean. There Is less stiffness overall. I would say that maybe the neuronic device has turned back some symptoms to where I was six or seven years ago."

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PDTom

I use the Vielight helmet in gamma mode (40Hz) at 810nm. My condition has been relatively stable for almost 2 years. Whereby I use many more therapies!

You mean the "Neurinic helmet" for about 3,000 euros. If it is really that effective, I would consider trying it out.

Has anyone had any experience?

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Hmop in reply to PDTom

Tell me please when can I find Vielight, thanks

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jimcaster in reply to Hmop

vielight.com/brain-photobio...

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Hmop in reply to jimcaster

Thanks

this one?

youtube.com/watch?v=r6WToYC...

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freefallmode in reply to

That's it. Thanks

report back when you do the trial

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Hmop

Please let me know when could I buy and the price. Thanks

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freefallmode in reply to Hmop

neuronic.online/collections...

Seems to be about US$3000

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Hmop in reply to freefallmode

Thanks! Expensive for me..

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Hmop in reply to Hmop

But if Really helps should I buy? Sorry my English

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IEFras11 in reply to Hmop

Try Wellred its a lot cheaper

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Hmop in reply to IEFras11

Could you please give me a link

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Bolt_Upright

Interesting (and expesive): Photobiomodulation for Alzheimer's disease with modulated 1070-nm light medicalxpress.com/news/2021...

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kaypeeoh

I thought a red light emitting bucket was weird but then saw the Vielight shoves a probe up your nose. Theory is the light shining onto the brain is better than anything on the skull. I haven't gone forward because of fear that it won't work. Vielight rebates 80% if the client isn't satisfied. So once I'm ready then I'll go forward I'll order the Vielight.

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Jensneiser

I heard there is a new helmet device by symbyxbiome.com which was just tested positively in a study. Maybe compare it to Vielight and neuronic?

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Ktno

I have been using a red light helmet called ‘coronet’ from this group out of Australia. It has a 25 minute cycle. I use daily except when out of town. I started within 6 months of diagnosis, I was diagnosed 3.5 years ago. I just assume it is slowing the progression, but don’t really know! I do believe in the power of positive thinking……so it is positively working!

redlightsonthebrain.blog/co...

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JayPwP

This is from the website

810nm & 1070nm - What is the difference?

neuronic.online/pages/810nm...

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JayPwP

Any update on this?

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freefallmode

Not yet. I'm still waiting to get an appointment for the trial. Will repost when/if things go ahead

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Biohacker2020

hopefully not a marketing ploy here

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RonHarding

The Neuradiant has the same design as a hair regrowth helmet, I think it's just a relabeled hair regrowth helmet from China resold by two young Europeans and an unlicensed "therapist" that's on Quackwatch: quackwatch.org/mental-healt...

They disguise the fact that it's a private labeled Chinese product through clever marketing and qEEG gimmicks. Here's a helmet from their manufacturer which you can private label for yourself: suyzekom.com/p/Photobiomodu...

Copypasted: The real power power density mW/cm2 is only 7 to 9 mW/cm2, much lower than the 20 to 40 mW/cm2 claimed by Neuronic according to Alex Fergus. For context, that's less than 10% of sunlight's strength... I believe it's a scam company and product.

youtu.be/TnM5eRPvfC4?t=182

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awfultruth99 in reply to RonHarding

I don't think that is a fair review of the Neuraradiant 1070. A careful look at the product and people involved does in no way indicate scam to me. I have no personal experience with the device nor financial connection but from looking at their website and Marvin Berman's and at several research papers involving 1064 wavelength light I think it is a product deserving a close look. I have heard of Dr Berman before this as someone substantial involved in the neurofeedback field. He seems like the real deal.

Here's an interview with Dale Bredesen and Marvin Berman on brain stimulation: facebook.com/watch/live/?re...

As for it being a Chinese hair growth device, well I have no idea if there is any connection to the Chinese product you give a link for but it's not the same wavelength so it's not the exact same device. Possibly the same manufacturer makes both products but I have no information about that.

Also Alex Fergus's review does not take the device to be a scam but says he wants to test it more thoroughly and to have one of the developers on his program.

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RonHarding in reply to awfultruth99

Yes, it's the same manufacturer that's offering it's products for private labeling: suyzekom.com/p/Photobiomodu...

Here's the Neuronic helmet for comparison: neuronic.online/products/10...

Here's another company with the same helmet: mitoredlight.com/products/m...

Neuronic didn't develop their own product. They rushed to market with a Chinese hair regrowth helmet and they're disguising it through clever marketing.

Their team consists of a bunch of hungry 20 year olds and unlicensed psychologist.

On the Neuronic website, they steal research from other universities and companies that use different devices and parameters. They have no published peer-reviewed proof with their devices.

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