Biology of trauma

[LAJ12345]

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Interesting theory on how trauma in early life causes shut down

I listened to it 1.75 speed as I find the speaking a bit slow but might be because we New Zealanders talk fast😊

[HekateMoon]

Amazing piece. It brought so much together for me in terms of how natural development bringing ease, safety and health in return vs the forced frozen way that we have been moulded into that has twisted our bodies and lives left right and centrr, and that we consider "natural"...but are quite sick.

[LAJ12345 in reply to HekateMoon]

Yes, I think it explains a lot of PD symptoms. Perhaps it’s not chemistry that needs fixing after all.

[HekateMoon in reply to LAJ12345]

Hi LAJ. I'm convinced there is so much more to all of this. Chemistry is a part of it...at least the awareness of how following less than natural ways of growing up have separated us from our own ease and nature, with the mediation of the vagus nerve and all the hormones, microglia neurotransmitters and all their choir that becomes more and more inflamed and in disharmony. The use of good nourishing foods, gentle exercise, music etc is probably a very much needed to bring comfort and healing to those disassociated parts of ourselves. Is a way to tell the wounded child, here, you are number one. Have some berries, lets listen to music, and breathe, and dance and bring self love and nature into ourselves. Lets bring ourselves into connection...and perhaps with this constant commitment we may heal. There may still be hope.

Chelo

[Boscoejean]

I would like to hear from anyone who has Parkinsons who has not experienced a traumatic event. My past experience is that the two individuals that I had met who had Parkinsons were veterans with particularly bad experiences - one in WW2 and one in Vietnam. From what a person reads there can be circumstances such as exposure to environmental toxins, food poisoning, family history and viral infections that are more common in the history of people who are later diagnosed with Parkinsons.

[kevowpd in reply to Boscoejean]

To the extent that they are overrepresented in the PWP population, such a situation could readily be explained by war vets having been exposed to nasty chemicals. I bet the PPE (at least in regards not breathing in fumes etc), on offer in the wars you describe was either useless or non existant.

If trauma and or stress was a key driver of PD development, youd see big PD upticks in places where civilians have been displaced by war. Ive never seen such observations published.

[Boscoejean in reply to kevowpd]

good point - the Vietnam veteran was exposed to Agent Orange - the WW2 vet may have been more likely PTSD - he enlisted at age 16 - he was in the S Pacific and the troops were being parachuted into the jungle - some of the parachutes did not open

[HekateMoon in reply to kevowpd]

Hi Jevowpd.I believe dissociation is a symptom of trauma. So is becoming stuck in unhealthy behavioral repetitive and destructive patterns.

I grew up in Spain during the Franco dictatorship. I an detect it all over the country even 40 years after his death.

I wouldn't say most people suffering from trauma identify themselves as such no matter how hard and ill and destructive their lives have become.

The amount of rape, child abuse, school and work bullying after such terrible events goes hugely underreported. Is only when disease or addiction bring people to their knees that they stop saying 'yeah, i was beaten but it made me stronger".

Trauma is multi-generational, its silent,its extensive and unfortunately war and atrocities are part of it. And disease is a very common response to the overwhelm to body and mind.

It is not denying that chemicals can contribute to the development of any disease. So is trauma.

I can suggest reading.

Alice Miller The drama of being a child

Gonzalez Maldonado

Parkinson y estrès(not sure if it is in english)

Trauma and recovery (Judith Lewis Bergman)

They opened my eyes to how cleverly the body responds to such events.

Regards

Chelo

[HekateMoon]

Hi Boscoejean. There are what i call the "blow in your face trauma". (Quite literal in the case of war veterans and survivors)as well as in the case of child abuse, accidents etc. Then there are the traumas they talk about in the above video. Experiences that separate an infant from developing naturally, by for instance force the quality of "independence"when our dependence needs are not mhese experiences that everyone has had and that we ignore as "it didnt do me any harm", but keep us running away from the natural way, like headless chickens until we are so exhausted, and twisted that we are full of shakes and with half our engines running in one gear...i believe we need to look into every aspect of trauma. The "blow in your face" type and the subtle insidious one so we can as consciously as we eat well, remove toxins and walk, take care of the needs for conscious love and care that have been ignored for so long. This, and not only a pill will bring true recovery in a way that we dont feel separated from our nature any more.

[Boscoejean in reply to HekateMoon]

I was not trying to make people run away from natural treatments - I am all for the treatments - I just wonder about the causes even though I do think toxic chemicals or other things like food poisoning or undetected viral infections seem like more likely causes - maybe with stress already there the causes mentioned are harder to overcome

[HekateMoon in reply to Boscoejean]

Certainly, when stress is overwhelming the response is to freeze and keep going. Until thats no longer possible but my point is, even if we got a drug that stops progression, if this deeper cause is not healed we will keep repeating the cycle and passing it to ous kids. I rather heal the whole of me.

Im not invalidating your very valid point...just adding what i see as going the extra mile. With lots of proper care and sel care

[HekateMoon in reply to HekateMoon]

*Ups when i'm "off" i sure make a lot of typos...😣

[AaronS]

I have heard that 6 weeks of being exposed to an extremely stressful situation eg. Death of a loved one , or other ghastly situations that people can be exposed to, depending on your constitution as a person and the depth of the emotions experienced, can make a person more susceptible to something like PD. If the emotional exposure is to thr depth of triggering the fight or flight response..... which may explain why PD is growing amongst younger people, it'd not just an old farmers disease any more. Many younger people have obviously not had the same life as a 50-60 year old man but they get the same disease??? Emotional stress can play a huge part to the onset of this horrible condition

[kevowpd in reply to AaronS]

You heard this where, exactly?

[AaronS in reply to kevowpd]

From a person somewhere on this earth... where else?

[HekateMoon in reply to AaronS]

😂😊😊😊good answer. We are not all reference books.

[kevowpd in reply to HekateMoon]

Some of us prefer an evidence based discussion.

[HekateMoon in reply to kevowpd]

Good. I like it too. And at the same time i enjoy personal acccounts. Sometimes it happens that very intuitive explanations find a scientific base.

[Gioc in reply to kevowpd]

Some of us we are waiting for yours here:

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[HekateMoon in reply to Gioc]

Whoops. Done, Gioc.

[HekateMoon in reply to AaronS]

The American Academy of Experts in Traumatic Stress defines traumatic stress as: “The emotional, cognitive, behavioral, physiological experience of individuals who are exposed to, or who witness, events that overwhelm their coping and problem-solving abilities."Link to full article:

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