Parkinson's, Fasting, and Ketogenic Diets

[MBAnderson]

youtube.com/watch?v=AaiyJjK...(Not working as expected?)

[reedboat2]

Wow, Mark! Thanks so much for that study. Ketosis as metabolic treatment for PD. Today is day 33 of my keto cleanse. It’s a 16-week program so I’ve got a ways to go. My weight has stabilized at 153 (started at 168). My energy is coming back and I’m feeling better. I’ve introduced a lot more fat to the diet. Also, I’m now doing daily 2+2, that’s food packets to native protein meals, as per the MD’s instructions. I’m getting excited and hopeful about getting results. Wish me luck - JG

[MBAnderson in reply to reedboat2]

John,

As I am paying much closer attention now to the connection between what I am doing and my symptoms, I think it's time for me to go back on Keto diet again, although I don't think I'm ready for food packets.

Keep us posted.

Marc

[JayPwP]

Thanks Mark,

Found this video right below yours

youtu.be/RpMEMX-c7VU(Not working as expected?)

[MBAnderson in reply to JayPwP]

He talks of benfotiamine and I've not understood why that would not be preferable to standard B-1??

[Bolt_Upright in reply to MBAnderson]

Here is a good thread on benfotiamine: healthunlocked.com/cure-par...

[park_bear in reply to JayPwP]

Here is the article that Doctor Berg cites in favor of using riboflavin/vitamin B2:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

It is not a study – it is a theoretical discussion. I did try riboflavin at 100 milligrams daily for a couple of months and did not notice any change.

[park_bear]

Links to the study run by Dr. Matthew Phillips:

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/300...

researchgate.net/profile/Ma...

The control group which was a low-fat diet actually did slightly better on UPDRS part III than the keto group - see image.

UPDRS scores ketogenic diet versus control diet

[MBAnderson in reply to park_bear]

Only on part 3, though? What is the difference between part 2 & part 3?

[park_bear in reply to MBAnderson]

UPDRS scoring system is here:

movementdisorders.org/MDS-F...

Part two is a patient report on motor symptoms, part three is motor symptom examination.

[Hidden]

Mark, you might find this interesting. nunm.edu/2021/06/nunm-study...

And Dr. Mark Matsons work on fasting.

I think I posted it or maybe I just put it in a comment

In the NZ trial were they eating seed oils, dairy, and other highly inflammatory but “keto” foods? When I’ve previously looked in to this trial I could not find the actual diet. Keto is too simplistic and broad. One can be a very unhealthy vegetarian if done wrong. Same obviously applies to keto.

And Dr. Panda is excellent for fasting.

youtu.be/MWngLVQg2Os(Not working as expected?)

[MBAnderson in reply to Hidden]

thank you cc. I just got this in an email today and planned on watching.

[Hidden in reply to MBAnderson]

I think I got the doctors names confused. I will have to refind who it is that did a trial for intermittent fasting. That’s what I meant to send. Oops

Are you familiar with Dr. Kara Fitzergalds trial for diet? Not pd specific. But it reversed epigenetic age.

[MBAnderson in reply to Hidden]

"Keto is too simplistic and broad." Would you elaborate?

[Hidden in reply to MBAnderson]

There is “dirty keto” and then there quality keto. Just getting in to ketosis is not enough if it is via inflammatory foods like seed oils and dairy.

[MBAnderson]

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