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Chronic Glutamate Toxicity in Neurodegenerative Diseases

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It is established that glutamate exitotoxicity contributes to neurodegeneration in PD and other ND diseases.

I am endeavoring to determine what we can do to minimize or stop this.

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Evidence for Glutamate Dysregulation and Excitotoxicity in Different Neurodegenerative Diseases

Excitotoxicity in Acute Diseases of the CNS

As mentioned above, excitotoxicity was initially defined as an acute insult to nerve cells that leads to cell death by excessive activation of iGluRs. Acute excitotoxicity is known to play an important role in specific CNS disorders including cerebral ischemia, TBI, and status epilepticus. However, the mechanisms underlying acute excitotoxicity differ slightly among these different disorders as described below.

During brain ischemia, the initiation of L-glu- (or L-asp-) mediated excitotoxicity occurs within minutes due to the rapid increase in extracellular cerebral L-glu (and L-asp; reviewed in Dirnagl et al., 1999). The sudden loss of the energy supply due to the shut down of blood flow to the brain leads to a breakdown of the neuronal and astroglial membrane potentials as the maintenance of these is energy-dependent. In neurons, the subsequent membrane depolarization leads to vesicular L-glu release. In addition, energy depletion and disruption of ionic homeostasis inhibits EAAT activity in astrocytes and may even induce a reversal in their action thereby leading to non-vesicular L-glu and L-asp release. The release of L-glu/L-asp (Graham et al., 1990) from these different sources leads to excitotoxicity, mostly by over-activation of iGluRs of the NMDA type as shown by the efficacy of NMDA antagonists in the acute phase in animal models of transient cerebral ischemia (Park et al., 1988; Bielenberg and Beck, 1991; Katsuta et al., 1995).

In TBI, the mechanical tissue damage and disruption of the blood-brain barrier is the initiator of acute secondary neurodegeneration, which, in addition to neuroinflammation and oxidative stress, is mediated by L-glu release from intracellular compartments and thus by acute excitotoxicity (reviewed in Freire, 2012). Accordingly, acute administration of the NMDA antagonist MK801 following TBI ameliorates neuronal loss and long-term behavioral abnormalities (Sönmez et al., 2015).

In status epilepticus, ongoing synchronized activity of excitatory neuronal networks with concurrent breakdown of inhibitory mechanisms is the primary source of increased L-glu (and L-asp) release. As the intensity of synchronous activity is dependent on the integration of a nerve cell into a specific neuronal network and the ability of a nerve cell to withstand excessive glutamatergic input depends, among other properties, on the expression pattern of iGluRs, a rather restricted and maturation-dependent degeneration of neuronal populations is induced by prolonged epileptic seizures (Sankar et al., 1998). The relevance of excitotoxicity in status epilepticus is demonstrated by the fact that NMDA antagonists like ketamine reduce neuronal loss (Loss et al., 2012).

Chronic Excitotoxicity during Progressive Long-Term Neurodegeneration

As compared to acute insults to the CNS, in chronic neurodegenerative diseases the situation is much more complex. First, although compromised mitochondrial function has been repeatedly described in several neurodegenerative diseases (reviewed in Johri and Beal, 2012), the resulting impairments in energy supply are not nearly as severe as the energy failure in ischemic stroke. Thus, if excitotoxicity contributes to neurodegeneration, a very different time course of chronic excitotoxicity has to be assumed. In the following paragraphs, we will summarize what is known about the different pathways that might contribute to excitotoxicity in neurodegenerative diseases. We will focus on amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), Alzheimer's disease (AD) and Huntington's disease (HD) as important examples with sufficiently validated animal models.

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Based on my experience, chronic low level exposure to neurotoxic insults results in PD while acute neurotoxic exposures result in ALS. Route of exposure is important too.

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Glutamate is a neuro transmitter (that’s what the article is about)

Your above theory is as if ALS is worse PD. That is not the case. They are similar, related, but biologically distinct and they can coexist.

Anyways, learning about glutamate Excitotoxicity is very relevant and important to our outcome. It is related to GABA. The article explains this well

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Yep, and ALS pathology is glutamate excitotoxicity.

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Any thoughts on how to reduce it? I that why you want mementine? (Too many balls in the air. I may be remembering wrong.)

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Yes - An NMDAR antagonist, memantine, has been reported to prolong survival in ALS.

"Glutamate receptors, in particular of the NMDA type, are overactivated. Such continuous, mild, chronic activation ultimately leads to neuronal damage/death [in AD, it's more acute in ALS]. Impairment of synaptic plasticity (learning [short term memory]) may result not only from neuronal damage per se but may also be a direct consequence of this continuous, non-contingent NMDA receptor activation [caused by glutamate excitotoxicity]. Complete NMDA receptor blockade has also been shown to impair neuronal plasticity, thus, both hypo- and hyperactivity of the glutamatergic system leads to dysfunction."

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/179...

[Glutamate-related excitotoxicity neuroprotection with memantine, an uncompetitive antagonist of NMDA-glutamate receptor, in Alzheimer's disease and vascular dementia]

The glutamate-related excitotoxicity, mainly mediated by NMDA subtype of the glutamate receptors, is a common clue of pathogenesis for neurodegenerative disorders.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/167...

[Excitotoxicity and neurodegeneration in amyotrophic lateral sclerosis] Motor neurons are sensitive to glutamate toxicity via non-NMDA receptors and various agents (eg, antioxidants, glutamate release inhibitors, non-NMDA receptor antagonists) can be neuroprotective. scholar.google.com/scholar?...

[D‐Serine is a key determinant of glutamate toxicity in amyotrophic lateral sclerosis] Excitotoxicity has been implicated in the pathogenesis of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS). More recently, glial involvement has been shown to be essential for ALS‐related motoneuronal death. Here, we identified an N‐methyl‐D‐aspartate (NMDA) receptor co‐agonist, D‐serine (D‐Ser), as a glia‐derived enhancer of glutamate (Glu) toxicity to ALS motoneurons. scholar.google.com/scholar?...

Among several proposed hypotheses on the pathogenesis of ALS, excitotoxicity mediated by ionotropic glutamate (Glu) receptors has been regarded as a principal cause of motoneuronal death (Bruijn et al, 2004; Van Damme et al, 2005).

There are three classes of ionotropic Glu receptors: N-methyl-D-aspartate receptors (NMDARs), α-amino-3-hydroxy-5-methyl-4-isoxazolepropionic acid (AMPA) receptors, and kainate receptors.

The NMDARs have been shown in vitro to be as important as the AMPA receptors for Glu toxicity in neurons (Prehn et al, 1995). A more recent finding shed light on the relevance of the NMDARs in ALS pathogenesis: an NMDAR antagonist, memantine, has been reported to prolong survival in ALS model mice (Wang and Zhang, 2005).

[Cell culture evidence for neuronal degeneration in amyotrophic lateral sclerosis being linked to glutamate AMPA/kainate receptors]

Glutamate, a potent cental-nervous-system toxin, has been proposed as one possible factor in this motoneuron disease. This neurotoxicity was blocked by CNQX, an antagonist to the α-amino-3-hydroxy-5-methyl-4-isoxazole propionic acid (AMPA)/kainate receptor but not by two N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA) antagonists. ALS cerebral spinal fluid contains a specific neurotoxic factor which is AMPA/kainate-like which could have a role in the neuronal degeneration of this disease.

scholar.google.com/scholar?...

This last one just crushed my soul. AMPA receptor

[α-amino-3-hydroxy-5-methyl-4-isoxazolepropionic acid] is the same as the metabolite of glyphosate AMPA. Is NMDA receptor glutamate toxicity a red herring? Is it really the AMPA/kainate receptors involved in glutamate excitotoxicity and ALS? Is the "specific neurotoxic factor which is AMPA/kainate-like" really AMPA, the metabolite of glyphosate?!

I've been researching for years, everything I read said that AMPA (Aminomethylphosphonic acid, a metabolite of glyphosate) isn't the same as the cell AMPA receptor. Yet here it is in a paper by ThermoFisher! Monsanto used an alternative chemical nomenclature to throw people off their trail.

Excuse me while I step away and cry. No wonder SharonCrayn said I was fπ¢ked, um doomed.

AN-666-IC-MS-Polar-Pesticides-Water-AN64945-EN.pdf

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❤️❤️❤️ do not let the word doomed enter your vocabulary and anyone who uses that word is a cruel ignorant 💩I refuse to accept that.

Messaging you

Neurodegeneration is caused in part by glutamate Excitotoxicity. Glutamate Excitotoxicity is caused by glutamate.

(Note that GABA converts to glutamate)

Gluten converts to gliadin which creates glutamate

youtu.be/VhFbgoW9TWo

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Thank you for the video link CC. Cabral has inspired me to man-up and stop whining about giving up gluten….

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GABA and glutamate must be balanced.

Two interesting articles about glutamate:

1st very technical - Recent advances in the modulation of pain metabotrophic glutamate receptors.

mdpi.com/2073-4409/11/16/26...

2nd is a low glutamate diet

epidemicanswers.org/getting...

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