The results of George's labs

[bepo]

It took several tries to get the results of George's mold labs.

[John_morris71]

I am awaiting my mother's OAT results (Organic Acids Test) in a week or so.

[chartist]

bepo,

Did your husband have a kidney transplant? The Mycophenolic acid is up there!

The gliotoxin is up also and that's not good! It looks like you may be dealing with candida albicans and you are probably already well versed with dealing with it. I know there are no human studies for it, but colloidal silver nanoparticles as AgNPs has shown benefit in animal studies and it has antibiofilm qualities which may be required in such a long standing case and it has a good safety profile at dosing that is likely to be useful. There are many supplements and natural treatments that can help, but systemic candida can be tough and it will likely take multiple remedies to do it. ACV is thought to also be helpful as well as caprylic acid from coconut oil as well as coconut oil itself which has the caprylic acid as well as monolaurin which also has anti candida potential. The list is long and you should use at least two agents known to have antibiofilm qualities. Borax or boric acid may also be useful. Borax/boric acid have broad spectrum antifungal qualities and a very good safety profile at dosing that is likely to be useful. Oregano oil is a fairly potent anti candida essential oil. Of course, no sugar during treatment, but xylitol makes a very good substitute that has antifungal qualities. There are many more. You already know he is primed for a herxheimer reaction at the beginning of treatment, so be prepared. The piperine I have been mentioning has antibiofilm activity and has anti candida effects also.

Does he have arthritis too?

Art

[bepo in reply to chartist]

What a great amount of material you have provided! Thank you.

We go to the doctor tomorrow, and I will take a copy of your suggestions. I think he will be open to them.

He does not have arthritis, and he has not had a kidney transplant. I am the one with arthritis and I have a gene for mold, and have worked on keeping us safe. We have a coffee pot that I felt, when the lid was closed, was producing mold. Now, after our morning coffee, I open the lid. When my son's restaurants were closed due to the lockdowns, he gave George a very large bag of blue cheese, maybe several pounds, that George had on his salad every night. That has been since March. It's gone now.

I find it very curious that Dr. Mischley stated all PD patients have mold. I wonder is that a result or a cause?

[chartist in reply to bepo]

The high mycophenolic acid level is then not from a prescription drug, but from fungus exposure and its existence makes it easier for CA to survive and lowers the immune response. When prescribed it suppresses the immune system to help prevent kidney transplant rejection. So yes, it would be important to find out the source of such high exposure.

The gliotoxin is also an immunosuppressant. Its purpose is to protect Aspergillus from George's immune system. Aspergillus (fungus/mold) produces gliotoxin for this purpose of suppressing the immune system.

Art

[LAJ12345]

Just waiting for the results of this test for my husband. Due back any day. It will be interesting to see if his results are similar.

What does your doctor say is the source of these?

[bepo in reply to LAJ12345]

The doctor doesn't even know we added mold to the test. I just thought it was a good idea since we were testing other toxins. We had a moldy situation here several years ago, but I thought it had been mitigated, i.e. removing sheetrock, moldy sole plate, etc. We will probably test the house. It could come from wine. There are tests you can do at home that can be sent into a lab. They can find mold in dust.

[LAJ12345 in reply to bepo]

Thanks I'm interested to see hubby's.

[chartist in reply to bepo]

bepo,

Does your home have central air conditioning? If it does, sometimes the condensate line gets clogged up and will allow the condensate to backup into the the unit itself and cause mold issues. It is a good idea to use a powerful shop vacuum on the discharge port of the condensate line to suck out any debris or contaminated water in the line. A mold killer must then be run through the condensate line to kill any remaining mold in the line and the condensate pan cleaned of any mold buildup.

Art

[bepo in reply to chartist]

Thanks, Art,

We use wood heat and have no air conditioning.

[chartist in reply to bepo]

Is your house a wood floor construction on a raised foundation or is it a concrete slab? Sometimes mold can get started in the crawl space under a raised foundation, so that would need to be tested also.

Art

[bepo in reply to chartist]

Thanks. We have a wood foundation. In the area where we originally had the black mold, there is a raised foundation that has a concrete slab underneath. We will have to check that as well. I think he had such a large quantity of blue cheese that might be the culprit, at least, in part. All pwp have mold issues?

[bepo in reply to chartist]

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/286... hypothesis

[Smittybear7 in reply to bepo]

What are the test? Where can you order them?

[akgirlsrock]

Wow, intetesting my old house had mold, no vapor barrier was in basement, it was creeping up walls. Also the lady that said she could smell Parkinson's, she said her husband had a musty smell. Sounds like mold to me. I guess it's time to do some research into mold in the body. Thank you.

[bepo in reply to akgirlsrock]

The first thing to do is get rid of the source. For some, that means moving and getting rid of any fabrics in clothing or furniture. Only after you have eliminated the source, can you treat mold.

[Godiv in reply to bepo]

It's interesting, bepo: my brother was a mold remediation specialist in his former job (I had no idea until we were talking about mold for some reason). Anyway, like what you're saying: he said you can't wash it away, you can't, if it's on wood, sand it away. You can't kill it unless you remove its "food." Don't bother with Clorox, bleach, or anything like that. Which means you have to go down to the nitty gritty of your home and build it back up. Also, it can't help that we tend to seal ourselves into our homes. If you open windows, at least there's a chance of lessening the concentration (unless it's under the window!).

[Godiv in reply to akgirlsrock]

Wow, this is interesting and inspiring. Now I want to check into it too. It could cause a lot or be one more burden on our poor bodies. I need to find out more.

[bepo in reply to Godiv]

He had the test done along with a test for glyphosate and other toxins through Great Plains Labs. It is expensive , and you have to pay out of pocket.

[Godiv in reply to bepo]

OK thank you. Everything is expensive dang it. I think I’ve had some kind of test that covered glyphosate; I have to check again. I should’ve paid better attention. The test was through a doctor and it was by one of these companies that sells supplements for the issues that they find. Anyway, sorry, I’m meandering. Thank you so much for the information.

[akgirlsrock]

I wouldn't know how to read the labs, do they explain lab test to you or do you have to have a naturopath dr. to help you read labs. Thank you, Maria

[bepo in reply to akgirlsrock]

Whenever the lab results are high, there is a paragraph or two that is included that explains where the source of the imbalance was derived and how to rid the body of the substance.

[Fed1000]

Hi Bepo, who recommended this test to you? It should be more complete than what you submitted. I am thinking of doing it.

[bepo in reply to Fed1000]

There was a second page, but he did not have any of the molds listed on that page.

[bepo in reply to Fed1000]

Our doctor recommended the rest of the test from that lab that included toxic chemicals and glyphosate, (Roundup), because he wanted a base line for zeolite. I added the mold to the test after hearing PD patients have mold.

[LAJ12345]

Hubby’s results have come in but have to wait now for appointment with doctor to explain them. They won’t let me have them to look at myself. Frustrating.

[Smittybear7 in reply to LAJ12345]

Is your doctor a medical doctor or functional doctor? Can you order the test on your own?

[Smittybear7]

Where can you get the test done? I worked in a school building it was closed down for mold appreciate your help. Thank you

[LAJ12345]

Functional doctor. I don’t think you can order test yourself. To be honest it was a bit unclear what to do about it once we got the results anyway. So if you want to save the money assume your results are high and try and eliminate any possible sources. We put a air purifier in the bedroom. Stopped using our wood fire in case wood had spores.it seems lots of foods can be contaminated but it seems impossible to tell which.