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Medical Professionals, Third Leading Cause of Death!

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tarz
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Anyone putting their trust in the so-called MDs ought to think twice, as these medical 'Professionals' kill many hundreds of thousands of peope each year, through their experimental procedures, malpractice and just plain mistakes, many of which they hide from everyone. Currently, they are credited as the third leading cause of deaths in the U. S., but this is only through the errors to which they'll admit.

bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139

cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical...

But in reality, if all things were taken into consideration, perhaps they are already in second, or even first place as the leading 'well-paid' assassins of the people.

ejtcm.com/2012/01/16/927/

npr.org/sections/health-sho....

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park_bear profile image
park_bear

Review of paper here: journals.lww.com/jcraniofac...

says it's an underestimate.

Also it looks like this study only covered hospital related deaths. There is another cause of death and serious injury - bad prescription medications. I wrote about this here:

When Good Doctors Prescribe Bad Medicine:

tinyurl.com/zvgcu79

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tarz in reply topark_bear

Good Points

Hikoi profile image
Hikoi in reply topark_bear

Another viewpoint

medscape.com/viewarticle/91...

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TheLordsWeapon

My opinion ditto

tarz profile image
tarz in reply toTheLordsWeapon

We must stand strong against the deceivers

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ElliotGreen

Yesterday there was a bit of debate on another post. Someone recommended that PwP postpone taking medication. Someone else said that people without medical training who make such recommendations should be kicked out and banned.

I'm personally more afraid of the authoritarian crowd that says "Shut up and take your medicine!"

Not only are they taking an extreme position, but they are working to stifle debate and critical thought.

And this post is exactly why it can be dangerous to place blind faith in doctors.

Around ten years ago, the number of Americans who died annually from adverse drug reactions was 100,000 people. Think about that. And I would expect that the number has only gone up. That more than a million people dead in a decade.

This isn't to say that drugs are categorically bad. It is to say that they are not categorically good.

There's a good pair of books called How Not To Die. In it a doctor describes actions and nutrition that you can follow to avoid being killed or debilitated by 15 causes.

14 of the causes were diseases.

The other risk of death was medical treatment itself.

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ElliotGreen in reply toElliotGreen

Broader context:

1. Sometimes pharmaceutical companies hide evidence of drug risks

2. Sometimes the courts seal records and support this evasion

Court let Merck hide secrets about a popular drug’s risks

reuters.com/investigates/sp...

This is about a baldness drug, not a PD drug, but I give it for broader context about some unscrupulous pharma companies.

More on this:

ahrp.org/judge-shielded-mer...

"Multiple Merck products caused severe harm, including deaths; these include: the arthritis drug Indocin® (1960s); the widely prescribed drug for pregnant women, diethylstilbestrol (DES)® drug that caused women vaginal cancer (1970s); Vioxx®, the painkiller prescribed for arthritis (1999-2004) caused, 140,000 heart attacks and an estimated 30 to 60,000 deaths. Merck paid $4.85 Billion to settle Vioxx lawsuits. Another controversial drug is Fosamax® prescribed for osteoporosis (1990s) which causes osteonecrosis of the jaw and thighbone fractures; Januvia® , linked to pancreatitis, pancreatic cancer, and severe joint pain."

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park_bear in reply toElliotGreen

A large epidemiological study showed that Fosamax actually increased the hip fracture rate. The original small study that got Fosamax approved barely squeaked by with P = .047. I set forth the detail here:

When Good Doctors Prescribe Bad Medicine:

tinyurl.com/zvgcu79

Also:

"A striking feature of modern medicine is the debilitating and lethal consequences of adverse drug reactions (ADRs), which rank as one of the top 10 causes of death and illness in the developed world"

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"With an estimated 2 to 4 million serious injuries each year, drug therapy stands as one of the most significant perils to health resulting from human activity."

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"833,076 adverse drug events reported to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration during 2014. …Although drug adverse effects are estimated to account for 100,000 to 200,000 patient deaths and 1 to 2 million hospitalizations each year"

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Hikoi

Tzars position is that MDs kill us, thousands of us.

The actual research primary purpose was to show that accidental injuries result from faulty systems, not from faulty doctors and nurses.

apsf.org/article/special-ar...

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park_bear in reply toHikoi

I agree it is important that we not demonize doctors. The vast majority are sincerely seeking to be of service. The criticism in the original post would have been better directed at the medical system rather than MDs.

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GymBag in reply topark_bear

Park Bear and Hikoi

just to be sure you saw the quote above

"We must stand strong against the deceivers"

tarz profile image
tarz in reply toGymBag

Yes Gymbag. Its time to stand up for what is right, regardless of the consequences. Are you with us, or against us?

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tarz in reply topark_bear

I must disagree, somewhat, bear. Any medical professional with sufficient intelligence to ace such demanding pre-med courses as organic chemistry, biochemistry, etc. followed by the stiff requirements of medical school, must also necessarily have developed the acumen to recognize the glaring flaws in the system in which they are being trained, particularly in this day and age of the internet, when the outdated requirements of the AMA and FDA are openly challenged by the numerous, obviously superior approaches to healing and health, which have been lobbied against and demonized and labeled as quackery by the moneyed pharmaceutical interests, over the many decades.

In my experience within the health industry, which expands across about 50 years of monitoring and observation, the majority of the MD's seem to be more concerned with the financial aspects of their practice. Yet the growing numbers of those who are truly desirous of helping others, tend to leave much of their medical school training behind, as they seek the better answers which are now obviously to be found in the various holistic healing arts.

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tarz in reply toHikoi

Faulty systems create faulty professionals, who should soon recognize the shortcomings inherent in training. Those who do, and care about healing, tend to get additional training in more holistic approach to healing, in area such as naturopathy, herbology, ayurvedic medical techniques etc. Those merely interested in making money, like all the pre-med students I knew when I was an undergraduate, will continue in their treating-without-healing approach, as a healed patient is a lost cash cow.

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Hikoi in reply totarz

Tzar, you are clearly on a different planet to me.

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GymBag in reply toHikoi

and me also Tarz

I wish you well with your Holistic approach to healing, but I have no use for it, nor do I accept your conspiracy theory.

tarz profile image
tarz in reply toHikoi

May it always be so Hikoi (and GymBag). Fortunately, such men as Dr. Robert Mendelsohn (and a growing number of like-minded individuals who are waking up to reality) are on my planet.

ejtcm.com/2012/01/16/927/

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condor39

If you really believe this nonsense, you should give up all doctors and go back to “natural” medicine, though I should warn you that the life span before modern medicine was about 25 years, and the infant mortality rate was 40%.

The good news is that very few would live long enough to get Parkinson’s.

And this was with clean air, unpoluted water, organic food, and lots of exercise.

Best of luck to you

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tarz in reply tocondor39

I have already been doing as you have suggested, condor, from the time I was a teenager, and I have already passed my 75th birthday, without ever having been hospitalized for any reason (I still have my tonsils and appendix in excellent condition, functioning as important components of my immune system).

Also, I have maintained the same body weight as I had as a high school gymnast and cross-country runner, throughout my life. My secret...eating natural foods and avoiding the evils and designs of the conspiring minds which dominate the pharmaceutical industry and the so-called 'medical schools' which they control.

BTW, it appears to me that the mortality statistics which you have stated are being too generally applied. While they might apply to some cross sections of society, they certainly do not apply to many others. I am a genealogist, and over the past 20 years or so, I have identified thousands of my ancestors who have lived well beyond the 70 year mark.

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condor39

I repeat, Best of luck to you.

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tarz in reply tocondor39

Thanks, Hikoi, but if you are relying on luck (which perhaps is a fundamental requirement for those who rely on establishment medicine), perhaps that is your problem. You cannot rely on luck. Reality requires that you must take responsibility for your own health and well-being, and this requires the acquisition of knowledge and understanding, and then learning to apply them with wisdom and care.

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