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Is it true that the pharmaceutical companies are hurdle in discovery of cure for PD. Some skeptics believe that FDA is helping them in safeguarding their interests and both lay in the same bed.

the Parkinson’s disease market is set to expand to $3.2 billion by 2021, game-changing treatments will not be available for the foreseeable future, according to business intelligence provider GBI Research.

The market for anti-Parkinson drugs is concentrated with a few large players dominating the market. Major players in the market are AbbVie, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis, Zambon Pharmaceuticals and others.

The current work revolves around a 100 year drug Levodopa. Many new levodopa formulations are expected to enter the market by 2021, each designed to improve off-episodes in advanced Parkinson’s disease patients by providing continuous drug administration.

Keeping in view this scenario, the cure does not seem to arrive in our lives

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Blackfeather profile image
Blackfeather

I hate to say it but the Medical Mafia and Big Pharma are mainly interested in disease management over an extended period of time. Consider this, most babies born in western industrialized nations, particularly the U.S. , receive 20 to 25 vaccinations by the age of 2 years. Its a cradle to grave medical treatment system developed to maximize profit. You can throw in Big Ag in the mix here and count on their contribution of GMO and roundup laden poison food to guarantee your diseased existence.

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Bailey_Texas in reply toBlackfeather

Please don't post things like this it does harm and does not do good.

Find something positive to write about you are wasting your life.

MBAnderson profile image
MBAnderson in reply toBailey_Texas

Bailey, I respectfully disagree. I don't believe we should discourage people from expressing what some may consider to be negative, but which may be cathartic or therapeutic to them. I, for one, feel everyone should be totally free to vent and rant and otherwise share their fears and angst as well as the hopes and encouragement.

Farooqji profile image
Farooqji in reply toBailey_Texas

Sorry if you have minded my post , but the reality is that there are some forces who oppose the possible cure. For example the ban on embroinic stem cell research in Bush era pushed away the cure by decades

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MBAnderson in reply toFarooqji

I totally agree, but as you would agree, that's not a conspiracy. When you consider the millions of people who suffered a tormented life and died because of that ban, I find it offensive in the extreme.

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parkie13 in reply toFarooqji

That is absolutely right

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Farooqji in reply toparkie13

that was just an example. I am not covinced but confused about the theory whether it's right or wrong

parkie13 profile image
parkie13 in reply toFarooqji

I was agreeing with you on the embryonic stem cell research that it went by the wayside.

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jimo2017 in reply toBailey_Texas

we need to know the truth , as they say truth hurts

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GymBag in reply toBlackfeather

see my reply below , crap

MBAnderson profile image
MBAnderson

Whether or not a therapy is developed to make a meaningful difference in our lifetime depends, of course, and how old the person is we're talking about.

I would agree that the FDA is too cozy with big Pharma, but it's an unrealistic stretch to consider that a conspiracy. There has been a fair amount of research into a variety of conspiracies which show that conspiracies really don't work if they involve more than a dozen people, much less several hundred or several thousand. The career service employees at the FDA are scientist and is not reality to believe that several hundred of them have given up their integrity and will remain silent partners in a conspiracy so big Pharma can make more money.

Secondly, it is not usually big Pharma that produces the breakthroughs. Many, if not most, of significant drug development is produced by smaller laboratories which, (when they show results, are often then bought out by big Pharma, but most of the smaller laboratories) are in competition with big Pharma, and therefore, it is not in their financial self-interest to be a party to the grand conspiracy. At the heart of free enterprise is financial competition and that's why such grand conspiracies don't happen.

From everything I've read, IMHO, I believe we are 5 to 10 years away from therapies, perhaps drugs, that do more than deal with symptoms, i.e., slow or stop progression or even diminish progression.

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Enidah

Conspiracy theories are enjoyed by some, but certainly not by all of us! I can think of many more positive uses for my brain.

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GymBag

We have done that, been there , discussed it, beat it to death, and rejected it as an old wives tale, and that Medical Mafia and Big Pharma don't exist.

100% of the medical profession (Except Witch Doctors, shaman and a man who wears an aluminum foil hat and sells snake oil) agree that Vaccination is a very good and necessary thing.

There is no world wide big drug company conspiracy to maximize illness longevity and incidence for the company benefit.

Who will develop new medications if the drug companies do not make a profit and people do not invest in them, the government ?

What we have is a continuation of fake news, bad science and gullible people .

WE should start to hear the words "outrage" and " right to voice an opinion" soon but I dont care. It is Bull Shit .

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S70AWD in reply toGymBag

Yes, the drug companies should make a"healthy" profit, but when is enough enough? How much do their CEO's need to be paid, and how much do their major stockholders need in dividends? It's not like all those profits are being reinvested in research. Their profits today are coming on the backs of middle class Americans. And we know, as in the case of the allergy injection pens, not all these tycoons are moral individuals.

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Tradecontrarian in reply toGymBag

Follow the money. We've all heard of the 100 mile per gallon carburetor discovery in the 1970s. GM bought it off the inventor then mothballed it. Do you think that a 3.2 billion dollar parkinson industry would suddenly go away because someone found a cure? No. Look up Royal Rife, and inventor that created a machine that cured all diseases in the 1930s. There was a world meeting of doctors for a celebratory dinner ( Go ahead and look you can find the article and picture online) and then it was discussed that suddenly the entire medical profession would be put out of the money for 4 simple 50 dollar rife treatments. Doctors were paid off to say they had no affiliation with him and Rife lab was destroyed. They made it illegal to use his machines in any hospitals. Before you scream BS, spend an afternoon researching this. Rife, rife machine, banquet to end all diseases,etc. Don't start flaming this before you look into it. A lot of people don't want to live in a world where it's money over people but unfortunately you just very well may have to get hip yo that fact.

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Blackfeather

I left out Big Media which is busy keeping the masses in line and uninformed. Not conspiracy theory but Conspiracy Fact.

MBAnderson profile image
MBAnderson in reply toBlackfeather

Who do you mean by Big Media? For example, I have a digital subscription to the New York Times, which I read from front to back daily and it's clear they are doing everything in their power to keep the masses from being uninformed and controlled.

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S70AWD in reply toMBAnderson

Every newspaper has a subtle agenda in the way they present their stories, and if the NY Times is the only newspaper you read, your thinking is, in fact, being controlled - you just don't know it.

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S70AWD in reply toMBAnderson

I did say, "If."

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GymBag in reply toBlackfeather

Blackfeather if you can not get a copy of the Times , take a look at the National Post newspaper , available anywhere in Canada, award winning information and columnists covering every point of view. Well except yours.

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mleec

Very passionate views, but from all points of view one should take any information with a grain of salt. I must admit I lean towards the cynical side and tend to believe that large pharmaceutical, the media and big business (gmo’s, Monsanto, etc) in general have squashed many opportunities for the average person to make healthy decisions. We have been given too much in the way of faulty information. However, I do believe that the majority of the population wants, and does the right thing, but the power behind greed allows the minority (1%) to keep that control. I have not given up but I am still pissed. Too early to be so political but a vent can be cathartic. 😊 I must be off to educate the open minds of my 7th grade science students to take care of their bodies and minds, and weigh all sides of an argument. Have a wonderful day everyone!

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Raphaekg

C'mon guys. PD is the coming "pandemic." If there were a cure easily at hand, Big Pharma would become incredibly rich selling the cure for whatever price they wanted. I DON'T think a cure is being withheld or not sought. The reality is that this is a multifactorial syndrome, in which the pathophysiology probably involves a hundred different pathways. We need to move toward a "personalized medicine" approach, and there is increasing recognition of this. It will take time. Just like it was silly to look for "a cure for cancer," it's silly to look for "a cure for PD." There are lots of diseases under this big umbrella, even if they partially share a phenotype. This makes it really HARD, There is far from agreement about the core pathophysiological elements (yeah, they know a lot about what's wrong in PD, but not how it came about), so this will take time. I'm not holding my breath. In the interim, I work on slowly the disease through neuroplasticity-building intensive exercise.

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Farooqji

A logical debate on How valid are skeptics’ arguments that pharmaceutical companies aren’t trying to cure deadly diseases because doing so would impact their bottom line?

forbes.com/sites/quora/2016...

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MBAnderson in reply toFarooqji

Excellent article

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asmckay

By its nature big pharma is interested in patentable products for which it can have a monopoly to treat long term conditions which affect the rich (in the US, the insured..)

Products or treatments which are outside these criteria tend to be little researched - why fund research when profit is impossible? There is a danger where research is largely pharma industry funded that prevention / good cheap treatments will be ignored.

Drug treatments for PD are worth considering. The effects (prevention amelioration and "cure") of vitamins, minerals, probiotics, prebiotics, diet are not. No profit for industry. No conspiracy, just economics.

I don't believe there is a conspiracy against the development of PD drugs. I think that there is a real difficulty, and it lies in the nature of the blood brain barrier.

As PD sufferers, carers, and those who simply care, I think we should be looking at ways of publicising those treatments and activities which do work and researching those which might prove useful and are of no interest to the pharma industry because unpatentable. This group is a partial example of what can be done - it can help with info. More could be done, and charities and not for profits have a potential useful role. I am not sure though that charities are always aware of the nature of the problem. If they exist to fund expensive patented products the core problem remains unaddressed.

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Celtis

I think maybe it's not a conscious conspiracy but the fact that we live in a capitalist world where the driving force is profit means that many healing modalities are ignored by the medical profession. It is very difficult to get your doctor or neurologist to look at anything that hasn't gone through the pharmaceutical companies to the FDA.

Things that have promising initial scientific studies and with which many of us have had some success - things like LDN, mannitol, niagen and thiamine, say - are not even a proposition for big pharma because they are in business to make a profit, double blind studies are very expensive, and those ideas simply will never deliver the profit they need.

There are crowd sourcing studies for both mannitol and LDN. Perhaps in the future the kind of proof they need might come but it may take many years. None of us can afford to wait very long.

I do wish I could find a neurologist who was open to anything that hasn't been sold as a pharmaceutical. If there are such they are not easy to find.

I agree with iqbaliqbal we need to get the news out.

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ElliotGreen

The medical and pharmaceutical industry is a big, big system. There can be a number of different things going on at once. I do think that there can be a systemic phenomenon where the perspectives and actions of different actors align, without there necessarily being a big conspiracy.

I live in the UK, and the neurologist I've been assigned by the NHS is very conventional. He does not think outside the box. He is not very interested in engaging in discussion about new, promising treatments. Nor is he interested in talking about promising alternative treatments.

I am following Janice Walton-Hadlock's approach (with the Parkinson's Recovery Project - pdrecovery.org). I believe it works, and I believe people have recovered from Parkinson's disease. I do not anticipate this to be embraced by pharmaceutical industry at any point. I also don't see it being embraced by conventional Neurology in the near term

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JohnPepper

I am convinced that we will never find a cure for any chronic illness as long as the drug companies have such power to control everything.

I have successfully overcome most of my Pd symptoms and have led a normal life for the past 16 years, Pd drug-free.

I am aware that what I have done to get to where I am will not work for everybody. I reckon that about 30% of all Pd patients are capable of doing what I have done. that equates to over 3 million people. Is that not worth following up and spending money on proving its capabilities?

As long as drug companies are allowed to finance medical schools and have a say in their carriculum, we will never get away from this logjam

MBAnderson profile image
MBAnderson

Great discussion. Discussions like this increase our neural plasticity.

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jdroli1070

I am convinced that there is a conspiracy to keep America sick! I believe the cure does exist for many diseases, but there's no money in a cure. Parkinson's disease is just an example. I have had carbon monoxide induced Parkinsonism for 30 years now, and I have seen many promising treatments die in stage two or three of clinical trials: from GDNF to a drug discovered by small Guilford Pharmaceuticals that selectively disabled the part of the immune system that prohibits the human brain from regenerating. All of the potential "cures" have mysteriously been found to be either "ineffective" or "unsafe". It is a conspiracy! It is one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on the public. It's wrong, but it is what it is. Nobody can do anything to stop it. And anyone who has knowledge of a cure will die before it is ever brought to the light!

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