Juicing

[Llgarden]

Has anyone tried juicing for CLL? Just wondering if this would help. Thank you in advance.

[SenateurDupont]

Well, I would not recommend "true juicing" (living only on juice), it can bring sugar peaks, and you can become really hungry. You can loose weight, but this kind of weight loss is easily recoverable. Juicing also get rid of the good fibers in food. Eating an orange will be more sustaining than drinking it's value in juice. And thinking about it, a portion of orange juice is 1/2 a cup. When I drink orange juice I normaly pour a big glass... wich give me 2 or 3 oranges in one sitting. The fact is, I would never eat 3 oranges one after another.

However, you can do your mix of juice, adding what you want, I would consider it as a vitamin supplement. I don't know a lot about food and interaction with CLL, well, to be honnest, I dont have the beleif in super-power food etc. I do know it's quite popular, but each time I tried to look at a special food that could have benefis, I would have to eat a huge amount of it.

Regards.

[Naka]

I did carrot/Granny Smith apple (ChrisbeatCancer) and Kale/lemon/red onion juices daily for the first 3 years and my numbers went normal. Then a year ago I stopped and just in the last year it jumped 3 folds so I'm back to my old routine hoping for a dip with my next meet&greet at the hematologist. 🤞

[AussieNeil Partner Founder Admin in reply to Naka]

What numbers actually changed? Did your nodes or spleen change too?

Incidentally, Chris Wark beat his cancer with surgery and just refused mop up chemotherapy that would have slightly have improved his already good chance of beating his bowel (not blood) cancer.

Neil

[Naka in reply to AussieNeil]

My spleen or nodes are not an issue yet. My WBC changed from 15k to 8k and my ALC from 9k to 4.8. It stayed pretty much there for 3 years while having my daily juices. I felt so comfortable and stopped the juice for 6 months. No juicing for 6 months both jumped WBC 24k ALC 19k. Another 6 months off the juicing and a continue climb to WBC 39k ALC 34k. It's a personal journey and we all try to do what works the best for us. I definitely felt physical and mentally healthier while having those two 10zo each twice daily as my mid morning and mid afternoon snack.

Bless everyone in their journey and wish you all the best on whatever works for you.

[AussieNeil Partner Founder Admin in reply to Naka]

Thank you for sharing more of what your white blood cell counts have been doing. I would be interested to know if they drop back down if you recommence juicing.

With the relatively low lymphocyte counts you have, what's happening with your haemoglobin and platelet counts is arguably more important.

I agree we need to find a diet that agrees with us.

Neil

[MsLockYourPosts Passed Volunteer in reply to Naka]

It is normal for an ALC under 30 to jump around. I suspect that what you were seeing was normal changes. Perhaps when juicing you were also paying more attention to what you were eating in general. While I don’t think that that would change the course of your CLL, it certainly could make a difference in your overall health.

[Naka in reply to MsLockYourPosts]

My diet haven't changed. Went 100% plantbase and still am.

[TimHB]

I've always been heavily into juicing and smoothies with lots of supplements - I competed in triathlons - but I still got CLL. Since starting treatment I've doubled down on all the supplements but it's impossible to say if it has any affect other than the usual benefits of healthy diet and exercise. I'm doing well with my CLL but I think that's from ibrutinib and obinutuzumab - and healthy living.

[shazie]

Juicing is great if your digestive system has difficulty digesting fresh fruits and vegetables. You still get the nutrients without stressing your digestive system.

Gerson therapy recommends juicing but you need to read the whole history behind their reasoning. Most patients brought into their clinics had gone through numerous vigorous chemotherapy regiments and there was nothing left of them to be saved. Juicing was the only way those patients were able to ingest any food. If you are ok just enjoy the fresh fruits and vegetables of the earth. If you live in US, I suggest look into eating more organic. Rules and regulations here are really corrupt.

My opinion only.

[Que-sera-sera]

I hope I don't sound silly, but I get "overwhelmed" by the whole process of juicing; from the selection of vegetables (which I guess need to be organic) and perish so quick!, to washing, peeling, cutting, dealing with juicer, etc, etc.

So, instead I started to go to shops where they do all that for you, and you just walk away with your glass of freshly squeezed juice, but then after a while, I started wondering how well they clean the veggies, how long they sit in the containers with the moisture, the spinash recalls that we hear from time to time, etc., etc. so I ended up talking myself out of doing that too. Sometimes I long for the days when I did not have to worry about any of this stuff but ...oh well.