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Potentially ‘life-saving’ treatment for deadly sepsis is in YOUR medicine cabinet.

Scientists have discovered that some anti-inflammatory drugs have the ability to stop the process of the body attacking its own cells in sepsis.

Good JOB Scientist are interested because lot of hospital's and wards are not and is SHOCKING how dementia alzheimer's patient mostvulnerable have suffered more with the BS pneumonia as excuse for sepsis and there mortality in our hospitals.

Hospital neglect and sepsis is nation scandle THAT thrives with neglect and cuts

thesun.co.uk/living/2948630...

NHS 'underestimates sepsis cases 2016 / 17 by 70 per cent': Silent killer feared to strike 260,000 patients a year in our hospital's

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  • Hi Jeff, I was treated for sepsis some years ago....I have never felt so ill in my life even worse than when I had double pneumonia.

    It's good to know what symptoms to look for, it was my daughter that recognised I was so ill and got help....I couldn't have done it as I went into a kind of shock.

    It's awareness of the condition that's needed , both by patients, carers and staff....and I do think that situation is improving. My symptoms were recognised immediately and I was treated with IV antibiotics.

    About the Sun article, remember that some painkillers are not suitable for all....I can't take aspirin for example.

    Thank you for the reminder of the symptoms....we all do need to be aware of them and get help early. I couldn't fault the treatment I was given .....apart from a blip on discharge, when my oral antibiotics were changed without telling me.

    Take care.

  • Hi,

    Your posts are always thought-provoking and I do like reading them, but I am concerned about the sloppy reporting in your link for the Sun. The flesh-eating disease, or the correct name for the disease - Necrotizing fasciitis, is not the same as sepsis (as the Sun states) but sepsis can develop from getting this very nasty disease, which is a bacterial infection that can enter the body frequently from a small cut or even, unfortunately, through surgery. The final statement of the article is also strange, "(........) NSAIDs could potentially be used to treat other conditions such as rheumatoid arthritis and neuro-degenerative diseases in the future" as NSAIDs are currently the main treatment for rheumatoid arthritis, although not, I think, treatment for neurodegenerative diseases. It is a shame that the reporting in this article is sloppy as it does highlight some interesting developments for research into how anti-inflammatory drugs "suppress enzymes that are linked to aggressive immune responses" and that this could provide different types of treatment for sepsis in the future.

    I do have an interest in sepsis after I had food poisoning in the Dom. Rep. in the beginning of 2015. By the time I returned home I was extremely ill but I was lucky that my GP recognised that I could have sepsis and instructed my husband to take me straight to A & E. It was very quickly discovered that I had e-coli sepsis which had developed from e-coli UTI that almost certainly was caused by the food poisoning. I take regular doses of ibuprofen and it did not stem the disease. If I had not been treated with an unlicenced antibiotic, the only drug that the sepsis was sensitive to, I would not be here now. I am extremely grateful to the very hard working NHS staff who saved me and I am sure that my family would not have been impressed if the GP or doctors at the hospital had treated me with more ibuprofen or even aspirin instead of the life-saving treatment I was given.

    As the link for the Daily Mail states, there is the need for NHS staff to recognise the signs and symptoms of sepsis as there have been very tragic cases of people dying as the illness was not recognised in time However, it must also be accepted that sepsis can overwhelm the system so quickly that a person, particularly the very young and the very old, can die very quickly before treatment is even started.

    I fully support the need to reduce the use of antibiotics and I do not expect treatment with the drugs for minor illnesses, throat infections (it seems most throat infections are viral), coughs, etc. and I get rather peeved when I hear of GPs prescribing antibiotics, just in case! I do, however, suspect that treating sepsis or any other bacterial infection with anti inflammatory drugs is be a long way off although it is exciting to think that it may be possible in the future.

    Thank you for the link and sorry for being so pedantic !!!!!!!!!!.

    Sioban xx

  • Hi again,

    kitter is very right in pointing out the side effects of NSAIDs. They can be very nasty

    xx

  • I think it's terrible how many people die from sepsis and l truly hope that changes very soon. Everyone can be taken by it so it needs to be recognised. Xxxxx

  • Thanks Jeff for some of the latest news on Sepsis, I did not realise what the symptoms were, some more knowledge gained. Agree we should tread with care on treating this from our medicine cabinet, as even asprin and NSAIDS can cause terrible illness in some people. I cannot take aspirin or prolonged NSAIDS due to other illness, so guess theres no hope for me if I get Sepsis :) but appreciate for some these drugs hold a live line to survival.

  • Hi Katie, my symptoms of sepsis were treated with first IV antibiotics and then oral ones....and I am still here to tell the tale.

    It's recognising the symptoms that are important.......I wish I had known them earlier before I reached crisis point and my daughter got help.

    Sadly it's too late for some......awareness is the key ....as Sioban says the condition can deteriorate very quickly.

    It's trying to recognise the difference between a ' normal' infection and an overwhelming one I guess is a problem at an early stage.

  • Hi Knitter, a freind of mine had it last year and they could not find a suitable treatment, she spent over three months in hospital but survived, on the other hand a neighbour died and it was not discovered till post mortem and she was actually attending a clinic at hospital at the time. Very Hit and miss for diagnosis it would seem, but as is obvious it can deterriorate fast. Your own or families intuition has to be the main guide to how ill you are and act quickly. My father-in-law had it in his final days in hospital but I did not realise you can get it outside of hospital, from infections of other kinds.

  • Hi Katie, I was at my late mother's house in West Wales when I became ill.....I have a compromised immune system.

    I think awareness is growing .....the NHS choices website on sepsis is excellent.

    I am so sorry about your friends experience , as Sioban said it can overwhelm quickly . It's trying to differentiate between infection and sepsis I guess. And finding an antibiotic that works....I think they tried three or four on me .

  • It is time it came out into the open, so people are aware. It sounds a bit like Meningitis if you get the septic type, esculates quickly. Take care and enjoy the rest of your day. I'm busy for the rest of the week now till Sunday so hope my health holds out.

  • Hi Jeff, I have just reread your post.

    The first line says ' Potentially ' life saving ' treatment for deadly sepsis is in your medicine cabinet'

    I urge anyone who has the symptoms not to rely on their medicine cabinet but to get professional medical help immediately.

    Know the symptoms, and the reasons why you think you have sepsis...eg low immune system for any reason..

    Sorry to have posted so many replies but it is important.

  • I feel I need to point out that although slating the NHS seems to be a national pastime, to blame it for the prevalence of sepsis or the mortality rate is not fair. If you look at other 1st world countries with a good standard of health care, private or insurance funded, for example, US or France, the incidence and mortality of this dreadful disease is very similar to the UK.

    The UK Sepsis Trust is working to promote awareness of this disease in all people, staff that work within the health service and the general public and let us all hope that they are successful in preventing deaths. Although I may take issue over some of your remarks, you are also raising the awareness of sepsis in this community Thank you.

    Sioban.

  • I stat "Potentially life-saving’ treatment for deadly sepsis is in YOUR medicine cabinet. " BUT doesn't say what it is. WHY?

  • Thank you once again for bringing issues to our attention.

    Regards to you and Dad.

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