A really interesting case study of how the internet, specifically social media can be so damaging to our wellbeing. I would include watch the MSM news, which is all consuming and intense, we have 24hours of this stuff and 99% bad news. youtube.com/watch?v=_u5p6hw...
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What is MSM news ? And if it’s that bad why watch. Really does not make sense
MSM main stream media.
I will stick with BBC or STV. Their bad enough for me 😂
Are health forums such as this forum not considered to be social media?
Bbc , sky etc. packed full of lies.
BBC packed full of lies . .really . . ? do me a favour Buddy! (pun intended).And your evidence to back up your ridiculous claim ?Another wacky conspiracy theorist no doubt. This forum is not the place for such guff.
The media have a lot to answer for during the pandemic. All they are interested in is “ gotcha “ headlines.Manipulating the truth to there own agenda. No I’m no conspiracy theorist.
royalfree.nhs.uk/news-media...
I am a patient at the Royal Free, I heard from the staff first hand how they managed the pandemic.
'Caroline Clarke, RFL group chief executive, said: “The dedication of our staff – and all of those across the NHS – was laid bare in the Hospital special episodes that were broadcast in May. But the story of how the NHS is responding to this pandemic didn’t stop there.
“The commitment of staff, in picking themselves up and going again, cannot be underestimated. The NHS is here and open for business and every single one of my colleagues from all corners of our organisation continues to go to extraordinary lengths to care for those who need us most. The Royal Free London is proud once again to be working with the BBC to share the stories of our staff and our patients during the biggest challenge of our lives.”
I had my amputation in the midst of the pandemic and all the front line staff went above and beyond. Other groups that stood out to me were ambulance staff. Sadly many admin staff and social workers let the side down! ☹️
Well said Milkfairy. 🙏🙏🙏
I'm starting to wonder about your "agenda" . . I'm expecting a shout out to "fake news" next.
Nothing stopping you from raising your expectations and engaging with only quality sources of media.
You read what you chose to buy, or view on-line and hear what you chose to listen to.
My “agenda “ or should that be msm agenda. Asking totally irrelevant questions at important times because of there own agenda. Scaremongering, inciting panic buying and generally frightening certain groups of the public . If that’s what you expect from watching the “ news “ then your a fool.
You just dont get it do you Buddy?So I'm going to close this issue down as it is neither productive or helpful to forum members dealing with active heart issues and of whom come here for support and signposting to other organisations and legitimate sources of medical information.
As an aside, a fool I am not . . LOL how funny.
I can assure you my viewing and indeed listening choices as to "the news" as you refer to it, is both selective and discerning.
Cheerio
Absolutely Buddy, a good example of what i am referring to. 24 hour news was never the best idea, but the "pandemic" story has really bought it home. Every minute of the day the "spiky balls are coming to get you", when these spiky balls are first of all not that size (so a lie) and are actually in your body all the time and are therefor normal.
I gave up MSM in 1998.
I completely agree, I have been stressed, and at times traumatised by the intensity, and ever -presence of the news at the moment, I tried to "escape" and try to find more credible news by reading news beyond UK, on both sides, so to speak, but soon came to conclusion that, yes, it is all sounds like cheap propaganda, all these slogans, clichés, nothing rings true any more. Even when it is true. it sounds like lies, so it is difficult to tell the difference. Not even the pictures can be believed, since they too have been proven to be "re-used" from other times, other places, before the war. And BTW I am talking about the main media, I would not dare to look at social media, gave them up, as sourse of stress, long time ago.
It is really affecting u health. Living with constant stress and anxiety is bad for the heart.
"Even when it's true, it sounds like lies" what does that mean? If you dont like what your seeing/ hearing, theres a simle Soloution . . turn it off, just dont watch it - what are you missing if you dont believe the content is truthful?
I am sure some people watch programs they don't like just so they can criticise!
But that is not the issue here Michael, last year I watched the morning news here for a week and it consisted of the same set of images repeated 6-8 times a day. Scene 1, a guy in intensive care on a ventilator. Scene 2, the huge spiky balls and numbers of of covid dead, Scene 3, dead bodies on trollies, Scene 4, a funeral and the camera panning accross a cemetary. That traumatised me and I still see those images in my sleep and it is not healthy. This is a direct result of 24 hour news, that all channels have to compete with in their news segments.
Well it is true that the virus looks like spiky balls ( I assume) but the way they are shown to us is false because of the gigantuan!! exageration and the huge number of times it is repeated. " Tell a lie big enough and repeat it ofetn enough and it will be believed" (AH) the definition of propaganda which requires an element, often only an iota of truth,
This reply to Wardija Wardija - in case I've sent it in the wrong space.
If you have difficulties in understanding my statement "Even if it is true, it sound like lies" try to use simple logic. When you see leaders telling lies, repeatedly, even when they tell the truth, it is difficult to believe them. Simple,
I gave up after maybe 5 minutes, I have only 2 hours of social media, not wasting any of them on long and boring you tube videos 🤣🤣
Dear DaveSpice
There is also a good side to social media,
ask anyone in Ukraine [ God bless them] at the moment how they are telling the world what is happening in their country.
Its the only real truth that the Russian young are getting at the moment.
Anything to excess is bad for us.
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Even the people in Ukraine have no idea what their corrupt leaders and the west are doing, so you are getting a very simplified version of the "truth". They are just on the sharp end of it. That is why I stopped watching, you are NEVER going to get the facts. In any acse you cannot cahange these things, so the stress is the only result.
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So you didn't watch the video then? The lives that are destroyed by social meadia and on the flipside the people of Ukraine and Russia get to hear the western version of the war started by the west.
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At the moment its the only connection that I have with friends that are there.
Not just social media; I do very little of that but internet news definietly. 2 days ago I glanced at the headlines before I went to bed and didn't sleep at all. They we re just announcing the bombing of the power plant in UKraine and saying if it blew, it would be 10 times worse than Chernobyl. I spent ages checking weather and wind directions. The constant bombardment with instant news which always seems to be made out to be far worse than it is is dreadfully stressful.. In a year it's gone from the horrors of C and misinformation to panic buying toilet rolls and petrol to full scale nuclear war. The media has a lot to answer for.
In order to sleep, you need not to be on the computer before going to bed, news or not!
Cardinal sin Qualipop, never, never, never listen/watch the news headlines before getting your precious sleep 😉😉.I detach from all forms of social media and turn my mobile off an hour before sleeping and it really helps calm a racing mind, especially in these very tragic and disturbing times.
🙏 Glory to Ukraine🙏
So do I. I then spend an hour or more doing a crossword upstairs before I get into bed but the reaction to that stayed with me.
Yes, they are very powerful and disturbing images, unfortunately once seen, they are very hard to dislodge from our minds.If I did a crossword before going to bed, I'd never get to sleep, I'd be awake pondering on that last word, I just couldn't get 😉. Its horses for courses I think.
🙏🙏🙏
It's that final word that sends me to sleep lol
The only thing that keeps me awake at night is phantom pain. Worrying about things you cannot change achieves nothing at all.
Well, I've stopped watching the news and reading online papers at the moment as it is just too depressing. Sometimes, it's frightening and there's nothing I can do about what's happening globally, so I avoid being informed about it.I agree with you that some social media can have a very bad effect on youngsters, especially, who become (by dubious technical design) addicted to such sites as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc., and feel their world is crashing if they don't get enough 'likes' or are trolled with nasty comments. I think this is very sad as social interaction is so important to human psychological well-being and can be equally useful whether it's online or face-to-face, as long as it's assessed with a certain degree of common sense and caution. They've become my two guidelines. If I don't like the look of a site, I won't use it and if I don't like what's being presented in whatever format I won't read or watch it.
Ignorance isn't really bliss, but if it helps me sleep more easily at night, I'll take it.
Hi, I have been having really bad sickly sleep for 6 or so days now, checked my bp through the night and it's constantly high. I have the worst habit of checking in on the news, even being cautious not to be drawn to the scenarios that are happening. Initially I wasn't being affected until 6 days ago and read info that really concerned me. So I have the habit of looking for related info which just bolsters the anxiety. So I completely agree about switching the net off.
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Just a thought, Gary Matthew's death was due to him believing that a spikey ball of a virus causing a pandemic was just a conspiracy, a hoax.
Could you please help me understand the purpose of your post ?
theguardian.com/commentisfr...
You seem to have made a career of twisting people's words, it is so very irritating?
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