Angina and cold remedies

[No-peep]

Hi! Does anyone know what common cold medicine i can take safely with angina. I usually took lemsip, but read it's not advised with heart condition. Glad for the benefit if others experience. Thanks from No-peep

[Milkfairy Heart Star]

Hello,

I make up a mug of hot water add some sliced lemon, a clove and a teaspoon of honey as a drink.

Sometimes I'll add a drop of whiskey.

I take paracetamol.

Check with the pharmacist about which medication you can take.

Ibuprofen is also not advised if you have a heart problem.

I don't take any over the counter medicine.

Caffeine, artificial sweeteners and pseudoephedrine all make my angina worse.

[No-peep in reply to Milkfairy]

Thanks milkfairy for your helpful suggestion and will give the recipe a try. Take care

[Hidden in reply to Milkfairy]

I've never heard of avoiding ibuprofen before. Perhaps you could post a link to the research, I'd like to know more about this? TIA.

[Milkfairy Heart Star in reply to Hidden]

The NICE guidelines are a good place to start.

bnf.nice.org.uk/treatment-s...

It's also important to discuss using a non steroidal anti inflammatory drugs with your Cardiologist or Pharmacist.

[Hidden in reply to Milkfairy]

Thanks, that is useful, although I notice the risk with ibuprofen is only demonstrated at doses of 1.2g per day and higher.

I am surprised that neither my GP nor cardiologist have mentioned at any time to avoid certain medications. It seems like this should be as important as their preaching about taking statins.

[Milkfairy Heart Star in reply to Hidden]

Here's another article you might find helpful

academic.oup.com/ehjcvp/art...

[No-peep in reply to Milkfairy]

Interesting reading. Amazing how many meds are now a no go area. I suffer from osteoporosis and pain from both thorraccic fractures and rotor cuff injury plus osteoarthritis in the back also(good news was healthy for most of my life until back problems caused me to retire at 64). The cardiologist stopped the use od naproxen and advised not to use ibuprofen or paracetamol. I use lidocaine patches instead. So interesting to see meds i would have used for the common cold can be detrimental to angina... Steep learning curve

[RufusScamp in reply to Hidden]

I was advised not to take ibuprofen with my heart meds.

[Hidden]

My GP said only a couple of weeks ago that Ibuprofen is a definite no no with my heart meds. I'm currently suffering from terrible sciatica, that bad that I'm bed bound.

My GP couldn't prescribe what he's previously given me, Naproxen due to my heart meds.

I've been on co-codamol, tramadol and morphine.

[Frenchbulldogsx in reply to Hidden]

Hi I had the same condition, and was advised that I could take Naproxen but only as a short term solution which I did. I tend to get nose bleeding if I take ibuprofen because of my other medication so I don't take it.

[Hidden in reply to Frenchbulldogsx]

I wanted some Naproxen as I know how effective it's been in the past, unfortunately my GP refused to prescribe it for me.

[Bingofox007]

Honey, lemon, hot water and paracetamol, change honey to sugar if you don’t eat honey. If you can treat yourself manuka is the best for colds, tummy upset, bit pricey tho but supermarkets sell it as well as health food shops. Regarding medication I always look on line at Electronic Medicines Compendium (emc). At the product specific characteristics. It has the most information I have ever found for doses,interactions, contra-indications, pharmacodynamics etc.

[No-peep in reply to Bingofox007]

Thanks and will check thr site mentioned. Take care

[Buzzy-Beans]

I suffer from angina and eat an exceptionally healthy diet, our very private lifestyle is also greatly beneficial as, as we seldom go out, our exposure to colds and flu carrying people are all significantly reduced, however on the odd occasions when I do catch a cold, then generally speaking I am able to get rid of it very quickly indeed.

We ensure we eat far more garlic than we normally do, but when it comes close to bed time, I will always have an exceptionally hot, deep and quite lengthy bath. I then put on my warmest pyjamas and a very thick fleece.

I then make a strong milk based drink (Ovaltine, Hot Chocolate or similar) into which I grind down and stir in 2 large crushed aspirins, I also stir in a large slug (at least 2 measures) of scotch.

I also make a very hot water bottle and then swiftly go to bed with the water bottle on my chest.

Yes it is uncomfortable and a sweat profusely, but normally by the morning I awake, feeling quite exhausted, but generally all symptoms of my cold have gone!

This remedy is an old family one which has been working for my family for well over 100 years.

[No-peep in reply to Buzzy-Beans]

Thanks for the info.... I had to visit my aunt in hospital and she had a cold. I was very susceptible due to not mixing socially due to the c virus. Take care

[MaggieSylvie in reply to Buzzy-Beans]

As soon as a cold shows up, go to bed wearing a woolly hat. If you catch it in time it should be gone by morning. I also find Vick's First Defence works well.

[MichaelJH Heart Star]

Besides the Ibuprofen issue another one with cold/flu remedies are decongestants, like phenylephrine hydrochloride which tend to raise blood pressure. Basically it's a hot toddy or Paracetamol but not both as together they hammer the liver.

[monotone]

Hi there,

I was advised by my GP not to take Ibuprofen with my heart meds. I can take paracetamol. Like others have mentioned, I take lemon juice with hot water and honey and a couple of paracetamol when I have a cold. Occasionally, I take a Whiskey Mac in the evening-1 part of whisky and 2 parts of Stone''s Ginger Wine-it warms me up!

[No-peep in reply to monotone]

Sounds like a good idea. I am on the mend... Rest. Hot water bottle.. Hot lemon.. Wee glass of diet sugar free irn bru. Hot bath. Great ideas from this forum. Thanks 🙏 to all of for care and concern❤️

[momander]

Hi,I think it will depend what heart medication you take. Perhaps checking with your GP or pharmacist.

[The_Voice]

In the same boat as you. Every time I get a cold it floors me because I can’t just pop into Boots to get some Day Night Nurse now to deal with the symptoms.

Phenylephrine and Pseudoephedrine, the primary active ingredients in most OTC cold medicines, make you feel better by increasing your blood pressure by constructing your blood vessels (which is why many of us are here in the first place). Ibuprofen is also very bad (advised to not ever take it by the cardiac nurses), so have to take paracetamol for any pain or fever. But my head still feels like it’s going to explode because of the congestion.

[No-peep in reply to The_Voice]

I know it's amazing of just how much you need to be aware of regarding contraindications. Thanks for your input and take care.

[Breesha]

Lemsip is just aspirin, so a blood thinner , Paracetamol, only safe pain killer, Ibuprofen damages kidneys , so should be avoided., you can read all about the effects of Ibuprofen on the web .I was rushed to dialysis, and the first question asked was had I taken Ibuprofen. I had no idea of the dangers of kidney damage with this drug.HOney, lemon and a Paracetamol..best and safest for cold relief. , I

[Schora1]

I always ask my local chemist. They will ask what other medications you are taking and advise.

[Squeaker12]

Hot lemonade with honey in it and 2 paracetamols.