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The crucial importance of the vagus nerve.

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For those wanting to know what is going on in their body I suggest you watch this video, youtube.com/watch?v=f_w82yx...

From a personal point of view it ALL makes perfect sense, so I plan on trying to implement these suggestions and see it any of them help me.

I have been diagnosed with Gastrocardiac Syndrome, which I think is quite common and that is all about the vegus nerve, along with the close proximity of the heart, stomacha and the esophagus.

Let me know what you think.

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meadfoot

Thank you Dave. Having been diagnosed with gastrocardiac syndrome what have you been prescribed for it,

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DaveSpice in reply tomeadfoot

Nothing, GPs have no idea what it is and I haven't seem my cardio for a year now..and I don't want drugs anyway, I am sure they will put me back on PPIs which don't work for me.

So I am going to continue with this guys suggestions. I also have a bad posture, so may find a Chyropractor to straighten me out. If you do the same let's exchange notes.

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Pollypuss

Oh yes I discovered all about that nerve and how near it is to the heart etc. I still get nasty indigestion sometime but I know it isn’t my heart because it doesn’t effect me when I walk fast or exercise. It’s also great to know you can still get chest pains that have no relation to your hear problem for once.

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DaveSpice in reply toPollypuss

Maybe like me you have a hiatal hernia, I have discovered that half of people over 50 have this. Look it up as your symptoms may all be there. There are exercises you can do to "fix" it all on youtube, this woman seems to make sense youtube.com/watch?v=IYeLmKK....

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Just a thought,

Some people experience abdominal and stomach pain when they have a heart attack or angina.

I would suggest that you ensure that your symptoms are not heart related by discussing your symptoms with your GP or Cardiologist.

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DaveSpice in reply toMilkfairy

Yes, done that obviously and with Dr Gupta of York Cardiology, who suggested the gastric endoscopy and have passed all my heart tests.

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toDaveSpice

Good to hear.

However have you excluded non obstructive coronary artery disease too?

Microvascular dysfunction and vasospastic angina are types of NOCAD. Neither of which can be easily identified with conventional heart tests.

Microvascular dysfunction and vasospastic angina are more common in women. Women tend to have more accompanying symptoms of angina such as stomach pain.

I would still suggest that these causes of a person's symptoms are excluded as well before someone assumes the cause of their symptoms are all related to the vagus nerve.

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DaveSpice in reply toMilkfairy

I did mention that this is gastrocardiac syndrome and Dr.Gupta is the best cardiologist on the planet. Confirm by the fact that heart pain follows stomach bloating and disapears with the appropriate exercises. Be cool...

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toDaveSpice

I have actually met Dr Sanjay Gupta, spoken to him at length.

I asked him to update his out of date information on his website......I am still waiting.

All doctors are human beings....

I am glad it's work out for you, however it might not for everyone.

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DaveSpice in reply toMilkfairy

I bet that was fun for him.

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toDaveSpice

Not as much fun as it was for me😂

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DaveSpice in reply toMilkfairy

..I meant, I bet that was a lot of fun for him, someone like you instructing him in that way.🙃

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toDaveSpice

We had a very interesting discussion.

Are you suggesting that expert patients by experience have nothing to offer to the medical profession?

There is a professional expectation of working with patients in a process of mutual respect.

Shared decision making based on research evidence.

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DaveSpice in reply toMilkfairy

Your words were "I asked him to update his out of date information on his website......I am still waiting." That doesn't sound like a discussion, or offering him an opion, it sounds like you were instructing him. Also he is not just the"medical proffession" he is the world expert in his his own field of cardiology and related subjects.

True, the average GP really does need advising, as they are all now big pharma trained and advised and know little or nothing about actual health matters. Dr.Gupta is a different animal altogether and whilst he is open to new information, your demanding a to change his website, that would not go down well.

It is true you seem to have an opion on every single topic on this forum, but that doesn't make you an expert. Experts ask questions first before they offer abvice. Your list of possible illnesses put to me, was based on nothing and to many people that list may cause unnecessay concern.

I too have researched a lot over the years and on the few occasions I offer advice, It is based, either on first hand experience, or usuing a logical thought process, or I say nothing until more facts are established.

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toDaveSpice

Why shoot the messenger when you don't like the message?

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Calmisgood

Thanks Dave,I found it most interesting

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Beekite

Yes that little bugger caused me to black out a few hours after femoral artery angioplasty, hadn’t heard of it before. Apparently quite common for it to happen, not so much fun for hubby who watched me go grey and black out. Not happened since thankfully

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DaveSpice in reply toBeekite

I have a very loving spouse too and when she sees me poorly it breaks her heart.... I try to tell her I am fine, but my face tells a different story. Be well Beekite.

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