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3 hour queue for a burger

lateguitarist
lateguitarist

So, according to the news a popular holiday resort had a 3 hour queue for a burger drive though the other day. 3 hours in 27 degrees for a pile of take away s**t in take away packaging that will probably be blowing in the wind today. Is this not a very sad reflection upon society that needs to be addressed if we are to quell the threat posed by cheap fast rubbish food that is posing such a threat to the nations health? How did we arrive at this? Will the fact we are going to be living with C19 or the next one down the line mean this obsession with fast, poor food has to be addressed? What possesses people to queue for so long for something so bad for them, as in the fact that overweight and obese people are so vulnerable??? Is the answer blowing in the wind?

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So much for fast food, far better and quicker to cook it yourself.

Laziness of some people would rather spend all that time in their cars.

Agree with every word. Well done for posting it.

I might be wrong and it’s just my opinion. But people want cheap food that’s filling and tasty. Fat, sugar and salt are all cheap, tasty and addictive. Fast food - McD, KFC, pizza etc - fits the bill. No shopping, no prepping, no cooking, no washing up, also addictive. People will sit in their cars, engines running for this convenience. Sad but true.

My thoughts exactly whilst caught in a traffic jam whilst on my way to hospital this afternoon for a pre-booked blood test appointment. I thought there must have been an accident but, no, I couldn’t believe my eyes when suddenly noticed that the queue was all turning off into a McDonald’s. Were they perhaps handing out £100 notes with the burgers?! Crazy. No wonder we have an obesity problem.

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star
in reply to Celtic

On the local news they said they imposed £25 order limit to keep the queues moving. That's a lot of burgers!

Celtic
Celtic
in reply to MichaelJH

I should think some of the gas guzzlers in the queues used £25 worth of petrol! Imagine being at the end of such a queue and then being told they had run out!

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star
in reply to Celtic

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I'm sorry but as much as I love exercise & eating healthily, i also love the occasional McDonald's or Pizza, I am actually looking forward to my local McD's opening so I can treat myself, although I most definitely would not queue for more that a few mins to get it.

I confess to feeling the same but about Burger King rather than McDonald's. And like you, will not queue for more than the usual length of time once I can go the 20+miles down to the nearest BK. Absolute madness to queue in the car for over three hours just for take-away!

I guess if you have kids that have been on lockdown for 8 weeks, a Takeaway Burger is worth the wait, I know it would be for 15yo me.

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Stepsteps
Stepsteps
in reply to Gaz_chops

Totally agree

The Liverpool Echo run with an article yesterday bemoaning the fact that McDonald's were at this point not opening a single drive through in Merseyside! As there is one of their drive through outlets about a mile away from where I live I'll be very happy if it never opens ever again! The roadside and the parks have been much cleaner in the absence of Ronald McDonald

My local one is on Merseyside, hope it's not the same one! :-)

I know it’s my local one because Spirit lives in the next village to me & that McDonalds is on the same complex as a very large supermarket near us both. The traffic queues around there were horrendous the night they closed down at the beginning of the lockdown just so everyone could get their last Big Mac. It was horrendous, ambulances we’re struggling to get through to the hospital not very far away.

Jean

Latest McD’s news alert! 👂Buy one burger get 3 free !

Still wouldn’t wait 3 hours ....idiots 🙄

I saw it yesterday in Chelmsford the line came out of McD into the closed recycling centre, round the roundabout and down the road into Chelmsford.

It made me smile that people were willing to sit for a couple of hours to buy a burger.

I will never work people out

I suppose you have to feel sorry for them, there must be something they put in them that drives people to such madness!

Never thought of that good point

Ah yes ‘flavour factories’.

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Yeah, I did sort of know this actually, it's like pringles, they put something in them that stimulates your tongue to want more. I guess it is like the cheap burgers and sausages that people buy without ever giving a thought to what goes in them - my wife has a joke with me about it when we see them on sale but I can't repeat what she says is in them on here:)

Oh don't mention pringles! I can eat them until I feel sick especially the sour cream and chive flavour. I try not to buy them but go for 'healthier option' brands instead. Probably just as bad but sounds better!

Our family joke is it’s tail, hoof and eyelid, cheap rubbish, all minced till it looks the right colour..like turkey twizzlers..yuck. I don’t even buy minced beef anymore, I buy stewing steak and mince it myself. 😋

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star
in reply to heartsonfire

Our local independent will let you choose the meat and mince it in front of you...

Quorn.

Simply "offal" in a bun innit. 🙄

Toe nails hooves testicles eyes. All in there. 🤢

eyelids and bum holes is what my wife says, but i bet a fair amount of testicular material finds it way in.

Always. 😩

Heythrop51
Heythrop51
in reply to sotolol

Sounds more like a recipe for a witch's cauldron! :)

Don't give that cute looking pooch any.

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Too complicated to try. As they will always be right but first to moan when things don’t go to plan.

Keep things simple I say.

Live and let live, I think if they want to do it then fine. McDs also employs a lot of people who I'm sure could do with the money right now.

Remember not everybody got here eating a healthy diet and no I don't eat McDs maybe had one in the last year, maybe. I eat more low carb real food.

One thing I learned in this life is people who have not had health problems live on the basis that it will never happen to them !

What you say is correct but try telling them ?

When my grandchildren were young we sometimes had 'nan burgers'. Too expensive to buy McD etc. Home made burgers and home made rolls so you know what goes into them and with a salad rather than chips! If you feed kids rubbish when they are small they'll become addicted to it. We all resort to rubbish now and again but I mainly prepare and eat real food and am very wary of anything that has more than a few ingredients. I most certainly wouldn't sit in one of those queues! Each to his own I suppose.

Sunnie2day
Sunnie2day
in reply to benjijen

My children hated me while they still lived at home - I did better 'take-away' than the actual take-away. The only time they got to visit McDonald's or Burger King was if we were out and about and someone's blood sugar dropped so low the only real solution was a quick burger.

My husband wasn't happy when I bought a kettle barbecue online the day the lockdown started but once he tasted my home-made flame broiled burgers he was a believer.

And my grown children now have children who hate their mum and dad can do take-away at home better than the actual take-away:) Yes, I've been apologised to!

Ah this brings back memories. Constant moaning from our 2 when we wouldn't but them gallons of coke "like all the others". They have since apologised and thanked us for it!!!

At least they still have their teeth 😋! xxx

Boo_boo1
Boo_boo1
in reply to Sunnie2day

I’d love some of yr bbq recipes 😋

Sunnie2day
Sunnie2day
in reply to Boo_boo1

Assuming you're using a coal grill, really, BBQ at my house is pretty basic - for burgers I mix salt (sparingly as I'm restricted) pepper and a good splash of Worcestershire sauce into at least a pound of sirloin mince (the sirloin makes the difference!) then form patties and throw them on the barbie turning every few minutes till done. The dripping causes the coals to 'flame up' and you get that flame-broiled burger every time. Magic:)

For sauced pork and beef meats (lol, I almost said 'saucy'), slather the Lidl brand BBQ (it comes the closest to what I got used to in the States) on as a marinade overnight, then grill over medium hot coals turning every few minutes as for the burgers but the flames don't throw as high over a medium 'fire' as they do on a hot coal bed.

Chicken is a little different (to avoid food poisoning) - that you marinade overnight then bake in the kitchen oven in a tin foil parcel to near doneness (pink-clear juices when you poke it). Then you slather on more of the BBQ sauce and grill as for the other meats over medium hot coals.

There are other BBQ sauces, the best ones are the Alabama or North Carolina hickory smoke ones but I've noticed the mesquite smoke ones every now and again in the supermarket. The best brands are the 'genuine American' ones (in my opinion) like Bullseye.

And to make things even more fun - sometimes in the supermarket you can find hickory and/or mesquite 'chips' you mix with your coals before starting them.

Oh dear. I'm drooling on the keyboard!

BBQ tips: use a chimney to start your coals successfully without litres of coal starter fluid (you can make your own chimney with a catering size fruit tin, simply cut both ends off - you can buy a purpose made Weber one for around £30 and believe me it's worth the money) and be sure to use a welding glove to handle a hot chimney.

**Go sparingly on the coals - half of what you think you need is plenty to grill a family meal, more if you're grilling for the neighbourhood.

**If you're doing kebabs, be sure to use stainless steel skewers. Trust me.

**Corn on the cob roasts beautifully in tin-foil parcels - slather on the butter before you close the parcel and you won't have to faff about trying to butter a cooked cob.

**Cast iron dutch oven loaded with several tins of baked beans 'doctored up' with some maple syrup+brown sugar, a large dollop of Colman's mustard and at least a full cup of sweet corn kernals (tinned is easiest, if using frozen, boil it five minutes before adding to the beans) cooked for an hour on the kitchen hob then set on the back of the grill 'to finish' - makes a wonderful 'side dish'.

Lol! All that's left is the Alabama potato salad - mine is so ridiculously simple it's a little embarrassing - it involves peeling, dicing, boiling, draining, cooling, then lobbing in mayonnaise, mustard, at least a jar of pickle 'relish' and either diced spring onions or sweet yellow - but not a lot and be sure the onion bits are big (so the fussy can pick them out, and so the onion lovers get a real taste of onion with their 'taters'). Toss, chill in the fridge around two hours, then serve.

Boo_boo1
Boo_boo1
in reply to Sunnie2day

Oh my, Sunnie.... I love them ideas Thankyou. I was getting bbq tips off Lezzers, but all she goes on about is bbqing fish 🤢.

Sunnie2day
Sunnie2day
in reply to Boo_boo1

:) Fish in a foil parcel then a basket to finish is lovely - if you like fish. My husband hasn't been able to get out fishing and I've used everything he caught pre-lockdown. He's over the moon to think he's going to be back on the bank sooner now rather than later.

But. But BBQ to me is beef, chicken, and pork:)

Boo_boo1
Boo_boo1
in reply to Sunnie2day

Exactly thankyou Sunnie. Does your husband fish for salmon ?

Sunnie2day
Sunnie2day
in reply to Boo_boo1

He goes after trout mostly. I keep trying to convince him fresh caught salmon is divine but he's not really keen on salmon in the first place.

Lezzers
Lezzers
in reply to Sunnie2day

How can he not like salmon!! Fresh trout sounds lovely.

Sunnie2day
Sunnie2day
in reply to Lezzers

I was shocked when I finally understood he's 'not keen' (meaning he'd rather eat beans on toast than salmon). Really shocked. Still, the trout is rather nice!

Lezzers
Lezzers
in reply to Boo_boo1

Hey, I do homemade burgers as well! And I do sunnies corn on the cob wrapped in tin foil, but without the butter. And if you wrap potatoes in foil & bury them in the coal they take no time to cook. Mushrooms, peppers, onions on the skewer, yummy, you can't beat cooking fish on the bbq though, that's the bestest.

Boo_boo1
Boo_boo1
in reply to Lezzers

I’ve tried the burying pots in the coals ( in tinfoil) twice now and they’ve come out like cricket balls

Lezzers
Lezzers
in reply to Boo_boo1

Then you're doing it wrong, hand the bbq-ing over to your wife!!

Sunnie2day
Sunnie2day
in reply to Boo_boo1

And now you know why I do potato salad!

Er, you are stabbing those jacket potatoes with an ice pick several times before wrapping them into the foil, right?

Boo_boo1
Boo_boo1
in reply to Sunnie2day

Doh....I forgot to do that 😏.

Lezzers
Lezzers
in reply to Boo_boo1

😂 😂 😂 If you were cooking them in the oven you'd stab them!!

Boo_boo1
Boo_boo1
in reply to Lezzers

Yea but you never told me that I needed to do it for the bbq. Thank goodness for Sunnie that’s all I’ll say

Sunnie2day
Sunnie2day
in reply to Boo_boo1

Oh dear, you're going to get me in trouble with Lezzers if you're not careful!

Boo_boo1
Boo_boo1
in reply to Sunnie2day

🤣

Lezzers
Lezzers
in reply to Boo_boo1

This may be of help!

Unfortunately, many of the people in the queue will be ones who say fresh food us too expensive to buy. Wonder if they've lost any weight will the fast food drive ins have been closed ? Sadly it will never change .

I am almost certain that you have no idea who is in the queue(s), so how can you make such a sweeping statement?

If my local McD's was open, i would queue, if it was reasonably short, I buy fresh food & i've lost weight during lockdown, many of the people could be the same as me!

Not wishing to make a sweeping statement, reasonably short queue but surely not 3 hours ! And I'm sure you wouldn't be one of the customers who dump their rubbish and leftovers for someone else to clear up ?

He's winding you up. No body on here buys them, they just don't.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would queue for that long to buy anything!

Fortunately our closest McDonalds is about 20 miles away. I must admit though that 25years ago whilst living in Germany we would sometimes call in for one at about 4/5am

on our way home! They did taste much better then though.

Kimkat
Kimkat
in reply to Patsy10

Funnily enough I tasted my very first McD in Germany when we , as a family lived there and I have to agree they were much nicer then. Fortunately I’m over them now and prefer to eat more healthily.

Queuing for 3 hrs doesn't qualify it has fast food lol.

Dempo
Dempo
in reply to RoyM

I know, that's what's so mystifying! I can see how a quick burger can be convenient if you have tired, hungry kids at the end of a long day out. But I cannot understand sitting in the car for 3 hours for something that you could rustle up at home in half an hour!

Gaz_chops
Gaz_chops
in reply to Dempo

So you promise the kids a McDonald's treat, everyone piles in the car so "excited" after 8 weeks lockdown, drive to McD's, realise there is a massive queue, can you imagine the kids reaction when you drive past it and go home!?!?!? Yes exactly, you join the queue and wait :-)

Handel
Handel
in reply to RoyM

😋!!

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star

Some poor souls might have just queued two hours for their local tip! 🤣🤣🤣

Same thing innit?

Handel
Handel
in reply to MichaelJH

2 and a half mile queue at our local tip!!!

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star
in reply to Handel

There must have been some serious decluttering in lockdown! Neighbouring authorities have introduced pre-booking with no return same or next day!

Couldn’t agree more with your comments.

It appears that we have followed everything that’s bad about America and now have similar but larger problems due to living in a smaller space.

Boo_boo1
Boo_boo1
in reply to Anthemis

I watched the news the other day on America. 38 million unemployed due to Covid and people queuing for hours and hours for food banks in brand new Mercedes / BMW’s etc.

Wehave maybe 2 pizzas a year; home made not take away. Burgers never. I couldn't even imagine what they are made of. I just don't get it.When American friends post photos of their cooking and baking I now comment with "Heart attack on a plate". Why such gigantic portions?

Rubber Burgers.. yuk! KFC not much better.🤔.each to your own..they are obviously a treat for some or a quick option if really hungry.

I have had the odd Mc flurry if at the seaside.. with the boys when they were younger and into Happy Meals. Now I would need a Full cow and they would still be hungry. Haha 😁✌

Don't care what any of you lot say,my treat every couple of months is a greasy burger with greasy onions and plenty of mustard off the burger van.Mmmmm x

Ah, I just love wind up merchants!

It seems to me that most people posting, actually believe that people eat at McDonald's etc everyday, if you don't, then what is wrong with an 'occasional' treat if it's something you enjoy.

I assume that everyone here has always only eaten super healthy home made food and never bought 'naughty" treats for themselves! If that is the case, then lets face it, it's not a good advert for Healthy Living when we are all on a forum for people with Heart conditions

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Gaz-chops I was just about to write more or less the same post as yours. Lots of holier-than-thou replies to this thread which is somewhat ironic when you consider what this website is all about.

During my rehab classes following my CABGx3 nearly two years ago I mentioned that evening I was going to have a Chinese takeaway. I got some unreal dirty looks from people. They of course were all living on lettuce and water, ran half marathons daily and hadn't had a drop of alcohol since 1946.

I wouldn't cross the road for a MackyD let alone wait three hours for one. I might be tempted to join a queue of three people in the KFC shop on the odd occasion though.

It's not holier than thou. Most people who are on here do not wish to revert back to what may be their previous eating habits, I don't really see why you think there is irony involved?

Handel
Handel
in reply to invictaAlec

😋 xxx

I can't get my head round why people see these things as a "treat"? They often have a big tin of sweets or chocolates at the end of the local park run if it is a "special" one or someone has just done their 200th or something. A lot of these "treats" are not your friend, in fact they may very probably have contributed to your downfall. Spend ages doing couch to 5K, then train for a decent park run time, then bang a load of sugar down you, I don't get it!

So if you really never ever have/had anything that is classed as 'naughty' - sweets, takeaways, alcohol etc etc then i have huge respect for you. If however you have, then I guess you know what I would probably say!

I had a convo with my cardiologist quite a while ago, I was confused post SCA about all the info on diet etc. i'd always had a healthy diet, with the occasional McD's etc. always been into fitness, everything was saying don't eat white rice, pasta etc. eat brown rice etc.

His response was, carry on as you have been, if you want an occasional burger/pizza then have it, his words "me and the kids are having pizza tonight".

I took his advice..........

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I never said anything about Alcohol? in answer to your question, I don't eat sweets, I often have a bit of a very good brand of quality dark chocolate, no palm oil or other crap in it, and I never eat take-away food, most of it is full of salt, fat and crap, we cook everything from fresh. We also have pizza, my wife makes it herself its way better than any you can buy and easy to make. Have you seen what is in an average supermarket or take away pizza? Try looking at the salt/fat/calorie content, and that's a treat??

Yes it is a treat, to millions of people everyday, the fact it isn't to you does not mean it can't be for anyone else!

The fact is, Gaz, that we have a big problem with obesity in this country and things like Pizza's are contributing to it hugely. Far too many people do not see them as treats they see them as a staple, and this will only get worse with the continued expansion of things like "deliverpoo" as I call it. Once this disaster has been sorted we need to start getting people to take more responsibility for the shape they are in and the food they eat, to relieve the burden on the NHS.

lateguitarist do you eat bread, pasta , rice and all that rubbish , while knocking people eating McDs?

Not really sure what you mean by this would you like to expand on it a bit?

You seem to be very critical of their choice of foods, I was just wondering about what your diet was like and do you eat sugary foods like I quoted above.

I eat sourdough bread made by a local bakery, it is neither rubbish or sugary, I think you are referring to some of the cheap mass produced bread (and I understand herein lies some of the problem). I also eat brown rice but don't much like pasta to be honest. By "their choice of foods" did you mean burgers and suchlike? Given the responses to my OP and the plain facts regarding McD's its hard not to be critical isn't it?

You're idea of sugar is different to mine, bread spikes your insulin as does rice, you seem to be under the impression brown rice is healthy but it also turns to glucose in the body spiking insulin and causing all sorts of problems like T2 diabetes which i turn leads to heart problems and other stuff. So don't you go looking down your nose at those queuing at McDs when your own diet ain't that healthy either.

phcuk.org/nice/

As I said earlier "It seems to me that most people posting, actually believe that people eat at McDonald's etc everyday, if you don't, then what is wrong with an 'occasional' treat if it's something you enjoy.".

How often do you actually believe people are eating Pizza etc.

I really don't see the 'food' as the problem, rather the people putting it in their mouths and rarely, if ever exercising.

Work(out) hard, Play(out) moderately.........

Gaz_chops
Gaz_chops
in reply to Gaz_chops

And alcohol is a bigger and worse problem imo

Unless it's a 'treat' once a week or less :-)

No mate, your wrong. I used to eat a very traditional diet, high in saturated fats from meat and dairy produce, like most people my age did. I have also run all my life and also cycled, played squash, kept fit all my life, have been slim as a rake and thought just the same. Yet my LAD was 96% blocked, exercise alone will not prevent it happening again.

As I have said, I do believe people have developed lazy eating habits and are eating crap far too much, just look around you!

No, you're wrong, nothing has changed as far as people putting crap in their mouths.

My nan died when she was 97, rarely if ever ill, all her life she ate Tripe, chips cooked in lard, cakes, biscuits etc etc.

And I know exercise won't do it alone, but better than no exercise....... very much like you i ran, mountain biked, played squash, badminton, weight trained most of my life, I had my SCA at 62........ my dad died at 42 from heart related issue, so it gained me 20 years (along with a reasonable diet).

The biggest factor, so i was told, was the 'hereditary' factor.

Blimey 42 that's young, terrible. Mine also died young, 55. Yes, hereditary it is, but that plaque does not just build up on it's own. Surely our propensity for it to build up means we should do our utmost to ensure we cut out anything that might allow it to? There will always be people who had diets like that but who are not affected.

But, is it not a bit like telling everyone not to cross the road because you know someone who got hit by a bus!

My point('s) being, that yes "obesity" is a huge (pun intended) problem, but why blame takeaways/fast food, most of their intake is bought from supermarkets. And, diets have always been mostly bad, but e.g. my nan's era walked/cycled everywhere = more exercise.

Good discussion mate.

P.s. Think you are near to me, i'm on the Wirral

Think ill call it a day now, as you say good discussion. I am in Derbyshire here.

Thread seems to have livened things up a bit anyway, it was getting a bit quiet!

Sorry got mixed up with posters, meant SpiritoftheFloyd was near me.

And now I fancy a Pizza for tea 😱

Lezzers
Lezzers
in reply to Gaz_chops

Enjoy your pizza

Gaz_chops
Gaz_chops
in reply to Lezzers

Sshh don't tell anyone, i'm having a homemade Bolognese made with <2% Fat Turkey Mince 🥴

Lezzers
Lezzers
in reply to Gaz_chops

😂 😂 Well enjoy that instead

My mother in law lived into her 90's and like gaz_chops nan she ate what she liked never had any health problems until she had a stroke at 90. One of her sons had a stroke at 26. Another son, my husband, had a massive heart attack & cardiac arrest at 42. We talked about this with the cardiologist & he said we don't exercise enough these days, back when my MIL was young people didn't get in the car, they walked.

I personally don't eat fast food but don't see its any of my business if someone else wants to.

Handel
Handel
in reply to Lezzers

My nan cooked everything in lard and lived to the ripe old age of 102. She had an outdoor that she walked to every evening (4miles there, 4 miles back). Her secret to her longevity was home made apricot wine and lard!! Bless her!! xx

Lezzers
Lezzers
in reply to Handel

When she was in her late 80's my MIL was still pushing the wheelchairs of the old ladies (as she called them) to church or the church hall where she was the bingo caller. If she couldn't get out of the house for whatever reason, she would walk up & down the stairs to ensure she got some exercise. Yep, she was also of the era where lard & beef dripping were part of the staple diet & she enjoyed a glass of whisky every night. Until she had her stroke she'd never spent a day in hospital despite having 7 children! 102 is a good old age, Kevin's auntie lived to 101 & still lived in her own home.

If I could try and get some kind of perspective on this.I'm taking a guess that as many of these burger joints Have been shut for months then all of a sudden people want their favourite fatty treat (Aided by their kids pester power I'm sure)

Everything we follow from America makes our country worse....But it does make companies a lot of money......

Oh and keep it up with the guitar-As an ex pro/semi proI can say It's never too late to start but bear in mind"Mastering the guitar is two lifetimes work!"

lateguitarist
lateguitarist
in reply to hf54

Hey thanks! Yeah it sure is a long hard road, as you say it is never too late but I do think that it is probably a bit harder if you are a late starter. I do have the benefit of plenty of time and tons of enthusiasm though!

hf54
hf54
in reply to lateguitarist

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Well no queueing here. We have got a nice lean piece of beef. Will have it with a few potatoes and a good selection of veg. :)

MichaelJH
MichaelJHHeart Star
in reply to Heythrop51

Sounds good...

Helen_BHF
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