New study on vaping

[SpiritoftheFloyd]

A new study by Boston University suggests that vaping may cause the same damage to blood vessels as smoking tobacco and in the long term may leave people who vape open to heart attacks or strokes. The link to the American Heart Association is below:-

newsroom.heart.org/news/e-c...

[gilreid1]

I tried vaping to help me stop smoking. Found it very helpful. I think you need to look at the difference between the US and the UK. In the US the allow the use of many chemical substances and oils that are outlawed in the UK. But anything nicotine related cannot be healthy. But like many other things I would not take notice of anything medical from the USA

[SpiritoftheFloyd in reply to gilreid1]

Umm - This article was published in the Journey of the American Heart Association, one of the largest non profit health charities in the US. Founded in 1924, They have contributed $Billions into research. In 1957 it was their funding that produced the first Implantable Pacemaker. Think of them as the American equivalent of the British Heart Foundation, but with more money.

While they are a lot of quack websites and organisations out there, they ain't one!

[Koassilator in reply to SpiritoftheFloyd]

But She noted longer-term studies are needed to determine if vascular damage from e-cigarettes alone changes over time.

Fake news 😡 lol ?

I tend to side with UK.

Note that their poor quality oil + the homemade Stateside mixes weren't mentioned. 🤔

Toxic. Something in the air. 😜

[Troilus]

This doesn’t surprise me. It took years to find out the harmful effects of tobacco. Inhaling oil does not seem like a good idea to me.

[gilreid1]

I am not knocking their credibility. I am only stating the facts that there are huge differences between USA laws and UK on what goes into the liquid fir vaping I believe the UK has a more stringent approach. I remember the first time I was in USA and went to get a headache pill from a pharmacy. What they gave me knocked me for six for hours what you can get over the counter is scary. You cannot compare like for like. I am not promoting vape as a health option but in the UK it is undoubtedly safer than smoking. And much safer to use here than in the USA

[Sunnie2day]

I have a great respect for the American Heart Foundation and for Boston University as well. But I have to agree with others on this discussion this study is most likely strictly applicable to the US vape industry and users rather than the UK. (sidebar note, when did traditional tobacco use become known as 'combustible' cigarettes in the USA?)

The laws here governing the manufacture of e-liquid and the devices used to deliver the heated liquid are quite strict and well enforced - I'm sorry to say this about the USA but their vape industry, laws and enforcement remind me of the Wild West.

It is a good find, Spirit, and I appreciate the link. I'm taking it as a precautionary tale - we here in the UK who use vape devices need to stay alert to any Big Tobacco efforts to loosen the laws and enforcement.

Full disclosure - I use a vape pen. I smoked 20pd from 1973 through May 2013, switched to the pen 1st June 2013 and after the first month or so of 'missing' smoking a 'real' cigarette, I haven't missed traditional tobacco at all. My e-liquid nicotine strength over the years has gone from 24mg to 8mg and I will be moving down to 0mg in the next few months.

ETA: I use the vape device with my GP and cardiologist both in agreement my use is preferable to traditional tobacco and they both consider me a non-smoker. I had an angiogram and right heart study in November 2019 - 'crystal clear' arteries. My lungs are likewise clear.

[Palpman]

I wonder how the researchers calculated how much build up the e-cig vapers had in their arteries PRIOR to them stopping the combustible cigarettes?

The e-cig group must have had some build up before the study.

Or what am I missing?

[Heythrop51]

From what I have read it seems the nicotine increases both HR and BP and can potentially cause narrowing of the arteries. The other components affecting the respiratory system. Whilst these others may be well controlled by UK manufacturers I suspect many Vaping Shops have some dubious sources!

[MattW26]

You know, guys, I think I would like to see the comparison between vaping with nicotine and without. I have never tried with nicotine as long as I did not know what quantity would suit me. But after finding about nicotine shot calculator at vapeandjuice.co.uk/blogs/va... I tried them as well. Unlike nearly all vape juice sites, this one will find the best option for you based on your preferences. So, if it helps me to release my anxiety this way, I will go on using it.