Told To "Just Die Then" ?
WOW ! Some Support. I Mean I Was Chewed With The Most Hateful Comments I've Ever Seen. That Post Was Taken In A Total Unjustly Fashion. Near Hate !
It Was A Mere Cry Of Frustration With A Few Of "My" Doctors. [ not yours ]
Yes. I PULLED IT !*
There Are Some Really Cruel People Here.....UNREAL....
GONE !
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I asked a question in that thread and got talked down to.
I've seen it before in this group
What has gone on here ? For goodness sake lets disagree without the need to be GONE
I understand we all have different views but if something gets through to you, Grow a Thicker Skin or let it Pass you By ! No need to flounce off !! I have never come across cruel people on this site I can be cutting with some remarks but I am not a cruel person. I am sure whatever prompted a response was not meant to be cruel .
Elvis - Don't be Cruel
I don't know what has been said in the first instance so cannot really get involved.
I am new to this forum but from the remarks that have been made here the impression I get is of a not particularly empathetic membership.
Rather flippant remarks to one who is obviously in need of reassurance and advice.
Shame on you.
Sorry if I have upset you! Some of us have been members for several years and, occasionally have a bit of a banter and a joke - after all laughter is the best medicine even if out heart conditions are not. My "clip" was aimed at Prada47 who I suspect would let me know if he was offended.
Anyway Jalia what is your heart background!
Like it Michael great clip.
When we lived in Mississippi my wife used to take any visitors we had up to Grace Lands in Memphis stopping off in Tupelo on the way. Highway 45 through Tupelo up from Starkville I think my wife spent longer at Grace Lands than Elvis did Down in the Jungle Room lol
Michael one for you youtube.com/watch?v=PgRafRp...
I like this because I know what he is singing about !!Beale Street and WC Handy Park which is just off the Beale. We used to alternate weekends Memphis, New Orleans or drive up to Nashville. One thing a wonky heart can't get rid of is great memories !!
Because I was on West Country routine Dogs Middle and Forenoon never liked Afternoon, First and Morning
Now now. This is an excellent forum now let's all rest up and end on a lighter note. Just think of Brexit for children..........No more Brussels 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love Brussels my best ever ever Veg.
So do I - a much under estimated veg .
Pity about the wind issues🌪
Brussels used to be a Christmas only Veg I remember we only ever had them on Christmas Day back in the 50s LOL
I have a med that gives me wind issues so brussels wouldn't make a difference 
Yes!
Please don’t leave, just ignore them.
2 dimensional conversations in forums (fora?) always open to misconstruction. It's like when you're driving and always think the worst of other drivers. There are always reasons if people are arsey, usually fear or stress.
I didn't read the original post so cannot comment, but this forum is a great help to many worried people, so please please don't let it degenerate into a Twitter/Facebook format where acrimony, foul language and trolls create so much unpleasantness.
Thanks....let's move on
I did not see the original post but I have always found this site very helpful and supportive. When we are feeling down and we don’t want to bother our friends and families it is good to have support from others. It is also brilliant to hear of others’ expertise and experiences. So I would stay here and just ignore the negative.
I understand exactly that some doctor’s advice is very bad and were it not for some prescribed meds I probably would not have had a heart problem in the first place. That said they are doing their best and are well meaning and some of them are excellent.
I belong to four groups within this area and can say this one is the most judgemental with a select few who have bonded together to form a committee of censure and attempt to weed out those that do not comply. I agree that it is not what one says but the way it is said, but none the less a judgemental approach to a heart felt issue is not helpful.
From my photograph, you will see I used to be in the Forces, where there was an acceptance of the differences between people and a naive honesty with one another. A place of safety, of trust and friendship with a sense of humour of legendary quality that some might not understand. It is never meant brutally, it is just the way people are wired. Everyone has baggage, especially here where we are numbed by lifes events and where there should be understanding and not judgement.
Apart from my own health concerns, my wife and I went through a portion of this year, after suffering the loss of two brothers to heart disease and where a routine x-ray led to three months of the most gruelling tests for suspected lung cancer. I used the appropriate forum and received much information which helped immensely. I continued to post and reply here and also met with some very unsympathetic replies. My situation may have altered my perspective although I doubt it however there was no slack, even from so called stars.
I am not looking to make friends here, associates yes, partners in pain and doubt but friends - no. Banter is fine, humour is great but understanding is almost a gift. There have been more than a few moments when I thought about leaving but then again, why should I leave because of some unfeeling comment. I am still here, I will still reply with empathy however some of the sugary sweet replies are somewhat OTT and really quite unusual when the person is not known to a replier.
I am sorry a new poster has left and wonder if the post was only open to the forum or to the public in general, however I can understand how they must have felt. Can you?
I totally agree - well said.
Sorry to hear that you are thinking of leaving - please don't - I missed the original post so can't comment, but there are a lot of helpful people on this forum and I've found it very helpful in understanding what is going on with my health. I've only ever had one patronising/snotty comment (unsure if it was public or private as I'm a bit dim re. the technicalities) - I replied once to them and then didn't bother responding again when the attitude didn't change just as I would do to someone in 'real life'.
This should be a forum where everything can be questions and information shared without anyone becoming unpleasant. I know we will not all agree with all points of view, but if they are not abusive they should not be dismissed out of hand.
Or as they say, just because someone is different or does not comply with ones idea of what is expected, does not make them any less genuine or in need or hurting. and thank you for the support I have received since I first joined last year after my bypass and to those who have replied today.
This must stop, if you don't have anything useful to say leave your keyboard alone, we don't have to hear from you. We are all looking for answers, to save our lives, or to feel or live a little better. That is the sole purpose of this forum, for people already in the state of stress.
As one of the original Heart Stars and a pin-up boy for Heart matters magazine I can only apologise if you feel slighted by some of the replies you received, this is unacceptable on a forum that is designed to help others who have experienced the same as you in the past and can offer words of assistance to help you through your problem. I never read you original post and therefore cannot comment on it or the replies you received, but i can assure you that the admin on this forum take great pride in it and if you had brought it to their attention they would have dealt with it.
To the people that upset you by their remarks may i suggest if you cant say anything helpful to another member then I suggest you say nothing at all!
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If it's any consolation, even though I'm well versed in my own heart condition, and know what (generally) is and isn't good for me, I too have posted on 'alternative' medication, which I know works, but was taken to task by someone, saying how 'sad' it was that I'm not listening to the doctors. Hardly rude or hurtful, but certainly small, closed-minded. There is more than one way to skin a cat; and doctors, by their very nature, can only 'recommend' drugs that have been tested in trials etc (even though many of us are aware of how corrupt big pharma is, and how they tie doctors arms etc). So while many do their level best to help, with the best information they have, sadly the SOURCE of that 'information' is often a corrupted, or less than ideal one.
However, meanwhile I continue to improve my health and I KNOW how many adverse side effects prescription drugs cause, so I wish to avoid them all the time there are credible alternatives.
I don't know if this helps at all? But don't run away in a hissy fit, in frustration. Anything online has keyboard warriors, who if they were face to face, would NOT say what they do when behind a keyboard. Not very brave, but there you go. I'm sure you'll get more out of this forum than just the occasional upset, which would be a net benefit to you.
Good luck!
Shame Triggerpoint has decided to leave but I can sympathise with her.
The 'in jokes' and 'banter' sounds EXTREMELY Cliquey to me and not what is expected when you join this or Any forum - which by it's very name and greek translation, is supposed to be INCLUSIVE - for the people.
Prada47 is absolutely spot on.
Those wishing to be in an exclusive group should do just that, form a members only group - elsewhere, not on this site, and any 'in jokes' should clearly be labeled as such and probably be 'in boxed'!?!
Where are the moderators and administrators when we need them or are they also part of the 'in group' which appears to mainly consist of ex-service people and those who either understand/ appreciate their anecdotes and humour or are too cowardly, amenable or ingratiating to express any dissent.
We are eternally grateful to all those who have given their lives for our protection, and it is therefore important that we exercise the freedoms they've fought for - for the good of all - which means Everyone who reads or engages on this forum.
Our nation is determined to come to terms with the current mental health pandemic, this forum has been informative and supportive but currently Feels a little 'Mean Girls' to me if you catch my drift - now that's Bants!!!!
It has happened to me as well and all I was doing was having a late night conversation with another person andI said nothing wrong !However , most people are very nice and helpful on here.
But it has made me a bit wary of this forum. It's a shame as this is a place where we should be away from criticism and judgement. We all either have heart conditions or have loved ones who do, so we're all in same boat!
Understanding, kindness , compassion and graciousness goes a long way in this world. It's a shame some people can't comprehend that.
I remember that conversation well. We were having a good chat and it blew up didn't it.
Hope you are well great to see your name!
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Do I have a problem with my heart?
Hi, I am new on here. I am 54 years old, female and have just been told that I have an irregular heartbeat. I also have multiple sclerosis
Kirk to Enterprise - I have a communicator
Yippee I have a dental appointment
Is there any way I request a test to see if I have a clogged artery? 
