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Pensions of the poor to be hit hardest.

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Twenty million people will lose out from the introduction of a new flat-rate state pension with the burden falling most heavily on low-paid private sector workers, according to analysis by leading pension experts.

theguardian.com/money/2016/...

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Yes well that's no surprise is it with this Govt? The poorest are always losing out the most. x

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They must spend hours working out how they can screw us next.

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Yes then they rub their grubby paws together and laugh like loons at thinking of the misery they will cause! x

Its everything with the shower .. Coucils cuting back on blue badges attendance allowace being swiped back.

After nicking bus pases .. and what do mp's say nothing AS the been payed of with the pay rises

Its like IIDB the after giving those dieing with asbestos related diseases pension.

Also its part of welfair cap

Anti public anti democratic gov we have

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There is not much left for them to take, is there.

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I reckon there still is. They haven't really started on existing pensioners yet but they will. x

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Agreed ... But can tax us more :o

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This Government just don't give a damn about anyone unless they have lots of money. So wrong on every level. Xxx

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But it is mostly going to clobber the poor sassy, like most if not all of their schemes. It is inhuman. Are they trying to eliminate the poorer people from this world?

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I know Toci and l wouldn't put anything past this lot. Xxx

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Yep then they can save money on tax credits and pensions. x

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Well a lot of poorer folk voted for them. I think they will be sorry. x

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But we are not supposed to live long enough to draw a pension are we? Didn't they see us all off when they cut our benefits, had a company throw most of us off DLA/PIP and crippled the NHS?

Disgusting, money makes money, and the rest of us will soon be forgotten. Xx Sonia xx

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I have been listening to politicians today...but I just wish they would remember it is taxpayers money they are spending...not theirs. They are our representatives.

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Sorry knitter, but I think that should read 'they are SUPPOSED to be our representatives', something they seem to forget once in office, along with all the promises they made during an election. I rarely get involved but this just incensed me. They are doing it little by little and we complain but stoically accept. I feel it is time to man the barricades, not that I could, lol. Surely enough is enough?

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Yes....what do they say about power?

By the way your post is not locked toci...is that OK

I have felt like punching the radio today....but I wonder what will happen in June.

I have also read about the conditions of the workers in Shirebrook in Derbyshire...unregulated ...shocking

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I rarely lock my posts because I only found the site because of an unlocked post, and there is nothing that needs to be kept just amongst us in the subject matter. :)

I also heard about the 'Gulag' of the Shirebrook workers. Disgraceful all around but somehow it continues.

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warwickstag in reply toToci

Shirebrook is a town broken by Thatcher during the miners strike. It's on the Derbys/Notts border and when I was at school there, every village had its own pit. The miners were hard working and proud and fathers and sons often worked in different counties as was the norm. When the Notts miners broke away from the NUM and with government support continued to work, the division amongst families was truly dreadful. When Thatcher finally battered the striking miners into submission with the militia tactics employed by the Sweeney on steroids from the Met and incentivised overtime payments, the fallout was a broken community which has never recovered. Two senior Democratic Union of Mineworkers who were key figures in the scab miner movement have subsequently been arrested and done time for fraud.

There is a documentary on BBC1 tonight on Inside Out at 7:30 which looks at the murky world of Sports Direct owned by Newcastle United multi millionaire owner Mike Ashby which buses in foreign, mainly East European workers on zero hours contracts to work in its distribution depot. A triumph for Thatcherite economics, Its worth a look at the Brave New World of work the Tories aspire to.

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Hi, ws. Living in the Yorkshire coalfields means I am aware of the history. Thanks for the heads up, but I doubt I'll watch tonight as I am under no illusions as to the present state of our country. That woman and her followers have a lot to answer for.

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My late grandmother and mother used to speak of life in the twenties and thirties.....I know we don't have tin baths and candles now ( not yet anyway) ....before the welfare state .

What happened to Aneurin Bevan and Beveridge 's ideas.

I am on my hobby horse now...sorry!

I also see that the mortality rate in the UK increased in 2015 by 5.4% compared to 2014.

I will calm myself down now as breathing going haywire

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That's just how the news makes me feel lately. And then the news in Daz's post about people in A & E told to go home unless they are dying. Bevan must be turning in his grave.

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One last word.....our local MP is excellent, a good listener and campaigner...but he doesn't play party politics , to his own detriment I guess.

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The trickle up gets worse; why do those with the least have to pay for the excesses of those with the most.

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Why indeed.

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Was expected the poorest would loose as usual, don't know how some will cope on this new pension idea it is too late for many to change their arrangements for retirement. Nothing changes if you are a low paid worker you will be a low paid pensioner too.

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Another issue here is the pension rises are only 2.5% but for instance our rates have gone up by 30% and rebates have been reduced to meet Government target cuts, this is just one area where we are expected to accept cuts and pay more for the privilege. So even those on comfortable means now will not survive the future cuts or rises.

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Good point. Not just hitting us harder but also hitting more of us.

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I have been trying to find up to date information on MP s meal subsidies.

I know the Lords get a political Attendance Allowance of between £150 to £300 a sitting if they do not recieve a salary.

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I know "taxpayers’ subsidy for the bars and restaurants in the Houses of Commons has risen to £5.8m a year, despite promises by parliamentary official to cut public funding for politicians’ meals and drinks."

telegraph.co.uk/news/politi...

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mskpjb

The crux of the matter is that it`s a case of "I`m alright Jack" They really don`t know or care what it`s like to be part of the society they`ve created. They`ll be able to afford care for their elderly relatives, nannies so that their wives can continue with their wellpaid careers ( sometimes as secretary to them) and have extra lucrative jobs.

Some start out with high moral ideas but become corrupted once they grow used to money and status. Up the revolution ! Sheila xx

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Toci in reply tomskpjb

Spot on! They have no empathy, no care or concern, for anyone but themselves, their families and their friends.

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I hear on the radio unemployment has gone down is this because all the people who were claiming benefit have been taken off ?????????

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