Arrhythmias and Etopics

[helpmabob]

Hi

I have been getting bothered with more arrhythmia /etopic beats over the past 6 months or so. I have tried to explain the symptoms to my cardiologist and he is unconcerned about these. However when I read other people’s comments on the forum about etopics etc they have specific names like super ventricular etc. How do I find out which arrhythmia/etopics etc I have. Can a Kardia diagnosis these or is a more specialized test required.

Thanks

[Crimson2020]

The Kardia Mobile single lead has the following advanced determinations:

Atrial Fibrillation

Bradycardia

Tachycardia

Normal Sinus Rhythm

Sinus Rhythm with Premature Ventricular Contractions (PVCs)

Sinus Rhythm with Supraventricular Ectopy (SVE)

Sinus Rhythm with Wide QRS

Unfortunately these advanced features are only available with a monthly subscription of £9.99 to Alivecor, the supplier of Kardia Mobile devices.

Each of these determnations accompany the 30 second ecg graphs.

See further details on the link below.

alivecor.co.uk/blog/article...

[helpmabob in reply to Crimson2020]

Thanks I’ll check out the link

[BobD Volunteer]

A lot of the time I'm sure people are just as confused and often use incorrect terminology. To be quiet clear, ectopic merely means out of place. You can have atrial (top chamber) or ventricular) main pumping chamber ectopic beats and yes a lot can be defined by an ECG usually seem as an inverted T wave.. Think of it this way. If the atrium misses a beat, the ventricle has less blood to pump so will have a softer thump. The next "full" one will therefor feel heavier. Supra ventricular just means that the signals are coming from above the ventricle.

[helpmabob in reply to BobD]

Thanks Bob that’s helpful

[ForensicFairy]

As others have said, a Kardia will show them but may not always accurately report them, and you have to pay to have it say that’s what it is. You can learn to recognise them in an ecg but it takes practice and learning, but it means that you can at a guess pick them out and show them to your doctor.

You can also catch them on an Apple Watch or won’t report them but you can do an ecg and see them for yourself. You can also then show the ecg reading to your doctor. Both the Kardia and Apple Watch apps will create a pdf of your ecg.

The easiest thing is to ask for a holter monitor or heart bug. Then you will have a minimum 24 hours of monitoring in a report form.

However, ectopic beats are mostly benign so even if you have them, your doctor still may tell you not to worry about them. I can have over 10,000 a day but my doctors aren’t too concerned with them. They’re more concerned with other arrhythmias and my overall cardiac conduction.

[helpmabob in reply to ForensicFairy]

Thanks that information is helpful

[AfibSufferer]

My single lead Kardia mobile gives diagnoses without having to pay a subscription. I've had it diagnose episodes of AF and PVCs.

[Gertsen in reply to AfibSufferer]

So does mine

[helpmabob in reply to Gertsen]

I’ve just replied to Afibsufferer on the same topic. Trying to find out if the Kardia diagnosed these episodes on its own. The difficulty is always catching the episode

[helpmabob in reply to AfibSufferer]

That’s interesting can you read the information on the Kardia yourself or do you send it to your cardiologist

[AfibSufferer in reply to helpmabob]

It comes up on screen a few seconds after taking a trace.

[helpmabob in reply to AfibSufferer]

Ok thanks

[Qualipop]

If they happen fairly regularly and ECG should show them and teh doctor should be able to see where they come from and whether they are of concern. Unfortunately if they only happen now and again it can be very difficult to catch them on an ECG. It was a year before anyone could see mine after i had a stress test. Nothing happened during teh test but they left the electrodes attached when I finished and thankfully I had a bout of ectopics and they assured me they were harmless. If they happen quite often then a 24 hour holter monitor is the best bet

[helpmabob in reply to Qualipop]

Thanks for your reply it was helpful

[Margareta3]

Wellue 24-Hour ECG Recorder with AI analysis will do it. No monthly subscription. See their web page.

[helpmabob in reply to Margareta3]

Thanks

[marcyh]

I thought ectopics were always a precursor to AF. Not that they always result in AF, but they always come first. That's according to my EP. So I'm always concerned about my episodes and relieved when they resolve.

[Gwelos]

if you look up Dr Sanjay Gupta on Facebook he has a lot of videos on A Fib. He is a cardiologist and an EP. I’d post the link but I don’t know how to do it. Best of luck.

[helpmabob in reply to Gwelos]

I’ll check it out thanks